Can Beerus "Hakai" Whis and Champa ?

[DSB]

Is it even possible ???

I know Champa can "Hakai" too , as he is Hakaishin as well , but can a Hakaishin do it to another Hakaishin ?

[Souheil21]

i suspect he can't do it to someone who is equal/stronger to him (AKA whis), plus it was probably whis who taught him that. as for champa,it is stated in the Super Anime( I'm not sure if in the manga too since i never read it) that Beerus is stronger then champa, so he could probably do it to him.

[Nejishiki]

As things currently stand, probably not. Whis specifically keeps Beerus in line. It would be odd if he couldn't account for that. Otherwise, Hakaishin rebellion would be an eventuality across the universes. Beerus has exchanged blows with Champa in the past. I don't think he would attempt that technique on his brother. But if he did, their closeness in strength would likely prevent it, I think.

[DSB]

i suspect he can't do it to someone who is equal/stronger to him (AKA whis), plus it was probably whis who taught him that. as for champa,it is stated in the Super Anime( I'm not sure if in the manga too since i never read it) that Beerus is stronger then champa, so he could probably do it to him.

I dont agree that Whis TAUGHT beerus that . Maybe Hakaishins have some innate abilities [Extreme Strength , Powers like Hakai and all] . Maybe they learn everything else

[kinisking]

As things currently stand, probably not. Whis specifically keeps Beerus in line. It would be odd if he couldn't account for that. Otherwise, Hakaishin rebellion would be an eventuality across the universes. Beerus has exchanged blows with Champa in the past. I don't think he would attempt that technique on his brother. But if he did, their closeness in strength would likely prevent it, I think.

You're probably right but they'res one other possibility. Maybe he can only destroy things that originate from u7? That would make Whis, angels, and other God of destructions immune.

[DBZ Macky]

The "Hakai" attack is probably just some incredibly showy technique that either Beerus created, or one that all Hakaishin know. I make it out to be something like Fusion Reborn Gogeta's "Soul Punisher".

Although Whis does say something along the lines of "Ghost or not, there is nothing Lord Beerus can't destroy", can someone give me an accurate translation?

[Polyphase Avatron]

All we know is that it can one-shot a Kaio who was weaker than SSJ2 Goku, and (if it was even the same technique) it can kill ghosts. I don't see it working against anyone on a similar level to the user. It could be a deal like Reiatsu crush from Bleach, when it's extremely effective on people weaker than you, but otherwise not all that useful.

[Lord Beerus]

I've always figured that Beerus' "Hakai" is one of those "it can only harm those weaker than me" kind of techniques.

[ssjjanemba]

I've always figured that Beerus' "Hakai" is one of those "it can only harm those weaker than me" kind of techniques.

Kinda like when Freeza killed krillin and when Vegeta killed Cui.

[dario03]

As things currently stand, probably not. Whis specifically keeps Beerus in line. It would be odd if he couldn't account for that. Otherwise, Hakaishin rebellion would be an eventuality across the universes. Beerus has exchanged blows with Champa in the past. I don't think he would attempt that technique on his brother. But if he did, their closeness in strength would likely prevent it, I think.

You're probably right but they'res one other possibility. Maybe he can only destroy things that originate from u7? That would make Whis, angels, and other God of destructions immune.

Don't think Zamasu is from U7.

Though if it is a special technique that ignores strength that would seem like a good limit to have on the technique.

[kinisking]

As things currently stand, probably not. Whis specifically keeps Beerus in line. It would be odd if he couldn't account for that. Otherwise, Hakaishin rebellion would be an eventuality across the universes. Beerus has exchanged blows with Champa in the past. I don't think he would attempt that technique on his brother. But if he did, their closeness in strength would likely prevent it, I think.

You're probably right but they'res one other possibility. Maybe he can only destroy things that originate from u7? That would make Whis, angels, and other God of destructions immune.

Don't think Zamasu is from U7.

Though if it is a special technique that ignores strength that would seem like a good limit to have on the technique.

Agh! Good catch. Completely forgot about that! Oh well haha.

[Nejishiki]

Although Whis does say something along the lines of "Ghost or not, there is nothing Lord Beerus can't destroy", can someone give me an accurate translation?

The translation is accurate. Trunks and Senbei were unable to affect Mashirito because he was a ghost. Beerus immediately bypassed that conundrum. It took a Hakaishin's strength to destroy him. That's the entire context of the scene. I doubt it's supposed to relate to "soul clouds" and afterlife bodies.

[Souheil21]

i suspect he can't do it to someone who is equal/stronger to him (AKA whis), plus it was probably whis who taught him that. as for champa,it is stated in the Super Anime( I'm not sure if in the manga too since i never read it) that Beerus is stronger then champa, so he could probably do it to him.

I dont agree that Whis TAUGHT beerus that . Maybe Hakaishins have some innate abilities [Extreme Strength , Powers like Hakai and all] . Maybe they learn everything else

your probably right, but i still think it wouldn't work on whis, because whis keeps beerus under control and stops him from destroying everything

[Polyphase Avatron]

i suspect he can't do it to someone who is equal/stronger to him (AKA whis), plus it was probably whis who taught him that. as for champa,it is stated in the Super Anime( I'm not sure if in the manga too since i never read it) that Beerus is stronger then champa, so he could probably do it to him.

I dont agree that Whis TAUGHT beerus that . Maybe Hakaishins have some innate abilities [Extreme Strength , Powers like Hakai and all] . Maybe they learn everything else

your probably right, but i still think it wouldn't work on whis, because whis keeps beerus under control and stops him from destroying everything

Maybe it could work on him, but only if he was somehow unable or unwilling to defend himself.

[Kamiccolo9]

Didn't Whis say something about "not daring to wake Beerus up" or something like that?

[Captain Strawberry]

It's kinda strange people are speculating over an attack we don't know anything about. I always took it he just disintegrated because he was a lot stronger.

[Kepiaschkz]

And then in the manga, we'll learn that Beerus actually vaporizes Zamasu with a simple Ki blast. And that the "Hakai" technique was just an anime only thing.

[DSB]

And then in the manga, we'll learn that Beerus actually vaporizes Zamasu with a simple Ki blast. And that the "Hakai" technique was just an anime only thing.

This really happened in the manga ?

[Nejishiki]

And then in the manga, we'll learn that Beerus actually vaporizes Zamasu with a simple Ki blast. And that the "Hakai" technique was just an anime only thing.

This really happened in the manga ?

He's speculating. Beerus hasn't met Zamasu in the manga continuity, at the time of this writing.

[Zephyr]

Didn't Whis say something about "not daring to wake Beerus up" or something like that?

Probably in the same way that a babysitter wouldn't dare to wake up a tantrum-prone toddler who finally passed out.