(NEW FORM) Ultimate Goku?
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My drive to create a parody YouTube channel full of clickbait videos like "NEW INTRO!! Goku Might Have Black Hair?" is increasing.
"Now, a lot of you Dragon Dudes and Dudettes have been asking me about this one. And yes -- I have watched the new opening. And after careful analysis, it has led me to believe that Goku may have black hair in the upcoming arc. Let's look at the hints, here, here, and here (red arrows and circles directing the viewers' eye toward random parts of Goku's hair in the intro scene).
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This would all align with evidence previously in the series, that Goku might have black hair. You can see here in the Saiyan Saga, Goku has black hair. And here, if you look closely when he's talking to Krillin, you can see -- that's right -- he has black hair here too. Now, I don't know for sure exactly what's going on with it, but it seems like just the sort of thing Toei would add.
If you have thoughts on Goku having black hair in the new arc, let me know. And let me know what your predictions are for the new arc! Be sure to like, subscribe, and leave your opinions in the comments. And be sure to check back next week, when I interview Gohan's barber about the bang being the true source of his power."
"Now, a lot of you Dragon Dudes and Dudettes have been asking me about this one. And yes -- I have watched the new opening. And after careful analysis, it has led me to believe that Goku may have black hair in the upcoming arc. Let's look at the hints, here, here, and here (red arrows and circles directing the viewers' eye toward random parts of Goku's hair in the intro scene).
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This would all align with evidence previously in the series, that Goku might have black hair. You can see here in the Saiyan Saga, Goku has black hair. And here, if you look closely when he's talking to Krillin, you can see -- that's right -- he has black hair here too. Now, I don't know for sure exactly what's going on with it, but it seems like just the sort of thing Toei would add.
If you have thoughts on Goku having black hair in the new arc, let me know. And let me know what your predictions are for the new arc! Be sure to like, subscribe, and leave your opinions in the comments. And be sure to check back next week, when I interview Gohan's barber about the bang being the true source of his power."
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I really don't want Goku to get another form. I think Toriyama/Toei should stop while they're ahead with Super Saiyan Blue and just call it a day. I mean, how many times can they really recolour Super Saiyan and pass it off as another new form? I really hope what we saw in the opening was just a literal red herring.
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More fun if the arrows point elsewhere than the hair.Cipher wrote:My drive to create a parody YouTube channel full of clickbait videos like "NEW INTRO!! Goku Might Have Black Hair?" is increasing.
"Now, a lot of you Dragon Dudes and Dudettes have been asking me about this one. And yes -- I have watched the new opening. And after careful analysis, it has led me to believe that Goku may have black hair in the upcoming arc. Let's look at the hints, here, here, and here (red arrows and circles directing the viewers' eye toward random parts of Goku's hair in the intro scene).
...
This would all align with evidence previously in the series, that Goku might have black hair. You can see here in the Saiyan Saga, Goku has black hair. And here, if you look closely when he's talking to Krillin, you can see -- that's right -- he has black hair here too. Now, I don't know for sure exactly what's going on with it, but it seems like just the thing Toei would add.
If you have thoughts on Goku having black hair in the new arc, let me know. And let me know what your predictions are for the new arc! Be sure to like, subscribe, and leave your opinions in the comments. And be sure to check back next week, when I interview Gohan's barber about the bang being the true source of his power."
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Ok, let's TOTALLY AVOID to watch a single frame.
What you exactly see is that Goku in Blue form create that red aura.
Because you're lazy my friends, while instead I have a lot of spare time, I did a test and that aura have the exact #HEX code of the red aura of the enemy is fighting.
The color code is #ED463D -dense red.
That, to be precise, is different from the red of Kaiohken.
#FF486A - YES, it's a shade of pink.
So, what's happening is that Goku was about to use that kind of energy (used by an "evil one"), but refuse it (that suggest that's a kind of evil/bad/dangerous energy).
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Cipher wrote:My drive to create a parody YouTube channel full of clickbait videos like "NEW INTRO!! Goku Might Have Black Hair?" is increasing.
"Now, a lot of you Dragon Dudes and Dudettes have been asking me about this one. And yes -- I have watched the new opening. And after careful analysis, it has led me to believe that Goku may have black hair in the upcoming arc. Let's look at the hints, here, here, and here (red arrows and circles directing the viewers' eye toward random parts of Goku's hair in the intro scene).
...
This would all align with evidence previously in the series, that Goku might have black hair. You can see here in the Saiyan Saga, Goku has black hair. And here, if you look closely when he's talking to Krillin, you can see -- that's right -- he has black hair here too. Now, I don't know for sure exactly what's going on with it, but it seems like just the thing Toei would add.
If you have thoughts on Goku having black hair in the new arc, let me know. And let me know what your predictions are for the new arc! Be sure to like, subscribe, and leave your opinions in the comments. And be sure to check back next week, when I interview Gohan's barber about the bang being the true source of his power."
I can already say that your comments about the new arc are gonna be the best things about it. Let the good times keep on rolling!
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You're right.ChronoTwigger wrote:More fun if the arrows point elsewhere than the hair.
Like, two pointing to the hair and one to a random spot in the background would be perfect.
Don't think I can't do the top 40 radio announcer voice.
Wow! I hadn't thought of that before! Pretty good theory, along with some compelling evidence!So, what's happening is that Goku was about to use that kind of energy (used by an "evil one"), but refuse it (that suggest that's a kind of evil/bad/dangerous energy).
But could this mean Goku is Goten?
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Oh my God. I laughed so hard at this.Cipher wrote:My drive to create a parody YouTube channel full of clickbait videos like "NEW INTRO!! Goku Might Have Black Hair?" is increasing.
"Now, a lot of you Dragon Dudes and Dudettes have been asking me about this one. And yes -- I have watched the new opening. And after careful analysis, it has led me to believe that Goku may have black hair in the upcoming arc. Let's look at the hints, here, here, and here (red arrows and circles directing the viewers' eye toward random parts of Goku's hair in the intro scene).
...
This would all align with evidence previously in the series, that Goku might have black hair. You can see here in the Saiyan Saga, Goku has black hair. And here, if you look closely when he's talking to Krillin, you can see -- that's right -- he has black hair here too. Now, I don't know for sure exactly what's going on with it, but it seems like just the sort of thing Toei would add.
If you have thoughts on Goku having black hair in the new arc, let me know. And let me know what your predictions are for the new arc! Be sure to like, subscribe, and leave your opinions in the comments. And be sure to check back next week, when I interview Gohan's barber about the bang being the true source of his power."
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Completely mastering kaioken would pretty make Goku limitless, as he could always amp it up even more higher, like kaioken x100, x10000, x100000000.....Baggie_Saiyan wrote:The hair in the OP is a lot more refined also the Kaioken never covers the user to the point they cannot be seen plus the fact it is too ambiguous of a tease are telling me it isn't Kaioken, I would prefer a new form over mastering of Kaioken it is supposed to be a flawed technique that has pretty much been the whole point of it mastering it will take away from it so much.mute_proxy wrote:Just so you know, Goku's hair goes up while in Kaioken too:
https://youtu.be/1Iuq_W0wxbg?t=1m56s
I think it'll be a mastered Kaioken or something
It would be a dumb idea, i hope they just give him a new transformation.
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Him being in his base form at the end of that could just be them hiding the transformation. The opening might even be altered when he gets the form, assuming there is a new form.
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Or you know, it might have been Kaioken. Openings often take artistic license for stuff like that.Lord Beerus wrote:I really don't want Goku to get another form. I think Toriyama/Toei should stop while they're ahead with Super Saiyan Blue and just call it a day. I mean, how many times can they really recolour Super Saiyan and pass it off as another new form? I really hope what we saw in the opening was just a literal red herring.
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I do remember hearing that Toriyama wanted to eliminate transformations all together. Or at least eliminate them having to transform to increase their fighting ability.
I think Goku and Gohan learning how to be SSJ all the time back in the Cell Saga was the start of it. It was stated that transforming wastes too much energy.
I'm thinking they could be returning to this idea of eliminating transformations all together.
I think Goku and Gohan learning how to be SSJ all the time back in the Cell Saga was the start of it. It was stated that transforming wastes too much energy.
I'm thinking they could be returning to this idea of eliminating transformations all together.
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Black Goku / Future Trunks saga... was/is garbage.
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I think that is exactly the point. It will not necessarily mean physically as he may not change at all, and that i would gladly accept.Lord Beerus wrote:I really don't want Goku to get another form. I think Toriyama/Toei should stop while they're ahead with Super Saiyan Blue and just call it a day. I mean, how many times can they really recolour Super Saiyan and pass it off as another new form? I really hope what we saw in the opening was just a literal red herring.
Let's get things straight, nobody wants anyone to transform in to a fluorescent raver.
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What?? They are two characters??? I thoughts that was a GT time traveling stuff. I had evidences of that.Cipher wrote:You're right.ChronoTwigger wrote:More fun if the arrows point elsewhere than the hair.
Like, two pointing to the hair and one to a random spot in the background would be perfect.
Don't think I can't do the top 40 radio announcer voice.
Wow! I hadn't thought of that before! Pretty good theory, along with some compelling evidence!So, what's happening is that Goku was about to use that kind of energy (used by an "evil one"), but refuse it (that suggest that's a kind of evil/bad/dangerous energy).
But could this mean Goku is Goten?
So sad.
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I'm gonna take an educated guess and say the new form from the opening is Super Saiyan Violet. It will be a perfect mastery of the Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken integrated into Goku's being.
We saw him power up to Super Saiyan, then Super Saiyan Blue, then Goku seems to be surrounded by Kaioken, but the imagery implies a new form. The producers edit the clip to show his Base form again, in order to keep it secret.
We saw him power up to Super Saiyan, then Super Saiyan Blue, then Goku seems to be surrounded by Kaioken, but the imagery implies a new form. The producers edit the clip to show his Base form again, in order to keep it secret.
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I just noticed that during the Super's eighth ending, we could see that steam effect around Goku just what we saw/what you mentioned about Goku in Super's opening:kibbles wrote:after the red aura explosion we see him emerging from the red aura. his hair is black but his hair style looks like the super saiyan hair, and he has a steam like aura around him. if it's symbolizing a new form then it will either be ultimate goku or a base god form.
of course, it could just be hair physics, and the steam could just be symbolizing after effects of kaioken overload. in the next scene we see him battling like normal again.
Interesting...
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There seems to be a red outline around Goku based on the ending song and even the intro song. My guess is that he absorbs/masters the Kaioken since they've been showing that a lot recently when Goku was fighting in the Exhibition Match. Honestly I think it's a cool design but the idea just sucks. It would go to show that Goku even managed to conquer Kaioken. He managed to control something that puts tremendous stress on his body each time he uses. It just sucks because it seems like Goku really doesn't have any limits then. I always looked at Kaioken and thought well at least there's one thing that's been out of Goku's reach. Goku becomes too OP when he breaks every single limit he has.superfan2024 wrote:I just noticed that during the Super's eighth ending, we could see that steam effect around Goku just what we saw/what you mentioned about Goku in Super's opening:kibbles wrote:after the red aura explosion we see him emerging from the red aura. his hair is black but his hair style looks like the super saiyan hair, and he has a steam like aura around him. if it's symbolizing a new form then it will either be ultimate goku or a base god form.
of course, it could just be hair physics, and the steam could just be symbolizing after effects of kaioken overload. in the next scene we see him battling like normal again.
Interesting...
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Maybe the opening is suggesting that Goku powers up to his very best (SSB + KKx10 or even 20) then says screw it all and proceeds to fight in his base form, while still being able to keep up with Jiren somehow.
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What the hellemperior wrote:Maybe the opening is suggesting that Goku powers up to his very best (SSB + KKx10 or even 20) then says screw it all and proceeds to fight in his base form, while still being able to keep up with Jiren somehow.
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The new form is also in Dragon Ball Heroes.
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Don't worry about this, because Goku barely will beat Jiren with this kaioken/new form (maybe) and nothing will change.There seems to be a red outline around Goku based on the ending song and even the intro song. My guess is that he absorbs/masters the Kaioken since they've been showing that a lot recently when Goku was fighting in the Exhibition Match. Honestly I think it's a cool design but the idea just sucks. It would go to show that Goku even managed to conquer Kaioken. He managed to control something that puts tremendous stress on his body each time he uses. It just sucks because it seems like Goku really doesn't have any limits then. I always looked at Kaioken and thought well at least there's one thing that's been out of Goku's reach. Goku becomes too OP when he breaks every single limit he has.
Also, if is really kaioken, then probably is another Toei idea and in the manga we'll never see this.
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I still think that in the opening is just the regular Kaioken, but I could be wrong. We'll see.
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