Funimation's 30th anniversary collectible home video release

[jaisonas]

If we slam Funi's social media hard enough, and put enough emphasis on "Yes, we will preorder this in a heartbeat if you guys just gave us the raw scan, zoomed in to mask the edges, but unless you do that, we have no interest", then we have a chance.

Make it clear that if they do this right, they'll get your dollars. Do your best to make them believe that if they do that, they'll get the full 6000 preorders, and have more than enough demand to push for a second run of some kind using these hypothetical masters.

It's a one in a million shot, but we've got nothing to lose, and everything to gain.

At this point i'd just ask about the raw film scan I dont really care about the tape marks or the round edges.
I like how they sharpen the fuck out of the image to get the lines to show better, but they end up looking worse than the raw...
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/133664

[funrush]

Omg I can’t get over how overly red that Gohan picture is. Buying this set is such a gamble.

I guess if anything it's more color-accurate & sharper than the DBoxes? Even if they DNRd it up.

Looking at the raws, some of these zooms just seem unnecessarily far. Like they get past the border curve/whatever, and then they just go a little bit farther for some reason.

[AnimeMaakuo]

So if you reserve the set, you get a bunch of extra stuff, and if they reach 3,000 orders, they'll ask for another 3,000? . I can't justify buying this until I see improvement!

[MetaMoss]

So, lots of new info since yesterday. And hey, Funimation actually acknowledged the pushback, so we're on the right track, I'd say.

To be very charitable to Funimation, they actually listened to fan feedback, as this release fixes what was the biggest complaint about their previous releases: the 16:9 cropping. The blog post has even convinced me that they're honestly trying to get the most image they can out of those 3rd-gen masters (except those exceptions pointed out). But, the cropping was only the most noticeable and egregious problem, as there's still the DNR and the color correcting. It seems like the colors are improved over the previous Blu-rays, but that doesn't mean they're good. They're still way overdoing the DNR, which is frustrating to see.

But now, I'm at a bit of a crossroads on whether or not to get this. The framing does seem to be done acceptably now, and that was my biggest complaint. Even with my other gripes, I'm at the point where I just want a complete release of DBZ that I can watch through. The last time I revisited the series (other than Kai) was with the Orange bricks over ten years ago, back when I didn't know better, and I didn't even make it that far. I could go hunting for the Dragon Boxes, which might be fun to do, but also likely erratic and could take years. At least with this, there isn't going to be essential parts of the picture chopped off.

My question is where is Toei in all this? To be honest, the only new remaster I could be really excited about would have to use Toei's masters. Since Funimation is doing yet another remaster using their materials on their own, it sounds to me like Toei's not going to be doing any remastering anytime soon.

[KillerCory]

So, I noticed that their blog regarding details of the cropping had a comments section and no one has posted any comments.

https://www.funimation.com/blog/2019/04 ... s-created/

So I decided to post something and it may be another place where we can raise our concerns.

[PremiumSalt]

Man, Twitter's character limit is immensely frustrating, I can't seem to write a message that fully and respectfully conveys my grievances to FUNi without going over the limit

[KBABZ]

My question is where is Toei in all this? To be honest, the only new remaster I could be really excited about would be have to use Toei's masters. Since Funimation is doing yet another remaster using their materials on their own, it sounds to me like Toei's not going to be doing any remastering anytime soon.

Yeah, I touched on that conclusion a few pages back funnily enough.

Man, Twitter's character limit is immensely frustrating, I can't seem to write a message that fully and respectfully conveys my grievances to FUNi without going over the limit

You can do multi-posts: just look for the + button in the corner; I made mine two posts long.

[Forte224]

So, I noticed that their blog regarding details of the cropping had a comments section and no one has posted any comments.

https://www.funimation.com/blog/2019/04 ... s-created/

So I decided to post something and it may be another place where we can raise our concerns.

I've tried but every time I start typing the page just refreshes. Even if I copy/paste from Word and hit post right away it refreshes and deletes the comment.

But yeah, that is a good place to do so.

[KillerCory]

So, I noticed that their blog regarding details of the cropping had a comments section and no one has posted any comments.

https://www.funimation.com/blog/2019/04 ... s-created/

So I decided to post something and it may be another place where we can raise our concerns.

I've tried but every time I start typing the page just refreshes. Even if I copy/paste from Word and hit post right away it refreshes and deletes the comment.

But yeah, that is a good place to do so.

"Your comment is awaiting moderation."
....

Watch they do not allow my "comment" to go through.

[Forte224]

So, I noticed that their blog regarding details of the cropping had a comments section and no one has posted any comments.

https://www.funimation.com/blog/2019/04 ... s-created/

So I decided to post something and it may be another place where we can raise our concerns.

I've tried but every time I start typing the page just refreshes. Even if I copy/paste from Word and hit post right away it refreshes and deletes the comment.

But yeah, that is a good place to do so.

"Your comment is awaiting moderation."
....

Watch they do not allow my "comment" to go through.

I can't even get that far.

[MadSpecialist]

Thanks everyone, retried with a VPN and saw the post. For anybody else that also can't access them normally, here are all of the comparison images:

Almost! Those are the low-rez versions. If you remove the bit of the image URL that determines the resolution, you get the full 1080-sized versions!

Cheers, noticed that but thought their resized images were good enough for general viewing on the forum. I know they've been posted but if it helps, here's a single Drive link to the uncompressed comparison images:

Spoiler:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1eNFri ... 2s4gfLcOij

[KillerCory]

I've tried but every time I start typing the page just refreshes. Even if I copy/paste from Word and hit post right away it refreshes and deletes the comment.

But yeah, that is a good place to do so.

"Your comment is awaiting moderation."
....

Watch they do not allow my "comment" to go through.

I can't even get that far.

First you need to have an account which is free. Then you need a user name (which you set in the account page).
THEN, you can finally post a comment. I was using google chrome, not sure if that helped.

This is what I posted:
Thank you for posting this additional information. It is a very positive thing that you are seeing fan feedback and responding.

I understand your reasons for the required cropping to keep a constant 4:3 aspect ratio and appreciate the details.

However, something many of us do not understand is why you would apply so much noise reduction to the film. In the comparison screenshots you provided you can see that a lot of details and natural colors of the original picture are lost.

I know many fans (myself included) would pre-order this set immediately if DNR was not used in this release.

Thank you,
Dorgann (DB Fan since 1997)
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[KBABZ]

First you need to have an account which is free. Then you need a user name (which you set in the account page).
THEN, you can finally post a comment. I was using google chrome, not sure if that helped.

This is what I posted:
Thank you for posting this additional information. It is a very positive thing that you are seeing fan feedback and responding.

I understand your reasons for the required cropping to keep a constant 4:3 aspect ratio and appreciate the details.

However, something many of us do not understand is why you would apply so much noise reduction to the film. In the comparison screenshots you provided you can see that a lot of details and natural colors of the original picture are lost.

I know many fans (myself included) would pre-order this set immediately if DNR was not used in this release.

Thank you,
Dorgann (DB Fan since 1997)
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I think that was well-worded!

[PremiumSalt]

Man, Twitter's character limit is immensely frustrating, I can't seem to write a message that fully and respectfully conveys my grievances to FUNi without going over the limit

You can do multi-posts: just look for the + button in the corner; I made mine two posts long.

Thanks, didn't consider that. Tweeted at them, tried to keep it respectful: https://twitter.com/PremiumSalt_/status ... 4751717376

(As you can see, I've literally never used my Twitter)

So, I noticed that their blog regarding details of the cropping had a comments section and no one has posted any comments.

https://www.funimation.com/blog/2019/04 ... s-created/

So I decided to post something and it may be another place where we can raise our concerns.

I've tried but every time I start typing the page just refreshes. Even if I copy/paste from Word and hit post right away it refreshes and deletes the comment.

But yeah, that is a good place to do so.

Do you have a username linked to your account? I was having difficulties until I linked one, then it worked just fine.

[Forte224]

"Your comment is awaiting moderation."
....

Watch they do not allow my "comment" to go through.

I can't even get that far.

First you need to have an account which is free. Then you need a user name (which you set in the account page).
THEN, you can finally post a comment. I was using google chrome, not sure if that helped.

This is what I posted:
Thank you for posting this additional information. It is a very positive thing that you are seeing fan feedback and responding.

I understand your reasons for the required cropping to keep a constant 4:3 aspect ratio and appreciate the details.

However, something many of us do not understand is why you would apply so much noise reduction to the film. In the comparison screenshots you provided you can see that a lot of details and natural colors of the original picture are lost.

I know many fans (myself included) would pre-order this set immediately if DNR was not used in this release.

Thank you,
Dorgann (DB Fan since 1997)
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I have all of those things. Account and username both. I'm trying to make a new account under a new email now that I now the comment section works, but it's now not letting me make a username. Their site seems kind of buggy, for me anyway. Oh, and I'm using Chrome too.

I like the comment you wrote.

[KillerCory]

I can't even get that far.

First you need to have an account which is free. Then you need a user name (which you set in the account page).
THEN, you can finally post a comment. I was using google chrome, not sure if that helped.

This is what I posted:
Thank you for posting this additional information. It is a very positive thing that you are seeing fan feedback and responding.

I understand your reasons for the required cropping to keep a constant 4:3 aspect ratio and appreciate the details.

However, something many of us do not understand is why you would apply so much noise reduction to the film. In the comparison screenshots you provided you can see that a lot of details and natural colors of the original picture are lost.

I know many fans (myself included) would pre-order this set immediately if DNR was not used in this release.

Thank you,
Dorgann (DB Fan since 1997)
----------------------------------------

I have all of those things. Account and username both. I'm trying to make a new account under a new email now that I now the comment section works, but it's now not letting me make a username. Their site seems kind of buggy, for me anyway. Oh, and I'm using Chrome too.

I like the comment you wrote.

Thanks! I tried to be polite but also get the point across.
I also had username issues, then it just magically worked after trying a few times..

[Forte224]

First you need to have an account which is free. Then you need a user name (which you set in the account page).
THEN, you can finally post a comment. I was using google chrome, not sure if that helped.

This is what I posted:
Thank you for posting this additional information. It is a very positive thing that you are seeing fan feedback and responding.

I understand your reasons for the required cropping to keep a constant 4:3 aspect ratio and appreciate the details.

However, something many of us do not understand is why you would apply so much noise reduction to the film. In the comparison screenshots you provided you can see that a lot of details and natural colors of the original picture are lost.

I know many fans (myself included) would pre-order this set immediately if DNR was not used in this release.

Thank you,
Dorgann (DB Fan since 1997)
----------------------------------------

I have all of those things. Account and username both. I'm trying to make a new account under a new email now that I now the comment section works, but it's now not letting me make a username. Their site seems kind of buggy, for me anyway. Oh, and I'm using Chrome too.

I like the comment you wrote.

Thanks! I tried to be polite but also get the point across.
I also had username issues, then it just magically worked after trying a few times..

I used something other than Chrome and now it worked. My comment is awaiting moderation now too. My post wasn't as well worded as yours I don't think (partly because I was trying to avoid making a carbon copy of yours) but I think it was as polite and respectful. Even if moderation doesn't let it go through, at least somebody will see it.

EDIT: Pre-orders shot up to 2771 as of 11:00.

[KillerCory]

First you need to have an account which is free. Then you need a user name (which you set in the account page).
THEN, you can finally post a comment. I was using google chrome, not sure if that helped.

This is what I posted:
Thank you for posting this additional information. It is a very positive thing that you are seeing fan feedback and responding.

I understand your reasons for the required cropping to keep a constant 4:3 aspect ratio and appreciate the details.

However, something many of us do not understand is why you would apply so much noise reduction to the film. In the comparison screenshots you provided you can see that a lot of details and natural colors of the original picture are lost.

I know many fans (myself included) would pre-order this set immediately if DNR was not used in this release.

Thank you,
Dorgann (DB Fan since 1997)
----------------------------------------

I think that was well-worded!

Thank you !

[MetaMoss]

I've just started lurking in Funimation's official Discord channel, and there's a lot of discussion on this set. The Funimation reps there are pointing people towards funimation.com/support, saying that'll be the easiest way to get word to "decision makers".

[Forte224]

I've just started lurking in Funimation's official Discord channel, and there's a lot of discussion on this set. The Funimation reps there are pointing people towards funimation.com/support, saying that'll be the easiest way to get word to "decision makers".

Well that's good to know. I've already sent messages through there, hopefully more of us will too!

For those that do, go to that support page, and scroll to the bottom to send a message. Personally, for the category I chose "General" and then "Product Concerns".