Do you think Android 16 was revived?

Sailor Haumea · Post by **Sailor Haumea** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:11 pm

I would say yes, as Android 8 was also revived after Buu destroyed the Earth.

Besides, 16 very much seemed to have a soul, albeit an artificial one.

So what do you think? Was 16 revived with everyone else after the Cell Games?

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:15 pm

#8 was most likely used to be human similar to how #17 and #18 which is why he was brought back. I doubt #16 was brought back seeing that we would have know about it by now. Not to mention it seems likely that being that are 100% robotic have no soul.

Sailor Haumea · Post by **Sailor Haumea** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:18 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:#8 was most likely used to be human similar to how #17 and #18 which is why he was brought back. I doubt #16 was brought back seeing that we would have know about it by now. Not to mention it seems likely that being that are 100% robotic have no soul.

By that logic, Arale doesn't have a soul, and thus wouldn't have been revived along with Buu's other victims.

Arale and 16 would be permanently gone.

Sailor Haumea · Post by **Sailor Haumea** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:24 pm

Also, wasn't it explicitly confirmed by Toriyama that Androids 1-12 were completely artificial?

Of those, we've seen Android 8 and Android 9 (who's basically a taller Commander Red).

So we have confirmation Android 8 was totally artificial, just like 16, so if Android 8 was revived by Porunga, Android 16 should've been revived with everyone else by Shenron.

Makaioshin · Post by **Makaioshin** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:42 pm

I don't see any reason to think that he was revived since he presumably doesn't have a soul. Of course, in GT even #19 was in Hell so maybe you are right about them somehow having souls.

Sailor Haumea wrote: By that logic, Arale doesn't have a soul, and thus wouldn't have been revived along with Buu's other victims.

Arale and 16 would be permanently gone.

When Earth was restored in the Boo arc all the buildings and such were restored in addition to everyone on Earth being revived. Plus we saw Arale in Super.

Sailor Haumea · Post by **Sailor Haumea** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 4:44 pm

Makaioshin wrote:Of course, in GT even #19 was in Hell so maybe you are right about them somehow having souls.

That's my point. The fact #19 was in Hell suggests fully mechanical androids have souls. Thus, Android 16 should have been revived.

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:27 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:Also, wasn't it explicitly confirmed by Toriyama that Androids 1-12 were completely artificial?

That's just Toriyama being senile. It was shown in the manga #8 was human-based.

Anyways, I don't think #16 was ever revived. He didn't have a soul and the wish during the Kid Boo battle was specifically to reverse the damage Kid Boo had done to Earth... so Arale may be revived but not #16 since he's been gone for quite some time.

Wizard Sesame · Post by **Wizard Sesame** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:47 pm

I'm pretty sure she means when Shenron revived Cell's victims. If he has a soul and is considered a victim, I'd say, yeah, he was brought back. He was aware enough to know that Goku had become too powerful for him to fight in the first place, so I'd see no reason why he wouldn't be just hanging out in the wild with animals and never show his face ever again after being revived. I personally don't think he was revived, but if you want it to be your head canon, I don't see why you can't have it that he was.

Sailor Haumea · Post by **Sailor Haumea** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:50 pm

Wizard Sesame wrote:I'm pretty sure he means

I'm a she.

Wizard Sesame · Post by **Wizard Sesame** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:53 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:I'm a she.

Fixed and I apologize.

Sailor Haumea · Post by **Sailor Haumea** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 5:54 pm

Wizard Sesame wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:I'm a she.
Fixed and I apologize.

It's no problem.

floofychan333 · Post by **floofychan333** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:26 pm

Sailor Haumea wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:#8 was most likely used to be human similar to how #17 and #18 which is why he was brought back. I doubt #16 was brought back seeing that we would have know about it by now. Not to mention it seems likely that being that are 100% robotic have no soul.
By that logic, Arale doesn't have a soul, and thus wouldn't have been revived along with Buu's other victims.

Arale and 16 would be permanently gone.

Arale made a short appearance in Super though. Also, you're right for some reason about 16 because I guess they wanted to permanently kill off a good guy so he wouldn't be overpowered by the Saiyajins like Kuririn and crew.

Sailor Haumea · Post by **Sailor Haumea** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:30 pm

floofychan333 wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:#8 was most likely used to be human similar to how #17 and #18 which is why he was brought back. I doubt #16 was brought back seeing that we would have know about it by now. Not to mention it seems likely that being that are 100% robotic have no soul.
By that logic, Arale doesn't have a soul, and thus wouldn't have been revived along with Buu's other victims.

Arale and 16 would be permanently gone.
Arale made a short appearance in Super though. Also, you're right for some reason about 16 because I guess they wanted to permanently kill off a good guy so he wouldn't be overpowered by the Saiyajins like Kuririn and crew.

It doesn't really make sense that of all the characters who die, he stays dead.

My headcanon has Shenron revive Orlen and Namole (both of whom were killed by Frieza) and Porunga brings them to Earth, while Shenron revives Android 16 along with the other people who died since 19 and 20 appeared.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:35 pm

They could brought #16 in Trunks timeline as a alley for Future Trunks. He could help lead the Earth's Resistance along with Mai, Future Bluma and Future Yajirobe.

Sailor Haumea · Post by **Sailor Haumea** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:37 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:They could brought #16 in Trunks timeline as a alley for Future Trunks. He could help lead the Earth's Resistance along with Mai, Future Bluma and Future Yajirobe.

During that time of peace for several years, why the fuck didn't Bulma build a ship so they could go to New Namek? Couldn't they ask King Kai via telepathy where it is?

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Sat Oct 22, 2016 7:41 pm

She has no way to contact King Kai and also Goku and the others have been dead for a long time. Goku and the others probably don't want to be wish back.

DBZAOTA482 · Post by **DBZAOTA482** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:19 am

Sailor Haumea wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:They could brought #16 in Trunks timeline as a alley for Future Trunks. He could help lead the Earth's Resistance along with Mai, Future Bluma and Future Yajirobe.
During that time of peace for several years, why the fuck didn't Bulma build a ship so they could go to New Namek? Couldn't they ask King Kai via telepathy where it is?

Bulma couldn't possibly built a spaceship to reach Namek (let alone New Namek) even in the main timeline and King Kai knew jackshit about what is going on plus he can barely contact and can't teleport to New Namek.

Sailor Haumea · Post by **Sailor Haumea** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:21 am

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Sailor Haumea wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:They could brought #16 in Trunks timeline as a alley for Future Trunks. He could help lead the Earth's Resistance along with Mai, Future Bluma and Future Yajirobe.
During that time of peace for several years, why the fuck didn't Bulma build a ship so they could go to New Namek? Couldn't they ask King Kai via telepathy where it is?
Bulma couldn't possibly built a spaceship to reach Namek (let alone New Namek) even in the main timeline and King Kai knew jackshit about what is going on plus he can barely contact and can't teleport to New Namek.

Couldn't he try to get ahold of Supreme Kai? Surely he and Kibito could help.

Hellspawn28 · Post by **Hellspawn28** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:36 am

Kaioshin in Trunks timeline is dead. Even before they are killed, Trunks probably didn't want them to be wish back since he can save the world by himself now. Also Goku and the others probably never met Kaioshin in Future Trunks timeline seeing that they are dead and can't help against Babidi. Also in the new episode of Super mention that all of the Dragon Balls are gone in Future Trunks timeline. New Namek is likely destroyed.

Sailor Haumea · Post by **Sailor Haumea** » Sun Oct 23, 2016 3:39 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:Kaioshin in Trunks timeline is dead. Even before they are killed, Trunks probably didn't want them to be wish back since he can save the world by himself now. Also Goku and the others probably never met Kaioshin in Future Trunks timeline seeing that they are dead and can't help against Babidi. Also in the new episode of Super mention that all of the Dragon Balls are gone in Future Trunks timeline. New Namek is likely destroyed.

He's dead NOW.

I meant, why not do this before Buu appeared?

Kanzenshuu

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