Who is the TRUE hero of Dragonball?

[SsjCookie]

This may be surprising but Bulma is the true hero of Dragonball and also by extension Future Trunks.

If it weren't for them, they all would have died in the original timeline

Vegeta can still be considered a reluctant anti hero who only fights for his family and himself.
Goku is more of an accidental hero, but still a hero nonetheless no matter how questionable his actions sometimes are.

So there you have it, the true heroes of Dragonball are Bulma and Future Trunks.

[GodKaio-Ken]

If you want to use causation for events as criteria then Freeza is the true hero.

Then if you want to continue to use causation it's his parents. Their parents. So forth.

You're using an argument of infinite regression. For example if Goku doesn't save Earth/Namek from Freeza there is no Future Trunks.

[SupremeKai25]

Well, technically, the Supreme Kais are the true heroes of Dragon Ball; because without them there would be no life at all, which means no Saiyans, which means no Goku, Vegeta and Trunks.

[SsjCookie]

If you want to use causation for events as criteria then Freeza is the true hero.

Then if you want to continue to use causation it's his parents. Their parents. So forth.

You're using an argument of infinite regression. For example if Goku doesn't save Earth/Namek from Freeza there is no Future Trunks.

If you want to look at it that way then yeah, without Freeza destroying the Saiyan race Vegeta and Goku would have never ended up on earth, Vegeta would be King instead and Goku would have become some third class soldier under Vegeta's rule.

Freeza is the 'unwilling" hero of Dragonball.

[SsjCookie]

Oh wait, didn't Lord Beerus ordered freeza to destroy the saiyan race ?

Correction: Lord Beerus is the true hero of Dragonball.

[Jackalope89]

Oh wait, didn't Lord Beerus ordered freeza to destroy the saiyan race ?

Correction: Lord Beerus is the true hero of Dragonball.

But that was only after going there to be "entertained" (fed by) King Vegeta. Thus making his line the true heroes.

[Torturephile]

Whoever created universe 7.

[MrBlackFox]

I'd say Mr. Satan
He's nothing compared to...everyone else, but in some way he always tried to do something brave, even if could be annhilated in an eyeblink

If was not for him, we'd have no more Vegeta now, he'd be dead during Buu battle

[Kanious]

By causation logic, Akira Toriyama is the true hero haha.

Well, there are many characters that can be considered the true heros, depending the situation, but i too like to see Bulma and Future Trunks as ultimate heroes for the Z Fighters.

[Grimlock]

Bardock - Hadn't he decided to send Goku to Earth, well... They would all be doomed.

Gohan - Hadn't he let Goku fall from the cliff, well... They would all be doomed.

Trunks - Hadn't he brought a medicine to Goku, well... They would all be doomed.

Android 16 & Mr Satan - Hadn't they collaborate, well... They would all be doomed.

Mr Satan - Hadn't he befriended Majin Buu, well... They would all be doomed.


Honorable mention: Rock - Hadn't it hit Goku's head, well... They would all be doomed.

[Zephyr]

Freeza: If he hadn't compelled Bardock to send Goku to Earth, they'd all be doomed.

King Cold: If he hadn't raised Freeza to be a sadistic tyrant, eventually compelling Bardock to send Goku to Earth, they'd all be doomed.

[DragonBallFoodie]

Beerus for helping out and supporting the Z-Fighters throughout the Zamasu and Future Tournament arcs.

[prince212]

I’m not sure if this post is kinda joke .. the true hero is the main hero , Gokuh, since the very beginning to the very end . There’s More heroes , of course, before and after Goku , like Roshi or trunks .
But that’s in db audience eyes , in db most people from the earth the true hero is Mr. Satan

[SsjCookie]

By causation logic, Akira Toriyama is the true hero haha.

Well, there are many characters that can be considered the true heros, depending the situation, but i too like to see Bulma and Future Trunks as ultimate heroes for the Z Fighters.

Actually Akira Toriyama's greatgreatgreagreatgreatgreatgr......wait, STOP!!
Enough already, lets keep it in Dragonball okay?

Goku is of course the main hero. But is he an intentional hero?

[lancerman]

You're confusing "catalys" with "hero". Freeza and Beerus never saved anybody or did anything heroic. They spawned a series of events that allowed heroes to emerge.

[AnimeNation101]

Its obvious. Tori-bot is the true hero of Dragon Ball since he is basically Toriyama’s way of existing on DB and since Toriyama created DB, him and by extension Tori-bot is the real hero AND the villain at the same time

[DBZAOTA482]

It's me who is the real hero.

[Black Hawk]

You're confusing "catalys" with "hero".

I second this notion. Some refer to Gokū as an accidental or unintentional hero, since his goals simply tend to align with saving the day, but a catalyst is even more accidental or unintentional a hero than that; yes, Bulma's discovery of a Dragon Ball and her subsequent search for the others led her to meet Gokū, enabling absolutely everything else that happened thereafter, but her actions have never directly saved the planet, galaxy, or universe. Rather, her actions have often enabled someone else to do so, namely Gokū, or prevented someone from destroying or ruling, such as Freeza.

Applying such a principle of causality, let's use an example to compare one of the major actions of Bulma and Gokū, respectively, that are associated with saving of lives (or, in this case, the universe) in order to illustrate what I mean.

Bulma created and brought along a Dragon Radar to Planet Namek; this enabled the team to prevent the Namekian Dragon Balls from falling into the hands of Vegeta and/or Freeza, effectively preventing their potentially becoming immortal and therefore, to an extent, undefeatable. Even Super Saiyajin Gokū would not be able to defeat a 100% power Freeza who can't be killed; he might beat him down just as he did in the manga, but, after a time, Gokū's stamina and energy would deplete, enabling Freeza to kill him (assuming Freeza's immortality would include healing of wounds as it did in Future Zamas' case). Bulma is one reason for Freeza's defeat, effectively saving the universe from his reign.

When Freeza unveiled his true form, no one shy of Gokū was able to match him in combat; with the Kaiōken x20, Gokū roughly equaled 50% of Freeza's power. Regardless of what Bulma could have accomplished technologically, nothing she might have been capable of could possibly have directly affected Freeza; she could potentially have deceived him and/or prevented him from accomplishing certain things (as she did with contributing to the prevention of his immortality), but there was no way she could harm him, let alone defeat him and stop him from ruling the universe with an iron fist as the most powerful mortal (just so long as he didn't irritate Beerus again). Gokū, however, did exactly that; he engaged Freeza in battle and won. As Movie 13's title says, if Gokū didn't do it, who would have? Without him, there wouldn't have been a hero.

In other words, Gokū's actions more closely relate to what ends up saving the day and often are what saves the day in the end. It is true that, often, he could not have done so if not for Bulma's prior actions, but her actions aren't what saved the day in the end; someone else with inhuman abilities, be it Gokū, Gohan, Vegeta, or the unrivaled Monaka, took what she made possible and hit the problem really, really hard.

I kind of lost sight of the point I was making while on-and-off typing this, but hopefully that made sense. I kind of lost interest in it, but I didn't want to just discard it all. Sorry if it's a little jumbled and not as sensible as it could have been.

[Freeza9000]

Bardock and Gine since they gave birth to what will inevitably become the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball Franchise, Sun Wukong.

[SsjCookie]

You're confusing "catalys" with "hero".

I second this notion. Some refer to Gokū as an accidental or unintentional hero, since his goals simply tend to align with saving the day, but a catalyst is even more accidental or unintentional a hero than that; yes, Bulma's discovery of a Dragon Ball and her subsequent search for the others led her to meet Gokū, enabling absolutely everything else that happened thereafter, but her actions have never directly saved the planet, galaxy, or universe. Rather, her actions have often enabled someone else to do so, namely Gokū, or prevented someone from destroying or ruling, such as Freeza.

Applying such a principle of causality, let's use an example to compare one of the major actions of Bulma and Gokū, respectively, that are associated with saving of lives (or, in this case, the universe) in order to illustrate what I mean.

Bulma created and brought along a Dragon Radar to Planet Namek; this enabled the team to prevent the Namekian Dragon Balls from falling into the hands of Vegeta and/or Freeza, effectively preventing their potentially becoming immortal and therefore, to an extent, undefeatable. Even Super Saiyajin Gokū would not be able to defeat a 100% power Freeza who can't be killed; he might beat him down just as he did in the manga, but, after a time, Gokū's stamina and energy would deplete, enabling Freeza to kill him (assuming Freeza's immortality would include healing of wounds as it did in Future Zamas' case). Bulma is one reason for Freeza's defeat, effectively saving the universe from his reign.

When Freeza unveiled his true form, no one shy of Gokū was able to match him in combat; with the Kaiōken x20, Gokū roughly equaled 50% of Freeza's power. Regardless of what Bulma could have accomplished technologically, nothing she might have been capable of could possibly have directly affected Freeza; she could potentially have deceived him and/or prevented him from accomplishing certain things (as she did with contributing to the prevention of his immortality), but there was no way she could harm him, let alone defeat him and stop him from ruling the universe with an iron fist as the most powerful mortal (just so long as he didn't irritate Beerus again). Gokū, however, did exactly that; he engaged Freeza in battle and won. As Movie 13's title says, if Gokū didn't do it, who would have? Without him, there wouldn't have been a hero.

In other words, Gokū's actions more closely relate to what ends up saving the day and often are what saves the day in the end. It is true that, often, he could not have done so if not for Bulma's prior actions, but her actions aren't what saved the day in the end; someone else with inhuman abilities, be it Gokū, Gohan, Vegeta, or the unrivaled Monaka, took what she made possible and hit the problem really, really hard.

I kind of lost sight of the point I was making while on-and-off typing this, but hopefully that made sense. I kind of lost interest in it, but I didn't want to just discard it all. Sorry if it's a little jumbled and not as sensible as it could have been.

I get it,
Goku is of course the greatest hero of them all, even though it isn't really in his intention to be one.
When it comes all down with it, he's just a guy who like's to fight strong guys, when he saves a whole lot of people while doing so then that's a bonus.

I do have a problem with his attitude in Super though, that's why I'm sort of questioning his integrity.
The Goku in Super deliberately puts people in danger for his own selfish desires and therefore I can't really see him as a genuine hero anymore.
Goku in DBZ did some dumb things but he never went looking for trouble, trouble found him instead.
So that's why I think that Bulma is more of a hero than Goku nowadays.