Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
jelleline89 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:37 pm
Reservation count was updated a minute ago. 1101/3000!
Just goes to show that people will take whatever is put out no matter how crappy looking, and i will most certainly not be among that number because those screenshots have not given me much confidence.
At this rate it will only take hours till it slowly reaches 3k. This release is unacceptable and yet, it's the one to celebrate Dragon Ball Z's 30th Anniversary.
You know, there's the possibility TOEI is making their own remaster while this is FUNimation's take on it. If so, I'd assume the Japanese DBZ 30th Blu-rays to have what the Dragon Box Z DVD boxset had and more.
At least some of those preorders are cautious ones. After some careful thought I put one in until more information is released. That trailer clearly had footage from two different sources. I watched it a few times just to make sure I wasn’t seeing things, but it does. I’m angry but holding on to a very small sliver of hope. I have until the end of May to cancel (which is the few bits they’ve been willing to say on Twitter).
Of course they could always lock the orders in and then release more info and it turns out to be really that bad, so I’m taking a gamble.
DBZ_Lee wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:06 pm
For international fans, there may be hope (provided Funimation hit the 3K) that the sets will go to retail.
Funimation mention twice - if you preorder through them, then your set will be numbered.
This leads me to believe that their orders are locked at 3K, so if they hit it, then they will give retail the other 3K, so if Amazon and rightstuf get allocations, they ship overseas, so international fans look like getting an opportunity if they hit 3K.
Terminology:
Funimation reservations include an individually stamped and numbered Certificate of Authenticity
To thank everyone for their support, those who reserve a set during the reservation period through Funimation will receive a special certificate of authenticity that is individually stamped and numbered!
To me, I think this suggests the other 3K will be going to retail should they hit the minimum.
If the remastered footage in this trailer isn't final & they put extra copies on a place like Amazon, I might pick this up just out of bile fascination, especially if the price is dropped by a decent amount. At least then, I can save money towards it rather than be charged up front for money I don't have yet. It's not nearly as bad as the crop job on the earlier Blu-Rays, but the colors & lines HAVE to be unblurred & vibrant rather than overly brightened. I'm also focusing on buying the first 4 Dragon Boxes on eBay if I can for a decent price, though I might buy a full set & sell the 3 I have on eBay. For some reason, the second is the hardest to find alone, but I'll try.
The epic tale of how Sean Schemmel blocked me on Twitter:
I tagged him in a thread explaining how his performance wasn't rerecorded when FUNi were redoing parts of the early Z dub for the Orange Bricks.
He thought I was misrepresenting his work by saying he wasn't in something he was in.
I explained how that wasn't the situation & did a bit of a sarcastic kinda thing involving the rerecordings FUNi did for the Z dub to show how stupid that was.
He said they didn't record him & not use his recordings.
Blocked & he deleted his response tweets to me.
???
Profit...?
jelleline89 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:37 pm
Reservation count was updated a minute ago. 1101/3000!
Just goes to show that people will take whatever is put out no matter how crappy looking, and i will most certainly not be among that number because those screenshots have not given me much confidence.
At this rate it will only take hours till it slowly reaches 3k. This release is unacceptable and yet, it's the one to celebrate Dragon Ball Z's 30th Anniversary.
You know, there's the possibility TOEI is making their own remaster while this is FUNimation's take on it. If so, I'd assume the Japanese DBZ 30th Blu-rays to have what the Dragon Box Z DVD boxset had and more.
I'm sure as hell not buying this if the trailer footage is indicting of the release, and it's a damn shame too because for a brief second i really thought they were going to get a clue and do it properly. Apparently i was expecting too much so i am definitely not going to be selling my Dragon Boxes like i'd briefly thought of doing.
DB collection related goals as of now:
1.) Find decent priced copy of Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 (Done)
Just goes to show that people will take whatever is put out no matter how crappy looking, and i will most certainly not be among that number because those screenshots have not given me much confidence.
At this rate it will only take hours till it slowly reaches 3k. This release is unacceptable and yet, it's the one to celebrate Dragon Ball Z's 30th Anniversary.
You know, there's the possibility TOEI is making their own remaster while this is FUNimation's take on it. If so, I'd assume the Japanese DBZ 30th Blu-rays to have what the Dragon Box Z DVD boxset had and more.
I'm sure as hell not buying this if the trailer footage is indicting of the release, and it's a damn shame too because for a brief second i really thought they were going to get a clue and do it properly. Apparently i was expecting too much so i am definitely not going to be selling my Dragon Boxes like i'd briefly thought of doing.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think FUNi would put out a trailer with footage that’s not going to be used on said release. But yes, this is a real shame. They had a chance to do it right. And as it looks, they totally screwed the pooch.
Soppa Saiyjins from Dorgou Ballru Zetto is my favorite transformation everah, especially when Trounksoru did it in front of Seru and when Bejita did it when he faced Jingonigen-hachigo. But for real, I use the FUNi pronunciation. - Soppa Saia People
At this rate it will only take hours till it slowly reaches 3k. This release is unacceptable and yet, it's the one to celebrate Dragon Ball Z's 30th Anniversary.
You know, there's the possibility TOEI is making their own remaster while this is FUNimation's take on it. If so, I'd assume the Japanese DBZ 30th Blu-rays to have what the Dragon Box Z DVD boxset had and more.
I'm sure as hell not buying this if the trailer footage is indicting of the release, and it's a damn shame too because for a brief second i really thought they were going to get a clue and do it properly. Apparently i was expecting too much so i am definitely not going to be selling my Dragon Boxes like i'd briefly thought of doing.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think FUNi would put out a trailer with footage that’s not going to be used on said release. But yes, this is a real shame. They had a chance to do it right. And as it looks, they totally screwed the pooch.
I know i'm disappointed to a degree, but at least i have the Dragon Boxes so it's not really a huge blow to me personally. Still, sucks for those who wanted a proper HD remaster of the series after how crappy their last one was.
DB collection related goals as of now:
1.) Find decent priced copy of Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 (Done)
rs_chaosmaster wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:11 pm
I watched the trailer a few more times and there is definitely mixing of footage. I think Funimation will give more info on if this is the footage soon. Is it possible that they are using the money to fund the new remaster so they don’t have any actual footage? Or that it is again being done by Toei. Whatever be the case Funimation needs to give more information quickly!!
On the reservations alone, they'll make over $1,050,000 for that alone. That seems like enough to finish the series with a few different film studios that specialize in this stuff. We know they have at least the first 34 episodes done, though that could've been the first 67 as well, since they announced the next 2 sets, which would have up until those episodes, with box arts completed. Doing the math, that's 224 left. Then we have them having remastered footage until at least up until Future Trunks debuts from episode 119, so we know that the studio they contracted had roughly somewhere near there done. With around 100 episodes already scanned in & finished remastering, that leaves close to 191 episodes left. Could those be done in 2 months with 2-3 studios handling the remastering? I think. If it's 2, that's 95/96 episodes per studio. If it's 3, that's 63/64 episodes per studio. Seems like those could be done in 6 months. Maybe they've already started too. Most of that footage seemed culled together from what they had at hand. They specifically had to use 4:3 footage, so they found it on one of their hard drives & threw it together, which could explain the delay in the announcement of the reservation period. Though they might've released it today to coincide with Toriyama's birthday. I seriously hope this isn't too optimistic here, I'm more trying to be realistic because this can't be what they really intended to do with this announcement.
The epic tale of how Sean Schemmel blocked me on Twitter:
I tagged him in a thread explaining how his performance wasn't rerecorded when FUNi were redoing parts of the early Z dub for the Orange Bricks.
He thought I was misrepresenting his work by saying he wasn't in something he was in.
I explained how that wasn't the situation & did a bit of a sarcastic kinda thing involving the rerecordings FUNi did for the Z dub to show how stupid that was.
He said they didn't record him & not use his recordings.
Blocked & he deleted his response tweets to me.
???
Profit...?
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
That’s what I’m saying, after I got over my initial rage and watched the trailer a few times, there definitely is different source footage being used. It’s really obvious when you compare some of it.
rs_chaosmaster wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:11 pm
I watched the trailer a few more times and there is definitely mixing of footage. I think Funimation will give more info on if this is the footage soon. Is it possible that they are using the money to fund the new remaster so they don’t have any actual footage? Or that it is again being done by Toei. Whatever be the case Funimation needs to give more information quickly!!
On the reservations alone, they'll make over $1,050,000 for that alone. That seems like enough to finish the series with a few different film studios that specialize in this stuff. We know they have at least the first 34 episodes done, though that could've been the first 67 as well, since they announced the next 2 sets, which would have up until those episodes, with box arts completed. Doing the math, that's 224 left. Then we have them having remastered footage until at least up until Future Trunks debuts from episode 119, so we know that the studio they contracted had roughly somewhere near there done. With around 100 episodes already scanned in & finished remastering, that leaves close to 191 episodes left. Could those be done in 2 months with 2-3 studios handling the remastering? I think. If it's 2, that's 95/96 episodes per studio. If it's 3, that's 63/64 episodes per studio. Seems like those could be done in 6 months. Maybe they've already started too. Most of that footage seemed culled together from what they had at hand. They specifically had to use 4:3 footage, so they found it on one of their hard drives & threw it together, which could explain the delay in the announcement of the reservation period. Though they might've released it today to coincide with Toriyama's birthday. I seriously hope this isn't too optimistic here, I'm more trying to be realistic because this can't be what they really intended to do with this announcement.
Wait, so that's not actually the final footage? If so then i'm not yet ready to completely dismiss the release entirely until concrete information on the source has been revealed.
DB collection related goals as of now:
1.) Find decent priced copy of Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 (Done)
rs_chaosmaster wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:11 pm
I watched the trailer a few more times and there is definitely mixing of footage. I think Funimation will give more info on if this is the footage soon. Is it possible that they are using the money to fund the new remaster so they don’t have any actual footage? Or that it is again being done by Toei. Whatever be the case Funimation needs to give more information quickly!!
On the reservations alone, they'll make over $1,050,000 for that alone. That seems like enough to finish the series with a few different film studios that specialize in this stuff. We know they have at least the first 34 episodes done, though that could've been the first 67 as well, since they announced the next 2 sets, which would have up until those episodes, with box arts completed. Doing the math, that's 224 left. Then we have them having remastered footage until at least up until Future Trunks debuts from episode 119, so we know that the studio they contracted had roughly somewhere near there done. With around 100 episodes already scanned in & finished remastering, that leaves close to 191 episodes left. Could those be done in 2 months with 2-3 studios handling the remastering? I think. If it's 2, that's 95/96 episodes per studio. If it's 3, that's 63/64 episodes per studio. Seems like those could be done in 6 months. Maybe they've already started too. Most of that footage seemed culled together from what they had at hand. They specifically had to use 4:3 footage, so they found it on one of their hard drives & threw it together, which could explain the delay in the announcement of the reservation period. Though they might've released it today to coincide with Toriyama's birthday. I seriously hope this isn't too optimistic here, I'm more trying to be realistic because this can't be what they really intended to do with this announcement.
Wait, so that's not actually the final footage? If so then i'm not yet ready to completely dismiss the release entirely until concrete information on the source has been revealed.
Nobody in their right mind would showcase their final product and then that not be their product. “Oh hey, let’s just throw in whatever is on our HDD as a representation of our 30th anniversary release. Yeah!”
Soppa Saiyjins from Dorgou Ballru Zetto is my favorite transformation everah, especially when Trounksoru did it in front of Seru and when Bejita did it when he faced Jingonigen-hachigo. But for real, I use the FUNi pronunciation. - Soppa Saia People
Godgoku95 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:19 pm
should i pre-order or not?
Honestly, if you're really serious about getting it I would wait until it reaches it's funding goal. Maybe after that they might actually put out a decent trailer, as some are speculating that the footage shown isn't what the actual footage will be since they need the reservations to prove to Toei to give them the better masters. Of course who knows if that's true or not. Personally, I'd tell you to save your money or put that money into obtaining the Dragon Boxes.
How much can the Dragon Box sets be had for these days? I would be $600 for them
Depends on how long and patience you want to be. If you want it all right now then yeah you'll probably looking around $600-$800 for the whole set. If you're now in a hurry then you can wait for good deals to present themselves. I bought box 7 for $4 at a video game convention then a few months later was able to get box 5 for about $40 off eBay. It certainly takes a lot longer, but you can find them for good prices if you wait and look long enough.
"I want the guys at Funimation to carry my casket, so they can let me down one last time" - Wezenheim
Scsigs wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:31 pm
On the reservations alone, they'll make over $1,050,000 for that alone. That seems like enough to finish the series with a few different film studios that specialize in this stuff. We know they have at least the first 34 episodes done, though that could've been the first 67 as well, since they announced the next 2 sets, which would have up until those episodes, with box arts completed. Doing the math, that's 224 left. Then we have them having remastered footage until at least up until Future Trunks debuts from episode 119, so we know that the studio they contracted had roughly somewhere near there done. With around 100 episodes already scanned in & finished remastering, that leaves close to 191 episodes left. Could those be done in 2 months with 2-3 studios handling the remastering? I think. If it's 2, that's 95/96 episodes per studio. If it's 3, that's 63/64 episodes per studio. Seems like those could be done in 6 months. Maybe they've already started too. Most of that footage seemed culled together from what they had at hand. They specifically had to use 4:3 footage, so they found it on one of their hard drives & threw it together, which could explain the delay in the announcement of the reservation period. Though they might've released it today to coincide with Toriyama's birthday. I seriously hope this isn't too optimistic here, I'm more trying to be realistic because this can't be what they really intended to do with this announcement.
Wait, so that's not actually the final footage? If so then i'm not yet ready to completely dismiss the release entirely until concrete information on the source has been revealed.
Nobody in their right mind would showcase their final product and then that not be their product. “Oh hey, let’s just throw in whatever is on our HDD as a representation of our 30th anniversary release. Yeah!”
Yeah, because thinking about it now i'd figured they wouldn't seriously just slap their oversaturated DNR smear fest Season BD masters just reconverted to the original 4:3 onto the set. Certainly not for a release as hyped at this and something they are using crowd funding for.
DB collection related goals as of now:
1.) Find decent priced copy of Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 (Done)
Wait, so that's not actually the final footage? If so then i'm not yet ready to completely dismiss the release entirely until concrete information on the source has been revealed.
Nobody in their right mind would showcase their final product and then that not be their product. “Oh hey, let’s just throw in whatever is on our HDD as a representation of our 30th anniversary release. Yeah!”
Yeah, because thinking about it now i'd figured they wouldn't seriously just slap their oversaturated DNR smear fest Season BD masters just reconverted to the original 4:3. Certainly not for a release as hyped at this and something they are using crowd funding for.
Take a moment and think about every re-release of the show that has come from the lying teeth of FUNi. Besides the Level sets attempt, what did you honestly expect?
Soppa Saiyjins from Dorgou Ballru Zetto is my favorite transformation everah, especially when Trounksoru did it in front of Seru and when Bejita did it when he faced Jingonigen-hachigo. But for real, I use the FUNi pronunciation. - Soppa Saia People
AnimeMaakuo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:46 pm
Nobody in their right mind would showcase their final product and then that not be their product. “Oh hey, let’s just throw in whatever is on our HDD as a representation of our 30th anniversary release. Yeah!”
Yeah, because thinking about it now i'd figured they wouldn't seriously just slap their oversaturated DNR smear fest Season BD masters just reconverted to the original 4:3. Certainly not for a release as hyped at this and something they are using crowd funding for.
Take a moment and think about every re-release of the show that has come from the lying teeth of FUNi. Besides the Level sets attempt, what did you honestly expect?
Ok, now this is just making my head spin because we just have that one trailer which i don't think is exactly what the release will be. Unless i am missing something because i am having too high of expectations about it.
DB collection related goals as of now:
1.) Find decent priced copy of Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 (Done)
linkdude20002001 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:11 pm
No, he said this new set would use the same film prints as the Levels sets (and the HD bricks). Which is what this set is. No false claims that I can see.
That was AnimeMaauko I believe, not Geekdom.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:15 pm
Packaging itself is literally a black box! Like jesus. This release has to be a legitimate joke! Only explanation.
I like the packaging in that it feels upmarket and chic, formal. It's literally the only part about the boxset that actually lives up to the occasion for which it was created.
Funnily enough though I was thinking instead of the "30th Anniversary Blu-Rays" we should start calling these Black Bricks. Because the only thing worse than an Orange Brick is a BURNT Orange Brick!
SuperSaiyaManZ94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:00 pm
Ok, now this is just making my head spin because we just have that one trailer which i don't think is exactly what the release will be. Unless i am missing something because i am having too high of expectations about it.
In any case you still have a right to be frustrated if that idea is true because then Funimation has used footage that is not indicative of this release to advertise said release!
Yeah, because thinking about it now i'd figured they wouldn't seriously just slap their oversaturated DNR smear fest Season BD masters just reconverted to the original 4:3. Certainly not for a release as hyped at this and something they are using crowd funding for.
Take a moment and think about every re-release of the show that has come from the lying teeth of FUNi. Besides the Level sets attempt, what did you honestly expect?
Ok, now this is just making my head spin because we just have that one trailer which i don't think is exactly what the release will be. Unless i am missing something because i am having too high of expectations about it.
Yeah, I gave up on FUNi a long time ago and quit buying from them. However, the announcement of said release and comments from a FUNi rep gave me a slimmer of hope, but now the cats out of the bag. Accept it or don’t, the choice is yours. The longer you keep hoping the more disappointed you’ll be. My 0.02.
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Soppa Saiyjins from Dorgou Ballru Zetto is my favorite transformation everah, especially when Trounksoru did it in front of Seru and when Bejita did it when he faced Jingonigen-hachigo. But for real, I use the FUNi pronunciation. - Soppa Saia People
AnimeMaakuo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:56 pm
Take a moment and think about every re-release of the show that has come from the lying teeth of FUNi. Besides the Level sets attempt, what did you honestly expect?
Ok, now this is just making my head spin because we just have that one trailer which i don't think is exactly what the release will be. Unless i am missing something because i am having too high of expectations about it.
Believe what you want *shrug*. I gave up on FUNi a long time ago and quit buying from them. I won’t lie, the announcement of this release and the words from a FUNi rep gave me a slimmer of hope, but the cats out of the bag and the footage is shit. The longer you keep hoping the more disappointed you’ll be. My 0.02.
Eh it was just a momentary feeling of brief fleeting optimism i had, but i may as well just face the music now that this isn't really going to be a proper remastered HD release.
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DB collection related goals as of now:
1.) Find decent priced copy of Dragon Box Z Vol. 4 (Done)
linkdude20002001 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:11 pm
No, he said this new set would use the same film prints as the Levels sets (and the HD bricks). Which is what this set is. No false claims that I can see.
That was AnimeMaauko I believe, not Geekdom.
Baggie_Saiyan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:15 pm
Packaging itself is literally a black box! Like jesus. This release has to be a legitimate joke! Only explanation.
I like the packaging in that it feels upmarket and chic, formal. It's literally the only part about the boxset that actually lives up to the occasion for which it was created.
Funnily enough though I was thinking instead of the "30th Anniversary Blu-Rays" we should start calling these Black Bricks. Because the only thing worse than an Orange Brick is a BURNT Orange Brick!
SuperSaiyaManZ94 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:00 pm
Ok, now this is just making my head spin because we just have that one trailer which i don't think is exactly what the release will be. Unless i am missing something because i am having too high of expectations about it.
In any case you still have a right to be frustrated if that idea is true because then Funimation has used footage that is not indicative of this release to advertise said release!
Soppa Saiyjins from Dorgou Ballru Zetto is my favorite transformation everah, especially when Trounksoru did it in front of Seru and when Bejita did it when he faced Jingonigen-hachigo. But for real, I use the FUNi pronunciation. - Soppa Saia People
Honestly, if you're really serious about getting it I would wait until it reaches it's funding goal. Maybe after that they might actually put out a decent trailer, as some are speculating that the footage shown isn't what the actual footage will be since they need the reservations to prove to Toei to give them the better masters. Of course who knows if that's true or not. Personally, I'd tell you to save your money or put that money into obtaining the Dragon Boxes.
How much can the Dragon Box sets be had for these days? I would be $600 for them
Depends on how long and patience you want to be. If you want it all right now then yeah you'll probably looking around $600-$800 for the whole set. If you're now in a hurry then you can wait for good deals to present themselves. I bought box 7 for $4 at a video game convention then a few months later was able to get box 5 for about $40 off eBay. It certainly takes a lot longer, but you can find them for good prices if you wait and look long enough.
Where can I get the complete set of dragon boxes for 600-800? From what I've seen on ebay and amazon that's the price for a single box set not the whole series.
AnimeMaakuo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2019 10:11 pm
BLACK BRICKS - THAT IS SO FUNNY! GOOD ONE!
I second this. This release shall forever be known as the “Black Bricks” for me.
Spoiler:
JacobYBM wrote:
HeroR wrote:
JacobYBM wrote:The comic can stay behind the animated series because the animated series keeps dragging the story out, likely because they're both waiting for Toriyama to come up with the plot for another story arc. I imagine the comic will speed up once the animated series ends its adaption of Toriyama's notes and can move on to another Toriyama-outlined arc.
That doesn't make sense since the Toriyama finished writing the Future Trunks Saga back in February. Why would they need to drag when Toriyama had months to write a follow up and the anime was still in the Champa Saga during that time.
And it weird to hear about padding in the anime when Chapter 16 had the padding of Future Majin Buu that could have been skipped.
This is the same guy who would do an entire week's worth of work in a single night just to be able to procrastinate for a week and do nothing but watch movies or build models. Logic does not apply to Toriyama Akira. He has evolved past it.
Kanassa wrote:
UltimateGohan wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
They can call him in when the time comes. I can see it now...
Gohan: You're a super hero too? THIS LOOKS LIKE A JOB FOR THE GREAT SAIYAMAN! *Dresses up*
Beerus: That's just st-
Zeno: Wow, so cool!
Beerus: Genius! Go out and do justice, Great Saiyaman!
*Immediately jobs*
Jobbing, FOR THE SAKE OF JUSTICE! I'd accept a heartfelt moment of the two exchanging stories about being Super Heroes.