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ryou766 wrote:
You not having any issue with it doesn't speak for others.
Are you trying to start something? I never said that it did.
You need to calm down.
You are aware that saying this basically means you forfeit the argument, right? I'm not going to get deeply into this, and I'm not going to take sides. This is objective advice. Pre-emptively telling someone to calm down is actually very telling of what you really have to add to the discussion.
Nothing, in case you were wondering.
In short: If all you have is "calm down", don't say anything.
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Soppa Saia People wrote:
The Boo saga gets a bit iffy (H-word, Vegrot) but other then that, it's fine.
Don't forget the use of lasers in place of guns.
I've checked some of the Boo Arc pages, and the change is stupid, but so what? It's miniscule to the point of irrelevance.
Same could be said for dub tranlslations though. I could say so what if Piccolo says "Special Beam Canon". But that doesn't stop a lot of people having a problem with it. Some people might not like things being changed from the original you might think it is irrelevant but others might not.
ryou766 wrote:
Don't forget the use of lasers in place of guns.
I've checked some of the Boo Arc pages, and the change is stupid, but so what? It's miniscule to the point of irrelevance.
Same could be said for dub tranlslations though. I could say so what if Piccolo says "Special Beam Canon". But that doesn't stop a lot of people having a problem with it. Some people might not like things being changed from the original you might think it is irrelevant but others might not.
I think changing Makankosospaghetti to Special Beam Canon is a bit more significant because it actually changes the meaning, with "Ma" apparently meaning demon and the rest being some nonsense about a piercing drill of light. It explains very specifically what the technique is. "Special Beam Canon" also describes the technique, but it's much more vague, and it doesn't mention demon. I understand censoring was an issue, but they could have replaced Ma with "Evil" in that case. All-in-all, Special Beam Canon just fails to convey the author's intent.
Replacing guns with lasers though? It's subjective, but I think they both get the same point across... the only point of contention I can think of would be if those two lunatics who shot Mr. Satan used lasers instead of guns, as that might not get the same gritty, realistic brutality and evil across.
ryou766 wrote:
Don't forget the use of lasers in place of guns.
I've checked some of the Boo Arc pages, and the change is stupid, but so what? It's miniscule to the point of irrelevance.
Same could be said for dub tranlslations though. I could say so what if Piccolo says "Special Beam Canon". But that doesn't stop a lot of people having a problem with it. Some people might not like things being changed from the original you might think it is irrelevant but others might not.
I don't care about those, either.
Hyena_Yamcha wrote:The full color Dragon Ball manga is the best way for me to experience the series
I don't think it's the best, something about the palette of the later stuff (23rd Budokai and forward) really turns me off.
Also, they're oddly reluctant to use reds in the backgrounds unless they absolutely have to.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Are you trying to start something? I never said that it did.
You need to calm down.
You are aware that saying this basically means you forfeit the argument, right? I'm not going to get deeply into this, and I'm not going to take sides. This is objective advice. Pre-emptively telling someone to calm down is actually very telling of what you really have to add to the discussion.
Nothing, in case you were wondering.
In short: If all you have is "calm down", don't say anything.
Doctor. wrote:The driving episode isn't that entertaining.
*hides*
It was fun at first but the second try was really boring.
An angry Final Fantasy fan wrote: And after all the outrage, when I'm ready, I'll go out on to GameStop and buy a Persona 5 copy. And when my mother finds me investing my precious time trying to bond with this hot anime girl, I'll look straight into her eyes and say "but have you looked at the menu screen? have you actually seen the menu screen? In that very moment, she knows. She fucking knows. As she handles me the nugget pieces she previously cooked for me, she leaves my room with these words: "Persona 5 is the true savior of the JRPG".
VegettoEX wrote:
In a blunt nutshell, no-one wants to read bullshit. Don't post bullshit. Be a cool person that posts cool things that other people would actually want to read. Don't be Zamasu from episode 63 talking to himself.
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:Like Sean Schemmel's King Kai a lot.
Ditto.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
Lord Beerus wrote:Like Sean Schemmel's King Kai a lot.
Ditto.
Hooray, I'm not alone.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I think characters should just stop appearing when their relevance is over, similar to Launch or Android 17. Even Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu were gone for the majority of the Buu saga.
Come to think of it both Oolong and Puar should have stopped appearing by the end of the Freeza saga at the latest. I know with Yamcha around its hard to ignore Puar, but whatever.
Lord Beerus wrote:Like Sean Schemmel's King Kai a lot.
I third this.
I'd have to say The Strongest Fusion is Mr. Kageyama's best song. The vocals (and music, of course) are so much more energetic than Cha-La. And I've also been starting to really like Fusion in general, so that's a thing too.
Doctor. wrote:The driving episode isn't that entertaining.
*hides*
I never found it that funny, either.
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Jinzoningen MULE wrote:From this, we can gather that the driving episode is universally overrated, and that its actual worth has been inflated somehow.
You can't really gather that from 5 people agreeing. Many people, myself included, still enjoy it.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:From this, we can gather that the driving episode is universally overrated, and that its actual worth has been inflated somehow.
You can't really gather that from 5 people agreeing. Many people, myself included, still enjoy it.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:From this, we can gather that the driving episode is universally overrated, and that its actual worth has been inflated somehow.
You can't really gather that from 5 people agreeing. Many people, myself included, still enjoy it.
The only really bad filler is "Fake Namek," some of the extra Goku/Freeza fight padding in the anime on Namek, and maybe some one-off eps I'm forgetting about. I didn't even mind the Garlic Jr. saga much.
I enjoy all the Saiyan Saga filler, even ones like Princess Snake and the others people tend not to like. Most of the Cell and Buu saga filler was so good I didn't even know it was filler. The extra Great Saiyaman eps were good too.