Vic Mignogna

[Freeza Soldier #156]

LMAO. People, Vic will be just fine in the long term. Relax. Yeah, he’s taking a few hits now (understandably), but I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s voice acting again in a couple years after laying low for awhile. Look at Mel Gibson, there’s explicit evidence that he’s a wife beating, racist, anti-semetite that really really REALLY loves blow jobs. He then went on to direct an academy award winning film. Hell, Louis CK and the allegations are FAR more troublesome than Vic’s yet he’s back at doing stand up after barely a year.

So yeah, I wouldn’t be so dramatic.

Honestly, I wouldn’t be so sure about this. There are a lot more options open to a giant A-List Hollywood actor vs. a comparatively small time voice actor. There are only a few large dubbing companies and most of them are severing ties with him. I don’t think this is just going to blow over for him this time. Isn’t his other major source of income cons? He’s quickly losing those as well. All but a handful of the con appearances he had planned this year have given him the boot and the others will probably be following suit soon enough now that dubbing companies are getting rid of him. I’d say he better start looking for a new line of work.

[SuperSaiyaManZ94]

Vic looks like a psychopath. I Dont believe him

i do not believe vic. he looks like a psychopath to me

Funimation is starting to make changes it seems.

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2 ... st/.143026

They cant telll what the charged. Kissing on the cheek? Hugging?. For that they gonna destroy him?

Obviously this guy wasn’t interested in having any sort of meaningful discussion. He was just trying to stir the pot. He contradicted himself at every turn. Good riddance.

I could tell he was just spewing a bunch of BS, not one of his posts that i could see had any degree of intelligence or serious thought/consideration put into them.

This forum is for intelligent franchise related conversation and not hot take garbage that contributes absolutely nothing, especially in the manner by which he was going on.

[MasenkoHA]

This thread will inevitably be locked but honestly I just want to say I don’t understand why so many people don’t see the problem with a middle-age man grabbing on and kissing on girls as young as FOURTEEN isn’t a problem. Don’t act like kissing them on the cheek makes it okay. It’s not. Or you know doing other questionable obviously red flag stuff like giving underage teenagers his phone number.

JFC if he wasn’t a high profile anime voice actor NOBODY would say that behavior from a middle-aged individual around young teenagers is a-okay.

And while I’m hardly qualified to talk about transgenderism I never saw why it was so hard to just be respectful.

[Cure Dragon 255]

NOT playing Devil's Advocate, but you can say hi by kissing the "Air" besides the cheek, and cheek kissing is common in more close friend circles where I live...But I'm not defending Mignogna. He definitely crossed the line.

[Thanos]

It seems he’s still being invited to cons and speaking in front of.. puzzlingly dedicated fans. I just don’t understand the fandom (freaking out, crying, etc... really?) around someone who does dub work. To each their own, I suppose. Anyway, hopefully if he’s allowed to continue work in the industry, he’s at least learned his lesson and won’t try it on with anyone else, because ultimately it’s about the victims and clearly these people still trust him implicitly.

[gokaiblue]

This thread will inevitably be locked but honestly I just want to say I don’t understand why so many people don’t see the problem with a middle-age man grabbing on and kissing on girls as young as FOURTEEN isn’t a problem. Don’t act like kissing them on the cheek makes it okay. It’s not. Or you know doing other questionable obviously red flag stuff like giving underage teenagers his phone number.

JFC if he wasn’t a high profile anime voice actor NOBODY would say that behavior from a middle-aged individual around young teenagers is a-okay.

And while I’m hardly qualified to talk about transgenderism I never saw why it was so hard to just be respectful.

In regards to the peck on the cheek and hugs, there are some fans who wanted it and some who didn't. The problem is that Vic didn't stop to think about whether or not the fan actually wanted to be that close.

As for the other stuff, yeah, if he did it (which is looking more and more likely), then yeah, that's definitely creepy. Out of all the stories, the only one that I'm really skeptical on is the Jessie Pridemore story. The others, I just don't know really. The fact is that there's so much information coming in at both sides that I don't know what to believe. Something caused Rial to pull Vic aside and talk to him. This much is true.

[Kunzait_83]

This thread will inevitably be locked but honestly I just want to say I don’t understand why so many people don’t see the problem with a middle-age man grabbing on and kissing on girls as young as FOURTEEN isn’t a problem. Don’t act like kissing them on the cheek makes it okay. It’s not. Or you know doing other questionable obviously red flag stuff like giving underage teenagers his phone number.

JFC if he wasn’t a high profile anime voice actor NOBODY would say that behavior from a middle-aged individual around young teenagers is a-okay.

Just to further add to this before the inevitable lock (with regards to those who are mainly defending Mignogna from a place of "I love his VA work so much that I don't want to believe he's guilty"):

There's a LOT of artists (be they musicians, illustrators, filmmakers, writers, actors, whatever else have you) who's work I am enthusiastically and adoringly passionate over, but whom they themselves as individual human beings I hold sometimes scathing degrees of contempt and disdain for and I will in NO way whatsoever mince words or make ANY kind of excuses for them outside of their work.

Mel Gibson for example is a complete and utter scumbag and nutjob of the highest order in real life: but Mad Max will always remain one of my definitive all time favorite movies, despite his real life assholery. That means that I will both continue to love and champion Mad Max as a great movie (and Mel as being great, acting-wise, in it) while at the same exact time being 100% totally at ease with saying "Fuck everything else about Mel Gibson outside of some of his acting work".

Same exact concept goes for child molester/genius filmmaker extraordinaire Roman Polanski; I will still watch the ever loving shit out of Repulsion and be totally enthralled with it as a piece of filmed art from now till doomsday, while simultaneously being outraged that the man who made it has never seen (and likely will never see) the inside of a prison cell for what he did. Or for Kevin Spacey and his incredible film output, despite being a (very highly likely) sex offender.

Same exact principal of "love the person's art, cannot stand the way they conduct themselves in real life" also goes for the utterly horrid, inexcusably grotesque manner in which Stanley Kubrick (another great filmmaker) had treated Shelly Duval on the set of The Shining (another one of my favorite movies): no matter how great the movie or how great the movie-maker and no matter what kind of performance Kubrick was trying to get out of Duval, NO person, on a fundamental, human level, deserves to be treated in the manner that Kubrick treated Duval on the set of that movie, not for ANY reason or ANY work of art/creativity. That goes quintuple times infinity for cases like the infamous rape scene (and the indefensibly horrific manner in which it was filmed) between Marlon Brando and Maria Schneider for the movie Last Tango in Paris.

Or also Courtney Love, who as a person is an abusive, narcissistic trainwreck who has been a corrosive, toxic influence on pretty much every person who has ever had the misfortune to know her personally: yet is still also an outstanding hard rock vocalist, and who helped make Live Through This one of the single greatest rock albums of my lifetime. Michael Jackson's musical legacy of course will always remain untouchably iconic and culturally significant: but assuming he actually DID molest children (and that in itself is a gigantic, contradictory-filled clusterfuck of a topic), he should NEVER be excused for that, not ever: not even in death, and no matter HOW monumental his musical work was. Period.

There's easily dozens upon dozens more examples I could probably give, but you get the basic idea here.

Its 100% possible to both hold the professional/creative work of an individual in the highest regard, while totally and utterly disparaging and heaping scorn on their real life criminal/shitty behavior and personal characters (when that's called for mind you). Its 100% possible to both simultaneously say "Love this work you made or helped to make, in and of itself as a work, until the day I die" and "Fuck you forever as a human being for the horrible things you've done to others". Its 100% possible to hold more than one thought in your head at the same time.

Just because a person happens to be responsible for or was instrumentally involved in the creation of a piece of art or creative work that you love, does NOT in any which way mean that that person is anything other than just a person, who is as capable of horrible actions and reprehensible, damaging behavior to others. And their involvement in a work you love in NO way gives them free license to be given an automatic pass for their every real life transgression, no matter HOW much you may be into their work.

This whole bizarre, and frankly downright creepy and disturbing mentality of "I like this person's work, therefore I like that person as a celebrity/public figure, therefore I idol worship this person and hold them up to a different set of standards apart from anybody else" is more or less how personality cults become a thing. Where a person accomplishes something in their professional life that people are so enamored with, that they project onto them all of their goodwill and transfer all of their self-worth onto that person to a point where that person is no longer a person in their eyes: they're an icon and a symbol representing something that is sacred and impossible to ever be or do wrong. And thus will see any criticism of that person/symbol, no matter how CLEARLY warranted and even necessary, as a personal attack on THEM, and will go to absurd lengths to rationalize and justify defending that person, no matter WHAT they've done.

Its insidiously twisted, warped, and sad behavior in and of itself in a general sense to begin with: but ESPECIALLY when aaaaaaaaall of that personal energy and investment - so much so that one is willing to rationalize and defend inappropriate touching of young, underage girls - is aimed at a guy who's big claim to fame is simply being a fucking anime dub voice actor? For a dub who's overall quality is... HIGHLY questionable and suspect at best? That's goes an extra notch past the normal realm of sad and creepy of such emotionalized behavior and idol-worship thinking: that's just as pathetic as pathetic gets, and - to put this in language that some of those folks might best understand - you may as well upload your posts defending this creep to Uporn or Xhamster as a "cuck" video.

[majinwarman]

I deleted my last post because I felt I was spreading misinformation on my stance. So, I decided to go back through the evidence and really think about it. As a man who knew a person who was wrongly accused of a similar crime and was eventually cleared of the crime, it makes it hard for me to make a unbias view. So, I decided to take a step back and really think about. I went back and look through YouTube and rewatch some of Vic's panels. I saw his behavior there with young women there really scary. I think there is a very good chance Vic is guilty. I can't see that his behavior in those panels I saw doesn't correlate with the stories in the reporting. So, I think that Vic should be given a fair punishment for his crime. While he may not be formally charged for the crime, I think he should be barred from voice acting. I think that the roles he currently has should be recasted especially if Broly returns in Super. I just hope that Funimation does soon though I think that they may not do that. I just that the victims get the justice and help they need. I hope that I have clearly talked about my stance and hope everyone doesn't hold me for my pervious post.

[IM21]

ok, i watched some videos on youtube about this and damn, people are not happy with Vic being fired.

[Yalos]

I blame Kakarotto

[IM21]

welcome to the new era. Soon you won't be able to say hi to a girl.

This is an absurd statement.

Like I said before. If this shit was going on for 15 years it shoud have been made into a big deal long ago.

You may wish to actually read the article(s) in question and other conversations taking place here.

with all the #metoo movement, toxic masculinity and stupid gillette commercials portraying the men bad I don't really think it's that absurd.

And I have read articles and what people are saying about Vic and after all of this talk about him, I think the police should really start with the investigation. I mean c'mon, it's been going on for 15 years. Until then its innocent until proven guilty. Sorry that I don't belive everything people say.

If he is guilty he can go to hell.

[KBABZ]

Well this thread needs to be thrown in a dumpster and lit on fire.

Yeah, frankly the thread has outlived it's usefulness. It's nice to have a place to grief together like this but at this point we're just explaining what should be basic things to a bunch of sheltered folks who don't interact with the world much.

For me though this thread is about more than just grieving about it. There are aspects of the franchise like the Japanese anime take of General Blue and just... Master Roshi in general (including the anime getting in on the action by adding its own additional scenes and Kai retaining one of the Buu Saga's most egregious examples) that, while I understand why they don't get a lot of attention, I'm glad have been talked about at all recently, as I don't like how a lot of fans just pretend that stuff didn't happen and doesn't matter. This thread has seen ups and downs for sure but I'm glad it exists for us to talk about this stuff.

Spoiler:

your signature say you are a transgender. not a woman

why? because i said the truth? he calling himeself a girl and pretend he has the mind of a female when he dosent. hes a male not a girl

i dident called you inhuman freak but you cant just pretend your a girl where your not. your saying your a female and you can give female prespective when you cant. all that nonsense about non binery and shit i dont care. sound like a stupid new age bullshit to me. you are what you were born to be period.

Wow, talk about a guy from the 1950s. Look man, you really need to check your own behavior and try to be more considerate towards your fellow human beings and think about how they feel. The fact that you also can't be bothered capitalizing anything and can't spell himself, doesn't, didn't, perspective, binary or don't correctly tells us everything else we need to know, and suggest you're probably even younger than JulieYBM is. Making your age statement hypocritical at the very least.

[Cursed Lemon]

"Innocent until proven guilty."

We literally have dozens of pictures of Vic doing exactly what people were uncomfortable with him doing.

Sweet actual Christ.

[Kunzait_83]

we're just explaining what should be basic things to a bunch of sheltered folks who don't interact with the world much.

About as flawless and perfectly stated an explanation for most all of my frustrations with this place as a broader community throughout the years (since like, the mid/late 2000s) that have helped - along with various personal matters on my end of course - lead to my various sudden departures and time off from here throughout the years.

Also, while I've certainly had my share of (oftentimes stark) differences with you over the years (that have in many cases lead to some of the above-noted frustration on my end), let me take a quick moment to highlight this toxic sewage right here and say:

Spoiler:

your signature say you are a transgender. not a woman

why? because i said the truth? he calling himeself a girl and pretend he has the mind of a female when he dosent. hes a male not a girl

i dident called you inhuman freak but you cant just pretend your a girl where your not. your saying your a female and you can give female prespective when you cant. all that nonsense about non binery and shit i dont care. sound like a stupid new age bullshit to me. you are what you were born to be period.

This moronic, knuckle-dragging garbage has ZERO place not just here, but in pretty much any other genuinely civilized and humane society.

[MasenkoHA]

"Innocent until proven guilty."

We literally have dozens of pictures of Vic doing exactly what people were uncomfortable with him doing.

Sweet actual Christ.

I think, but I could be wrong, that some members are under the impression he’s on trial for rape or sexual assault. Of course he’s not, he’s just finally being called out on his creepy behavior toward underage girls (as well as apparently people who aren’t of the Christain faith?). Which of course the evidence is all over the place.


Or they don’t understand the problem with someone Vic’s age doing the things he’s doing with really young teenagers. In which case......yikes

[Robo4900]

While this thread's still up, I thought I'd drop a thought in regards to the idea of redubbing the character of Broly for home video...

Do Funi want this guy to be the face of their flagship product for the next few months? And when they bring in a new guy, do they want to have him live in the shadow of Mignogna's work, probably even voicematching him so as to keep consistency with the movie? Or would it be better to get someone else in to redub for the DVDs/BDs, and voice the character permanently from then on, for this new era of our new Broly?

[Cursed Lemon]

Or they don’t understand the problem with someone Vic’s age doing the things he’s doing with really young teenagers. In which case......yikes

Pretty sure it's this.

Minus the "misunderstanding" part.

[ShadowBardock89]

Hell, Louis CK and the allegations are FAR more troublesome than Vic’s yet he’s back at doing stand up after barely a year.

Funny you mention Louis CK. He had a role in Gravity Falls and once the allegations surrounding him came out, his character was redubbed by Alex Hirsch:
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-news ... le-202522/
I see a similar situation with Mignogna happening.

Anyways, this controversy exploded into a cluster-you-know-what:
https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/02/ ... na-videos/
Not a good look, Toole.
You should have let people decide based on the evidence instead of attacking people and TRYING TO GET THEM REMOVED FROM YOUTUBE?!
What a douche!

While this thread's still up, I thought I'd drop a thought in regards to the idea of redubbing the character of Broly for home video...

Do Funi want this guy to be the face of their flagship product for the next few months? And when they bring in a new guy, do they want to have him live in the shadow of Mignogna's work, probably even voicematching him so as to keep consistency with the movie? Or would it be better to get someone else in to redub for the DVDs/BDs, and voice the character permanently from then on, for this new era of our new Broly?

To be fair, they only list Sean Schemmel (actor), Christopher Sabat (actor), and Tatsuya Nagamine (Director) on the Amazon DVD/Blu-Ray pre-order:
https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Supe ... 086&sr=1-1
https://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Supe ... 086&sr=1-2

The movie is already in theaters and I don't think they'll pull it until it has run its course.
Your last question is nuanced. We don't know if they will redub Broly before the DVD/BD release, but it would not surprise me if they do.
They will replace Vic going forward, that much is certain. Hopefully, Sabat can find the right person that capture this new Broly's character.

[KBABZ]

While this thread's still up, I thought I'd drop a thought in regards to the idea of redubbing the character of Broly for home video...

Do Funi want this guy to be the face of their flagship product for the next few months? And when they bring in a new guy, do they want to have him live in the shadow of Mignogna's work, probably even voicematching him so as to keep consistency with the movie? Or would it be better to get someone else in to redub for the DVDs/BDs, and voice the character permanently from then on, for this new era of our new Broly?

It also sucks because he did IMO the only good English version of Dragon Soul.

[Robo4900]

While this thread's still up, I thought I'd drop a thought in regards to the idea of redubbing the character of Broly for home video...

Do Funi want this guy to be the face of their flagship product for the next few months? And when they bring in a new guy, do they want to have him live in the shadow of Mignogna's work, probably even voicematching him so as to keep consistency with the movie? Or would it be better to get someone else in to redub for the DVDs/BDs, and voice the character permanently from then on, for this new era of our new Broly?

It also sucks because he did IMO the only good English version of Dragon Soul.

And the only English version of Dan Dan Kokoro Hikarete'ku.

(There was the Blue Water version, but it had entirely different vocal melodies, unrelated lyrics, and was cut down a bit)