DragonBall Z Abridged

[Big Boss]

If Kaiser decides to use this for the Goten and Trunks fight in the tournament then I will fucking die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGvn7gNJaU

[KaiserNeko]

If Kaiser decides to use this for the Goten and Trunks fight in the tournament then I will fucking die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGvn7gNJaU

Then you better start writing your will!

[Big Boss]

If Kaiser decides to use this for the Goten and Trunks fight in the tournament then I will fucking die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KGvn7gNJaU

Then you better start writing your will!

[Danfun64]

Inb4 Kaiser uses something else for the Goten vs Trunks fight... like Mezase Tenkaichi.

[kemuri07]

Android 17 actually mentions a boat when they realize they have to go to Kame house.

Also, you couldnt pay me to make the My Way scene shorter. XD

I also had a problem with Cell song the first time, because everything was kinda serious during the beam clash, i was expecting something more dramatic or "epic" to finish the fight, so the song catch me off guard in the wrong way and i couldn't appreciate it, but when i watched the episode again today, i was prepared for it, and i found it actually funny and I enjoyed Taka performance a lot more.

The Frank Sinatra bit worked for me because I like to imagine that, during the last few moments of his life, Cell is kind of happy because he got what he wanted: He was able to achieve perfection, and engage in a fight with the strongest fighter in the galaxy. Granted, he still lost and Cell was that much of a sore loser that he tried blowing up the earth almost immediately after it became apparent that Gohan was stronger. But I like to imagine that song signify that at the end of it all, he had a blast.


Really curious how you'll treat Vegeta next saga. It's been kinda crazy watching him begin as the resident badass of DBZA to now being just as much of butt-monkey as Krillin or Yamcha. That's definitely gonna add a lot of baggage when he decides to turn Majin.

[FortuneSSJ]

-Season 3 final-

Congratulations TFS! You guys went out with a bang!

One thing I always loved about TFS is how professional their work looks (from Freeza arc onwards) and their knowledge about the source material, which makes them able to foreshadow everything they want and make the story flow much better.

The voice actors are also really good and this episode just made me think even more that MasakoX in a more serious dub would do a much better Toriyama Goku than Superman Schemmel ever did. This part was fucking phenomenal!

I also like the fact that MasakoX voices both Adult Goku and Gohan, because besides the japanese and portuguese version I don't know any other dub does that.

And thanks for the subtitles, once again. It really helps for non native english speakers like me to understand some lines.
See you, next season!

[Scsigs]

-Season 3 final-

Congratulations TFS! You guys went out with a bang!

One thing I always loved about TFS is how professional their work looks (from Freeza arc onwards) and their knowledge about the source material, which makes them able to foreshadow everything they want and make the story flow much better.

The voice actors are also really good and this episode just made me think even more that MasakoX in a more serious dub would do a much better Toriyama Goku than Superman Schemmel ever did. This part was fucking phenomenal!

I also like the fact that MasakoX voices both Adult Goku and Gohan, because besides the japanese and portuguese version I don't know any other dub does that.

And thanks for the subtitles, once again. It really helps for non native english speakers like me to understand some lines.
See you, next season!

I mean, I don't think MasakoX would go over well in a serious dub at all. His voice is just too nasally & high pitched for Goku. Nozawa's is more grating & high pitched too. Schemmel bassed his performance off of Peter Kalemis' take ont he character, which was in turn based off of Ian James Corlett's, much in the same way that Lex Lang's was informed by Schemmel's, but his vocal chords couldn't handle that kind of voice. Schemmel just has so much power & authority in his Goku voice when he wants to. In fact, it's not even Superman. I can't imagine any variation of Superman having Schemmel's Goku voice. Then again, that might've been the Z dub's terrible scripting & handling of the character, which should be discarded altogether due to Kai, the later movies, & Super's dubs being a LOT more closer in translation to the Japanese, since they actually care about accuracy nowadays (which, people will argue otherwise, but I tend to ignore those people).

In terms of Goku & Gohan sharing the same VAs, I don't know why a dub would keep that whatsoever. Nozawa's performances as every member of Goku's family literally sounds the exact same no matter the character. She literally only has a few voices; kid, teen, & older teen & it's distracting as all hell. I don't care if she's Toriyama-approved, having her voice all of Goku's family wasn't a good idea. The differences in her performances for them are so minute that you literally have to speak Japanese, or watch the show 100 times, or listen closely enough, to notice any real differences. But, there have been some cases where Goku & Gohan have shared the same VAs in the English dubs. Mainly when they're kids. In the Canadian-casted dubs, Saffron Henderson played Goku in FUNi's test dub of DB, then played Gohan in Z. For the American casts, Stephanie Nadolny played both as kids for the longest time, then Colleen Clinkenbeard took over in Kai for both. I'll let you decided who was better. Otherwise, having them voiced by different people as adults is the best call.

Even TFS have Justin Briner set to voice older Gohan in the Buu Saga, so it's not like they don't see the value in that.

[Kamiccolo9]

The more I hear Cell sing "My Way," the more I love it. Kudos, Kaiser. Loved every second of 60.

[MasenkoHA]

Schemmel bassed his performance off of Peter Kalemis' take ont he character, which was in turn based off of Ian James Corlett's,

I’m sorry but I don’t hear Kelamis in Schemmel’s performance at all. I definitely hear Schemmel doing Corlett but Kelamis pretty much did his own thing while Schemmel did Corlett (as he was probably directed to in 1999!

. Schemmel just has so much power & authority in his Goku voice when he wants to.

Too bad Goku isn’t an authoritarian.

But, there have been some cases where Goku & Gohan have shared the same VAs in the English dubs. Mainly when they're kids. In the Canadian-casted dubs, Saffron Henderson played Goku in FUNi's test dub of DB, then played Gohan in Z. For the American casts, Stephanie Nadolny played both as kids for the longest time, then Colleen Clinkenbeard took over in Kai for both. I'll let you decided who was better. Otherwise, having them voiced by different people as adults is the best call..

And it hasn’t worked once. Henderson? Underwhelming Goku. Terrific Gohan. Nadolny? Passable Goku. Horrid horrid Gohan. Clinkenbeard? Acceptable Gohan. Horribly miscast Goku.

[Scsigs]

Schemmel bassed his performance off of Peter Kalemis' take on the character, which was in turn based off of Ian James Corlett's,

I’m sorry but I don’t hear Kelamis in Schemmel’s performance at all. I definitely hear Schemmel doing Corlett but Kelamis pretty much did his own thing while Schemmel did Corlett (as he was probably directed to in 1999!

I mean, Corlette came before Kalemis & Kalemis was only Goku for a little while, so it's possible he took inspiration from both, since they had to mimic the Canadian cast as well as they could. There ARE similarities between the 3 of them, as I'm sure you can see.

Schemmel just has so much power & authority in his Goku voice when he wants to.

Too bad Goku isn’t an authoritarian.[/quote]
I don't see why that has anything to do with that. Goku needs a voice that can get pretty commanding when it needs to. Schemmel has that.

But, there have been some cases where Goku & Gohan have shared the same VAs in the English dubs. Mainly when they're kids. In the Canadian-casted dubs, Saffron Henderson played Goku in FUNi's test dub of DB, then played Gohan in Z. For the American casts, Stephanie Nadolny played both as kids for the longest time, then Colleen Clinkenbeard took over in Kai for both. I'll let you decided who was better. Otherwise, having them voiced by different people as adults is the best call..

And it hasn’t worked once. Henderson? Underwhelming Goku. Terrific Gohan. Nadolny? Passable Goku. Horrid horrid Gohan. Clinkenbeard? Acceptable Gohan. Horribly miscast Goku.[/quote]
Um...I didn't say they all worked, I said that that's what happened. What was the point of this? If this is responding to my talking about the fact that I don't think Nozawa works as them either, you should've put that in the quote too. I'm well aware that each actress works better as one character than the other, but that doesn't fix the problem since the studios aren't going to pick which actresses work the best for each.

[Scsigs]

Schemmel bassed his performance off of Peter Kalemis' take on the character, which was in turn based off of Ian James Corlett's,

I’m sorry but I don’t hear Kelamis in Schemmel’s performance at all. I definitely hear Schemmel doing Corlett but Kelamis pretty much did his own thing while Schemmel did Corlett (as he was probably directed to in 1999!

I mean, Corlette came before Kalemis & Kalemis was only Goku for a little while, so it's possible he took inspiration from both, since they had to mimic the Canadian cast as well as they could. There ARE similarities between the 3 of them, as I'm sure you can see.

Schemmel just has so much power & authority in his Goku voice when he wants to.

Too bad Goku isn’t an authoritarian.

I don't see why that has anything to do with that. Goku needs a voice that can get pretty commanding when it needs to. Schemmel has that.

But, there have been some cases where Goku & Gohan have shared the same VAs in the English dubs. Mainly when they're kids. In the Canadian-casted dubs, Saffron Henderson played Goku in FUNi's test dub of DB, then played Gohan in Z. For the American casts, Stephanie Nadolny played both as kids for the longest time, then Colleen Clinkenbeard took over in Kai for both. I'll let you decided who was better. Otherwise, having them voiced by different people as adults is the best call..

And it hasn’t worked once. Henderson? Underwhelming Goku. Terrific Gohan. Nadolny? Passable Goku. Horrid horrid Gohan. Clinkenbeard? Acceptable Gohan. Horribly miscast Goku.

Um...I didn't say they all worked, I said that that's what happened. What was the point of this? If this is responding to my talking about the fact that I don't think Nozawa works as them either, you should've put that in the quote too. I'm well aware that each actress works better as one character than the other, but that doesn't fix the problem since the studios aren't going to pick which actresses work the best for each.

[8000 Saiyan]

The differences in her performances for them are so minute that you literally have to speak Japanese, or watch the show 100 times, or listen closely enough, to notice any real differences.

I don't need to know Japanese to note any differences in the voices she does for Goku, Gohan and Goten. Sure, it probably wasn't necessary for her to voice all three, but she's a great actress.

And even if she sounded grating and too high-pitched to my ears, I'd still gladly take her over Schemmel in Season 3. At least she could put on a good performance for Goku while it took Schemmel more than ten years to give a great performance as the character.

[Fionordequester]

And even if she sounded grating and too high-pitched to my ears, I'd still gladly take her over Schemmel in Season 3.

And I'd gladly watch The Room rather than Manos: Hand of Fate. One being better than the other doesn't make it good ...

[Scsigs]

The differences in her performances for them are so minute that you literally have to speak Japanese, or watch the show 100 times, or listen closely enough, to notice any real differences.

I don't need to know Japanese to note any differences in the voices she does for Goku, Gohan and Goten. Sure, it probably wasn't necessary for her to voice all three, but she's a great actress.

And even if she sounded grating and too high-pitched to my ears, I'd still gladly take her over Schemmel in Season 3. At least she could put on a good performance for Goku while it took Schemmel more than ten years to give a great performance as the character.

To be fair to Schemmel, he hadn't acted a day in his life before he booked the part in 1999 & had to work for an, at the time, fledgling company & with an inexperienced crew, so his performance naturally reflected that, so I cut him slack. I mean, it's cringeworthy at best, but I at least understand why. Even so, I still like Nadolny & Hebert as Gohan & Edwards as Goten despite that. Mostly because they could at least act (mainly Hebert & Edwards there. Nadolny is surprisingly base breaking as I understand it).

[ShadowBardock89]

To get back on topic, who does TFS have pinned to be Goten and Kid Trunks?

[Fizzer]

I'm wondering about the way you wrote the scene where Satan takes credit for the win - is Jimmy encouraging him to do so?

[MasenkoHA]

To get back on topic, who does TFS have pinned to be Goten and Kid Trunks?

Pretty sure MasakoX will voice Goten just a hunch

[Kanassa]

To get back on topic, who does TFS have pinned to be Goten and Kid Trunks?

Pretty sure MasakoX will voice Goten just a hunch

If he was, I think he'd be voicing Goten in his Dragon Ball fanfic instead of someone else.

[ekrolo2]

To get back on topic, who does TFS have pinned to be Goten and Kid Trunks?

Pretty sure MasakoX will voice Goten just a hunch

If he was, I think he'd be voicing Goten in his Dragon Ball fanfic instead of someone else.

Ye, Boo Gohan wasn't voiced by him in Android 13 so I think Goten won't be either. Bardock and Future Gohan weren't voiced by him either.

[MozillaVulpix]

I think I remember ages AGES ago them saying Lani was going to voice Goten. But loads of things have changed since then, so who knows.