The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Dragon Ball Gus]

New Hypothetical Battle
SSJ4 Kafla vs Super Saiyan Berserk Broly

[p-hyvo]

Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Merged Zamasu (Halo, no immortality)
SSJ3 Future Gohan vs Android 16
SSJ3 Vegito (Buu arc) vs SSJ4 Goku (Baby arc) & Golden Ape Baby
SSJ1 Kefla (post-ToP) vs SSJ1 Broly (DBS)
Base Vegito (RoF) vs Golden Freeza (RoF)
SSJ2 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Suppressed Jiren (ep.109-110)
2nd Omen Goku vs UI Omen Black (Scythe)
SSJ Rage Trunks (end of Black arc, no Hope Sword) vs Enraged Base Broly (DBS)
Mastered Berzerk Kale vs SSJ2 Caulifla, SSJ2 Cabba & Android 18 (ToP)
SSJ4 Goku (Buu arc) vs Buuhan

R1 : freezer
R2 : i can go with gohan
R3 : Goku/baby rapes vegetto even in Their base forms
R4 : broly
R5 : we can say they are at least on par imo
R6 : gogeta
R7 : Goku via stronger base
R8 : broly smashes
R9 : mastered berserk was a little weaker than ssj2 caulifla, kale got stronger with ssj2, so if she's olny masteredwberserk 1 she loses
R10 : ssj4 Goku would be strong as ssj vegetto more or less, so he would definitely win

[Berserker1921]

New Fights

1. Golden Frieza (ToP), Hit, and Goku Blackv vs Ssj Broly?

2. Moro vs Ssj Blue Vegeta (Black)?

3. GoD Toppo vs Ssj Blue Gogeta (RoF)?

4. FP Broly vs 100% Jiren (not LB)?

5. SsjBlue Gogeta (Broly, no KK or BE) vs LB Jiren?

6. Android 17 vs SsjGod Goku (BoG)?

7. 10% Beerus vs Moro (current)?

[Rubens]

Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Merged Zamasu (Halo, no immortality)
SSJ3 Future Gohan vs Android 16
SSJ3 Vegito (Buu arc) vs SSJ4 Goku (Baby arc) & Golden Ape Baby
SSJ1 Kefla (post-ToP) vs SSJ1 Broly (DBS)
Base Vegito (RoF) vs Golden Freeza (RoF)
SSJ2 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Suppressed Jiren (ep.109-110)
2nd Omen Goku vs UI Omen Black (Scythe)
SSJ Rage Trunks (end of Black arc, no Hope Sword) vs Enraged Base Broly (DBS)
Mastered Berzerk Kale vs SSJ2 Caulifla, SSJ2 Cabba & Android 18 (ToP)
SSJ4 Goku (Buu arc) vs Buuhan

1. Freeza should still be ssblue tier so Zamasu is quite stronger in comparison. Zamasu wins rather easily.
2. SS2 would be probably more than enough to defeat 16.
3. I have no idea. I guess since Goku got a stronger since then, the GT duo would likely win.
4. A tough call, but I'm going with Kefla if Broli doesn't go full power.
5. Considering Freeza lost power overtime, Vegetto could probably beat him in base after a while; but ignoring that, I think he'd need at least super saiyan.
6. I think SS2 Gogeta would be more than enough to beat him.
7. It's a tough one, probably only being sorted out through skill. Either one could win.
8. This should be a tie. I'm going with Broli to win this fight.
9. SS2 Caulifla seemed able to handle berserker Kale just before the tournament; both only got stronger so with the help of Cabba and 18 (who I don't think would add much here), the group might bring her down.
10. I know there's a bit of a debate going on recently about Goku vs "super Boo" thing and I'm still undecided. I think Boo would win.

New Fights
1. Golden Frieza (ToP), Hit, and Goku Black vs Ssj Broly?
2. Moro vs Ssj Blue Vegeta (Black)?
3. GoD Toppo vs Ssj Blue Gogeta (RoF)?
4. FP Broly vs 100% Jiren (not LB)?
5. SsjBlue Gogeta (Broly, no KK or BE) vs LB Jiren?
6. Android 17 vs SsjGod Goku (BoG)?
7. 10% Beerus vs Moro (current)?

1. Golden Freeza and ssrosé Goku Black probably wouldn't beat ss Broli but, with Hit, I'm sure they'd win. Unless Broli goes full power.
2. I'm still not sold on Moro's power so I'll be holding off on that.
3. I think Gogeta wins easily.
4. I'm convinced Jiren would win even with Broli putting up a good fight.
5. Gogeta would win but not easily.
6. Even though 17 is absurdely strong, it's still hard for me to buy that he can match any godly power up. To be honest though, 17 playing on the defense would scavenge a win.
7. Pass.

New Hypothetical Battle
SSJ4 Kefla vs Super Saiyan Berserk Broly

Full power Broli forced Gogeta to use ssblue, which would be somewhat of an equivalent to ss4... I suppose Kefla would beat him.

[Zamasu55]

New Fights

1. Golden Frieza (ToP), Hit, and Goku Blackv vs Ssj Broly?

2. Moro vs Ssj Blue Vegeta (Black)?

3. GoD Toppo vs Ssj Blue Gogeta (RoF)?

4. FP Broly vs 100% Jiren (not LB)?

5. SsjBlue Gogeta (Broly, no KK or BE) vs LB Jiren?

6. Android 17 vs SsjGod Goku (BoG)?

7. 10% Beerus vs Moro (current)?

- Hit kills Broly while Freeza and Black keep him busy.
- I'll wait another month or two to try and understand Moro's strenght.
- Toppo wins.
- Broly was stated to be Goku's strongest foe, we cannot ignore it.
- 17 stomps.
- See above.

[sunsetshimmer]

New Hypothetical Battle
SSJ4 Kafla vs Super Saiyan Berserk Broly

Kefla wrecks, as even with SSJ2 her power was enough to kill Goku in Ultra Instinct Omen with single attack.

[PFM18]

New Hypothetical Battle
SSJ4 Kafla vs Super Saiyan Berserk Broly

Kefla wrecks, as even with SSJ2 her power was enough to kill Goku in Ultra Instinct Omen with single attack.

So? How does that show that Kefla must be stronger than SSJ Broly? Of course, SSJ Broly>2nd UI Omen.

[ruler9871]

SSJ3 Goku (Start of BoG) & Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc)
SSJ3 Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs Base Rildo
Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Base Toppo & Full Speed Dyspo
Hope Sword Trunks vs SSB Gogeta (Black arc)
Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs SSB Goku & SSB Vegeta (Both RoF)
Android 17 (ToP) vs Goku Black Rose (no Scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality)
Full Power Broly (DBS) vs Full Power Jiren (not Awakened)
3rd Omen Goku vs Full Power Beerus
Android 18 (Android arc) vs Metal Cooler
SSJ1 Vegeta (Buu arc) vs Pikkon

[Zamasu55]

SSJ3 Goku (Start of BoG) & Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc)
SSJ3 Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs Base Rildo
Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Base Toppo & Full Speed Dyspo
Hope Sword Trunks vs SSB Gogeta (Black arc)
Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs SSB Goku & SSB Vegeta (Both RoF)
Android 17 (ToP) vs Goku Black Rose (no Scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality)
Full Power Broly (DBS) vs Full Power Jiren (not Awakened)
3rd Omen Goku vs Full Power Beerus
Android 18 (Android arc) vs Metal Cooler
SSJ1 Vegeta (Buu arc) vs Pikkon

- Goku is a non-factor, Vegeta on the other hand seriously harms Vegito, but loses once his rage boost's gone.
- Stalemate until the fusion runs off.
- I don't think Freeza made any significant improvements after the ToP, no training was mentioned. The Pride Troopers beat him.
- Gogeta, maybe?
- Any of them should be able to defeat him.
- Broly.
- Goku.
- Cooler absolutely destroyed two Ssj's, 18 was more or less on par with Vegeta, she won only 'cause she doesn't get tired. Cooler doesn't really have this problem, so 18's done for.
- Stalemate.

[p-hyvo]

SSJ3 Goku (Start of BoG) & Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc)
SSJ3 Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs Base Rildo
Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Base Toppo & Full Speed Dyspo
Hope Sword Trunks vs SSB Gogeta (Black arc)
Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs SSB Goku & SSB Vegeta (Both RoF)
Android 17 (ToP) vs Goku Black Rose (no Scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality)
Full Power Broly (DBS) vs Full Power Jiren (not Awakened)
3rd Omen Goku vs Full Power Beerus
Android 18 (Android arc) vs Metal Cooler
SSJ1 Vegeta (Buu arc) vs Pikkon

R1 : enraged vegeta oneshots
R2 : base rildo is above buuhan men he spites
R3 : I'm going for team u11 only because freezer can't kill/stop sysop without help
R4 : gogeta kek
R5 : ultimate gohan finger flicks
R6 : 17 traps them
R7 : I think Jiren, but if we go by the novel Broly wins
R8 : mhh very close. I'd say bills cause goku's his is limited in time
R9 : metal cooler
R10 : ssj vegeta. Pikkon is a bit weaker than ssj goku

[Rubens]

SSJ3 Goku (Start of BoG) & Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc)
SSJ3 Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs Base Rildo
Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Base Toppo & Full Speed Dyspo
Hope Sword Trunks vs SSB Gogeta (Black arc)
Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs SSB Goku & SSB Vegeta (Both RoF)
Android 17 (ToP) vs Goku Black Rose (no Scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality)
Full Power Broly (DBS) vs Full Power Jiren (not Awakened)
3rd Omen Goku vs Full Power Beerus
Android 18 (Android arc) vs Metal Cooler
SSJ1 Vegeta (Buu arc) vs Pikkon

1. Despite their improvement, I don't think they could beat Vegetto - although I believe they would hold their own and force Vegetto to work for the win;
2. Rildo, if not mistaken, was said to be as strong as Boo (which Boo though is up for debate) so I think Gotenks would beat him;
3. Freeza is about as strong as a super saiyan blue and so does Toppo who with Dyspo's help, would definitely beat him;
4. Gogeta blue would win this but not very easily;
5. Either of them would be more than enough to beat Gohan, let alone the two;
6. 17 could probably beat Zamasu but not Goku Black at all, so he'd lose badly;
7. I think Jiren is still slightly stronger so he should win;
8. It's hard to tell since it's difficult to gauge Beerus. I guess if Jiren is stronger than his GoD, I suppose Goku can potentially beat the purple cat;
9. Interesting. Considering it took both Goku and Vegeta as super saiyans to work together and barely win, Cooler just might be around hers or even 17's strength. I honestly think Cooler would win due to his abilities (regeneration, teleportation...);
10. I'm unsure whether Vegeta at this point is already stronger than Cell Games Goku or not, so I'll go with the not namekian.

[Steven Bloodriver]

1) Super Saiyan 3 Majin Vegeta (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Majin Buu (The Fat One) (Majin Buu Saga).

2) Full Power Super Saiyan Son Gohan (DBZ: Resurrection F) vs. Super Buu (Base Form) (No Z Fighter Absorptions).

3) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Syn Shenron (SD Saga) vs. Never-Miss Hit (Base Form) (Against Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta).

4) Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly vs. Super Saiyan Berserker 3 Kale (Universal Survival Saga).

[Grand Marshal 1]

1) Super Saiyan 3 Majin Vegeta (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Majin Buu (The Fat One) (Majin Buu Saga).

2) Full Power Super Saiyan Son Gohan (DBZ: Resurrection F) vs. Super Buu (Base Form) (No Z Fighter Absorptions).

3) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Syn Shenron (SD Saga) vs. Never-Miss Hit (Base Form) (Against Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta).

4) Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly vs. Super Saiyan Berserker 3 Kale (Universal Survival Saga).

1.

• Majin Vegeta

2.

• Super Buu

3.

• Syn Shenron is already quite powerful, so giving him UIO is an overkill. If Hit had it though, he would most definitely do the job.

4.

• Old Broly I assume. If so, I kinda place him above Kale, but their powers aren't that far apart.

[p-hyvo]

1) Super Saiyan 3 Majin Vegeta (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Majin Buu (The Fat One) (Majin Buu Saga).

2) Full Power Super Saiyan Son Gohan (DBZ: Resurrection F) vs. Super Buu (Base Form) (No Z Fighter Absorptions).

3) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Syn Shenron (SD Saga) vs. Never-Miss Hit (Base Form) (Against Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta).

4) Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly vs. Super Saiyan Berserker 3 Kale (Universal Survival Saga).

R1 Majin vegeta, it he goes fullpower he can oneshot
R2 super buu obv, nosense question
R3 syn
R4 Broly, if it's the one from super, oneshots in base

[SSJgogeto]

MUI Goku Black (Scythe) vs Full Power Broly (Post-Movie) - Black
SSJ1 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs SSBE Vegeta & SSBKKx20 Goku (both ep.123) - Goku & Vegeta
Turles (peak) vs 3rd form Freeza (Namek arc) - Freeza
Mastered Berzerk Kale (Post-ToP) vs SSJ3 Goku (DBS Broly) - Kale
SSJ1 Broly (DBS) vs God Toppo - Toppo
SSJ1 Gohan (Baby arc) vs Base Vegito (Buu arc) - Gohan
SSG Vegeta (DBS Broly) vs SSJ Rage Trunks (end of Black arc, no Hope Sword) - Trunks
SSG Goku (DBS Broly) vs Ultimate Gohan (end of ToP) - Gohan
Base Toppo & Full Speed Dyspo vs Enraged Base Broly - Toppo & Dyspo
Piccolo (RoF) vs Perfect Cell - Cell

Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Merged Zamasu (Halo, no immortality) - Freeza
SSJ3 Future Gohan vs Android 16 - Gohan
SSJ3 Vegito (Buu arc) vs SSJ4 Goku (Baby arc) & Golden Ape Baby - Goku & Baby
SSJ1 Kefla (post-ToP) vs SSJ1 Broly (DBS) - Broly
Base Vegito (RoF) vs Golden Freeza (RoF) - Freeza
SSJ2 Gogeta (DBS Broly) vs Suppressed Jiren (ep.109-110) - Jiren
2nd Omen Goku vs UI Omen Black (Scythe) - Goku
SSJ Rage Trunks (end of Black arc, no Hope Sword) vs Enraged Base Broly (DBS) - Trunks
Mastered Berzerk Kale vs SSJ2 Caulifla, SSJ2 Cabba & Android 18 (ToP) - Kale
SSJ4 Goku (Buu arc) vs Buuhan - Buuhan

SSJ4 Kafla vs Super Saiyan Berserk Broly - Kefla

1. Golden Frieza (ToP), Hit, and Goku Blackv vs Ssj Broly? - Freeza, Hit and Black
2. Moro vs Ssj Blue Vegeta (Black)? - Vegeta
3. GoD Toppo vs Ssj Blue Gogeta (RoF)? - Gogeta
4. FP Broly vs 100% Jiren (not LB)? - Jiren
5. SsjBlue Gogeta (Broly, no KK or BE) vs LB Jiren? - Jiren
6. Android 17 vs SsjGod Goku (BoG)? - 17
7. 10% Beerus vs Moro (current)? - Moro

SSJ3 Goku (Start of BoG) & Enraged Vegeta (BoG) vs SSJ1 Vegito (Buu arc) - Goku & Vegeta
SSJ3 Gotenks (Buu arc Post-Rosat) vs Base Rildo - Rildo
Golden Freeza (DBS Broly) vs Base Toppo & Full Speed Dyspo - Freeza
Hope Sword Trunks vs SSB Gogeta (Black arc) - Gogeta
Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs SSB Goku & SSB Vegeta (Both RoF) - Gohan
Android 17 (ToP) vs Goku Black Rose (no Scythe) & Future Zamasu (no immortality) - 17
Full Power Broly (DBS) vs Full Power Jiren (not Awakened) - Jiren
3rd Omen Goku vs Full Power Beerus - Beerus
Android 18 (Android arc) vs Metal Cooler - 18
SSJ1 Vegeta (Buu arc) vs Pikkon - Pikkon

1) Super Saiyan 3 Majin Vegeta (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Majin Buu (The Fat One) (Majin Buu Saga). - Vegeta
2) Full Power Super Saiyan Son Gohan (DBZ: Resurrection F) vs. Super Buu (Base Form) (No Z Fighter Absorptions). - Buu
3) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Syn Shenron (SD Saga) vs. Never-Miss Hit (Base Form) (Against Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta). - Syn Shenron
4) Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly vs. Super Saiyan Berserker 3 Kale (Universal Survival Saga). - Kale

[Rubens]

1) Super Saiyan 3 Majin Vegeta (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Majin Buu (The Fat One) (Majin Buu Saga).
2) Full Power Super Saiyan Son Gohan (DBZ: Resurrection F) vs. Super Buu (Base Form) (No Z Fighter Absorptions).
3) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Syn Shenron (SD Saga) vs. Never-Miss Hit (Base Form) (Against Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta).
4) Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly vs. Super Saiyan Berserker 3 Kale (Universal Survival Saga).

1) In terms of raw power, even if ss3 majin Vegeta isn't as strong as ss3 Goku, he would be stronger than Boo. I say Vegeta would win, although I can see this fight backfiring and Boo surviving long enough for Vegeta to lose his stamina or being absorbed.
2) Gohan seemed to have gotten considerably weaker so Boo would give him a one-sided beating.
3) Pass.
4) Assuming it's the new Broli, I believe he would win this fight; the old Broli though would probably lose.

[sunsetshimmer]

1) Super Saiyan 3 Majin Vegeta (Majin Buu Saga) vs. Majin Buu (The Fat One) (Majin Buu Saga).

2) Full Power Super Saiyan Son Gohan (DBZ: Resurrection F) vs. Super Buu (Base Form) (No Z Fighter Absorptions).

3) Ultra Instinct "Omen" Syn Shenron (SD Saga) vs. Never-Miss Hit (Base Form) (Against Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta).

4) Legendary Super Saiyan 3 Broly vs. Super Saiyan Berserker 3 Kale (Universal Survival Saga).

1. Majin Vegeta would be stronger for sure, but we know Buu can regenerate so it's not easy to say who wins

2. Super Buu, as RoF Gohan is much weaker than Ultimate Gohan

3. Syn is much stronger and with UI he would also be much faster. Syn wrecks.

4. Kale (of course we talk about DBZ Broly)

[PFM18]

New Hypothetical Battle
SSJ4 Kafla vs Super Saiyan Berserk Broly

Broly's form is not called "Berserk" that is Kale's transformation. They aren't the same, albeit similar.

[GatoF]

1.Vegeta SSBE vs Broly SSJ1
2. Krillin Tien and Master Roshi (ToP) vs Super Vegeta (Cell)
3. God Toppo vs Goku SSBKKx20(ToP)
4. Skinny Buu (pre-ToP) vs Super Buu
5. Base Goku Black vs SSJ Berserker Kale

[Berserker1921]

1.Vegeta SSBE vs Broly SSJ1
2. Krillin Tien and Master Roshi (ToP) vs Super Vegeta (Cell)
3. God Toppo vs Goku SSBKKx20(ToP)
4. Skinny Buu (pre-ToP) vs Super Buu
5. Base Goku Black vs SSJ Berserker Kale

1. I personally have them at equals, initially. Until, Broly gets stronger. And beats Vegeta, I’d say with mid-difficulty he beats Vegeta.

2. They lose badly, unless Roshi can goad Vegeta with a mafuba.

3. I have SsjBE to be slightly stronger than Goku Kkx20. I personally have Toppo beating Goku with mid-high difficulty.

4. I think Skinny Buu is around SsjGod Goku (BoG) level. So he stomps Super Buu.

5. Base Black was able to tank Ssjblue Vegeta. While that was impressive, that wasn’t really a big feat. However dealing with Kale, who is very high Ssj tier. So it can go either way.