PerhapsTheOtherOne wrote:
"Cunt" and "Mary Sue" are much too strong to truly apply to Caulifla. I think people need to use terminology that carries a lot less baggage. I think more appropriate descriptors would be "driven and overconfident".
When i said mary sue i was referring to Kale, an amateur warrior with no experience suddenly taking shots from SSB, i think they should have kept her at SS2 tier and grow her powers from there
I used cunt as the feminine equivalent of asshole, people like to throw the word asshole a lot so now-days it has a decreased impact, well... when i said cunt i meant to use it in that way
HeroR wrote:
The show explaining why someone is an asshole doesn't mean the audience have to like or accept it. Especially when the Kais point out all his dick behavior liking blowing up a Kai's planet over a game, tries to destroy the Earth over freaking pudding, ruins Bulma's birthday party because he was a petty jerk, and he literally never pays for anything. He got everything wanted and more except pudding. So he's a boss who is a Karma Houdini that really annoyed many people.
Yet, Cali is more of an asshole because she's arrogant and doesn't know her place. Yeah, being arrogant is a far worse crime then wanting to destroy a planet over bad food.
Nah, i wasn't explaining why he is an asshole. I was expressing how i feel about beereus from the perspective of someone who likes him and which i feel is a majority btw. He was properly introduced, he didnt need to act like hot shit because he was the BIG BOSS his own prowess spoke louder than words. and i never said she was more of an asshole than beerus
Besides thats the thing with main bosses/antagonists, they dont need to be likeable. At first i hated Vegeta and then begun to grow on me at the same time goku did, i recall Goku saying i used to hate you. So i feel that was very well done as i shared Gokus feelings it made it more relatable to me. Now Vegeta is my 2nd favorite character
The reason it doesnt matter, Beerus is entitled to destruction as he sees fit thats his job. He doesnt need a reason to destroy earth, everyone should be thankful for Beerus. Its only because beerus that Goku and Vegeta got to train with Whiss. I'm sure everyone is more than happy with the current deal of free food in exchange for deity favors
Also, Beerus has been around longer than Cali and Kale at this point, who weren't formally introduced until six months ago. And "all they have going for them is beewbs and Broly" is one way to undermine why fans liked them. And since when is the internet the place to judge popularity since everyone on the internet hate and mock Twilight, yet it's one of the best selling series of all time.
Thats what I'm saying established characters get to act up, especially main ones. Secondary newcomers not so much
I dont have any other place to measure their popularity from, but from what i seen on the net the big draw to these characters is the whole female super saiyans and Broly comeback, thats what all the talks about them revolves around and the tingly back thing
I feel they messed up when they introduced Cabba as someone who didn't know SSJ which in turn tied their hands when it comes to cauli and kale. Had Cauli and Kale been introduced as two seasoned super saiyans people would be more receptive of their progress