"(Super) Dragon Ball Heroes" Official Discussion Thread

[Noitsnothim]

Is it me or did it feel like forever for SDBH to update and get UM8 ?

[Dragotaker]

Is it me or did it feel like forever for SDBH to update and get UM8 ?

It kinda always feels like that for me personally, even though it's just about 2 months between each and after a month and a half we have the leaks that tells us everything important that is coming to the game on the release date, this time around we didn't have anything we already didn't know so i hope something happens on the game now that makes up for it.

[Kogath]

All three SEC are up on the official card list.

The Goku card is real interesting. Transforms into a different form depending on your team's combined battle power. If he transforms into UI Goku, he will use Ultimate Instinct Kamehameha. Part after that is a little hard to read, but mentions something about triple damage and permanently increases your guard to 15,000. Also has an ability to restore energy and gain 5,000 power after every clash as an attacker. Winning the clash improves the effect even more.

Xeno Gogeta summons Xeno Vegito after the second round for an attack. Does more damage and permanently sets your enemy's guard to 1 if you have 8 or more energy. First part of the ability is a bit too hard for me to translate, but the rest mentions a permanent +10,000 power bonus when attacking, and if you have 3 or more energy than the enemy team, it will ignore guard and damage mitigation effects.

Kamioren enters the symbol drawing mode after the second round when attacking which ignores guard (I think?) and steals HP/damages the enemy. Ability looks like you won't take damage for one round if your team's combined battle power is over 20,000 when attacking. When defending, you won't take over 2,000 damage.

Sorry for my extremely rusty Japanese skills, haha, and apologies if I goofed up on any of em. I'm sure someone better with Japanese will give better details.

EDIT: They also did a CM for the new SEC; https://youtu.be/e2z3UXr-MCE

Also noticing a countdown timer on the main site. Something happening in four and a half hours from now (midnight of the 9th, Pacific time) concerning UM8.

EDIT2: Countdown was dependent of your computer's clock. Changed mine to Japanese time and the countdown changed, basically announcing that UM8 officially started.

[Rakurai]

All three SEC are up on the official card list.

The Goku card is real interesting. Transforms into a different form depending on your team's combined battle power. If he transforms into UI Goku, he will use Ultimate Instinct Kamehameha. Part after that is a little hard to read, but mentions something about triple damage and permanently increases your guard to 15,000. Also has an ability to restore energy and gain 5,000 power after every clash as an attacker. Winning the clash improves the effect even more.

Xeno Gogeta summons Xeno Vegito after the second round for an attack. Does more damage and permanently sets your enemy's guard to 1 if you have 8 or more energy. First part of the ability is a bit too hard for me to translate, but the rest mentions a permanent +10,000 power bonus when attacking, and if you have 3 or more energy than the enemy team, it will ignore guard and damage mitigation effects.

Kamioren enters the symbol drawing mode after the second round when attacking which ignores guard (I think?) and steals HP/damages the enemy. Ability looks like you won't take damage for one round if your team's combined battle power is over 20,000 when attacking. When defending, you won't take over 2,000 damage.

Sorry for my extremely rusty Japanese skills, haha, and apologies if I goofed up on any of em. I'm sure someone better with Japanese will give better details.

G4 summons V4 after Round 2 and they wreak great damage to the opponent immediately after summon. (Video of SEC UM8 XG4 here.) LOVE that combo b/w G4 and V4!

Damage to enemy is tripled permanently after transformation to UI and that 15000+ guard.

Completing the CAA permanently removes steals the enemy's guard in addition to stealing the enemy's HP.

Other than that, you nailed the other details sufficiently.

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As usual, I'll continue to do the UM8 story translations this weekend if there are any uploaded.

[Noitsnothim]

All three SEC are up on the official card list.

The Goku card is real interesting. Transforms into a different form depending on your team's combined battle power. If he transforms into UI Goku, he will use Ultimate Instinct Kamehameha. Part after that is a little hard to read, but mentions something about triple damage and permanently increases your guard to 15,000. Also has an ability to restore energy and gain 5,000 power after every clash as an attacker. Winning the clash improves the effect even more.

Xeno Gogeta summons Xeno Vegito after the second round for an attack. Does more damage and permanently sets your enemy's guard to 1 if you have 8 or more energy. First part of the ability is a bit too hard for me to translate, but the rest mentions a permanent +10,000 power bonus when attacking, and if you have 3 or more energy than the enemy team, it will ignore guard and damage mitigation effects.

Kamioren enters the symbol drawing mode after the second round when attacking which ignores guard (I think?) and steals HP/damages the enemy. Ability looks like you won't take damage for one round if your team's combined battle power is over 20,000 when attacking. When defending, you won't take over 2,000 damage.

Sorry for my extremely rusty Japanese skills, haha, and apologies if I goofed up on any of em. I'm sure someone better with Japanese will give better details.

G4 summons V4 after Round 2 and they wreak great damage to the opponent immediately after summon. (Video of SEC UM8 XG4 here.) LOVE that combo b/w G4 and V4!

Damage to enemy is tripled permanently after transformation to UI and that 15000+ guard.

Completing the CAA permanently removes steals the enemy's guard in addition to stealing the enemy's HP.

Other than that, you nailed the other details sufficiently.

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As usual, I'll continue to do the UM8 story translations this weekend if there are any uploaded.

Pretty weird that G4 (xeno) summons V4 (Xeno) thought it would Vegito SS4 xeno summoning GT SS4 Gogeta

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

G4 summons V4 after Round 2 and they wreak great damage to the opponent immediately after summon. (Video of SEC UM8 XG4 here.) LOVE that combo b/w G4 and V4!

Damage to enemy is tripled permanently after transformation to UI and that 15000+ guard.

Completing the CAA permanently removes steals the enemy's guard in addition to stealing the enemy's HP.

Other than that, you nailed the other details sufficiently.

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As usual, I'll continue to do the UM8 story translations this weekend if there are any uploaded.

Talk about overkill. It does look freaking amazing though.

Based on my experience with World Mission, I'd say that Gogeta Xeno is insane.

[Noitsnothim]

NEXT uploaded !!!
Universal conflict saga new chapter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsZZ5L57NvI

Demon Realm saga stuff: Pt. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJueX96fbU Pt.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hapcWf7KJc
Pt.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 5 (the conclusion of this new chapter) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj28YlwrskU

[mahakaishin1991]

NEXT uploaded !!!
Universal conflict saga new chapter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsZZ5L57NvI

Demon Realm saga stuff: Pt. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJueX96fbU Pt.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hapcWf7KJc
Pt.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 5 (the conclusion of this new chapter) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj28YlwrskU

So what does Mechikabura do at the end? No cliffhanger for next time?

[Gohan123]

NEXT uploaded !!!
Universal conflict saga new chapter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsZZ5L57NvI

Demon Realm saga stuff: Pt. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJueX96fbU Pt.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hapcWf7KJc
Pt.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 5 (the conclusion of this new chapter) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj28YlwrskU

Can someone translate this ?

[Zamasu55]

In the arcade game none of the U3 warriors appear, strange.

Anyway, now they're heading to Universe 7. Hope we'll see 17 and Gohan fight again.

[Rakurai]

NEXT uploaded !!!
Universal conflict saga new chapter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsZZ5L57NvI

Demon Realm saga stuff: Pt. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJueX96fbU Pt.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hapcWf7KJc
Pt.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 5 (the conclusion of this new chapter) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj28YlwrskU

Can someone translate this ?

I'll try to get these translations done this weekend. Here's the summary part with GT Gogeta breaking out:

• Battle w/ GT Gotenks
• Roberu points out that they can use the Blutz wave generator (most likely the one GT Bulma brought for Vegeta), specifically on XGohan. I'm guessing that's what she meant on the UM7 cliffhanger. I can just imagine Roberu driving that thing.
• XVegeta recognizes the Blutz wave generator and says XGohan can use it to become a SSJ4.
• After the battle with Dark Gogeta (where SSJ4 XGohan is provided as support), a part of GT Gogeta comes out from Dark Gogeta. Love the malformed Gogeta look. At this point, it's GT Gogeta in control.
• Malformed Gogeta decides to beat Super Yi Xing Long with this form. Well at least he has his priorities right lol.
• Malformed Gogeta is just referred to as Gogeta but can use Dark Big Bang Kamehameha.
• Afterwards, he separates from Fin but turns out Fin can copy the power again and becomes Dark Gogeta.
• GT Gogeta beats Dark Gogeta, comments that the original is basically better than the copy.
• Towa plays the excuse that Fin is still growing, and he'll only continue to grow stronger.

[Grimlock]

[*]XVegeta recognizes the Blutz wave generator and says XGohan can use it to become a SSJ4.

He recognized the machine? Damn, I'm telling you, I use wiki as my source, he's still not GT Vegeta!111!11!!!

Anyway, I'd prefer them to pull Gohan's tail out just like Goku's, it makes his form feels more "natural" in comparison to Vegeta's case.

[Dark_Tzitzimine]

NEXT uploaded !!!
Universal conflict saga new chapter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsZZ5L57NvI

Demon Realm saga stuff: Pt. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJueX96fbU Pt.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hapcWf7KJc
Pt.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 5 (the conclusion of this new chapter) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj28YlwrskU

Can someone translate this ?

I'll try to get these translations done this weekend. Here's the summary part with GT Gogeta breaking out:

• Battle w/ GT Gotenks
• Roberu points out that they can use the Blutz wave generator (most likely the one GT Bulma brought for Vegeta), specifically on XGohan. I'm guessing that's what she meant on the UM7 cliffhanger. I can just imagine Roberu driving that thing.
• XVegeta recognizes the Blutz wave generator and says XGohan can use it to become a SSJ4.
• After the battle with Dark Gogeta (where SSJ4 XGohan is provided as support), a part of GT Gogeta comes out from Dark Gogeta. Love the malformed Gogeta look. At this point, it's GT Gogeta in control.
• Malformed Gogeta decides to beat Super Yi Xing Long with this form. Well at least he has his priorities right lol.
• Malformed Gogeta is just referred to as Gogeta but can use Dark Big Bang Kamehameha.
• Afterwards, he separates from Fin but turns out Fin can copy the power again and becomes Dark Gogeta.
• GT Gogeta beats Dark Gogeta, comments that the original is basically better than the copy.
• Towa plays the excuse that Fin is still growing, and he'll only continue to grow stronger.

Well, that puts to rest my concerns about them punking GT Gogeta to prop up Fin, and makes clear that GT Gogeta is still on an entire league on his own (I can't help but wonder how he measures to Gogeta Xeno though).

And yeah, the evidence just keeps piling up about the Xeno Versions having lived through GT's events.

Thanks for the summary!

[Grand Marshal 1]

NEXT uploaded !!!
Universal conflict saga new chapter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsZZ5L57NvI

Demon Realm saga stuff: Pt. 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGJueX96fbU Pt.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hapcWf7KJc
Pt.3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hgQF5NCHak Pt. 5 (the conclusion of this new chapter) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj28YlwrskU

Can someone translate this ?

I'll try to get these translations done this weekend. Here's the summary part with GT Gogeta breaking out:

• Battle w/ GT Gotenks
• Roberu points out that they can use the Blutz wave generator (most likely the one GT Bulma brought for Vegeta), specifically on XGohan. I'm guessing that's what she meant on the UM7 cliffhanger. I can just imagine Roberu driving that thing.
• XVegeta recognizes the Blutz wave generator and says XGohan can use it to become a SSJ4.
• After the battle with Dark Gogeta (where SSJ4 XGohan is provided as support), a part of GT Gogeta comes out from Dark Gogeta. Love the malformed Gogeta look. At this point, it's GT Gogeta in control.
• Malformed Gogeta decides to beat Super Yi Xing Long with this form. Well at least he has his priorities right lol.
• Malformed Gogeta is just referred to as Gogeta but can use Dark Big Bang Kamehameha.
• Afterwards, he separates from Fin but turns out Fin can copy the power again and becomes Dark Gogeta.
• GT Gogeta beats Dark Gogeta, comments that the original is basically better than the copy.
• Towa plays the excuse that Fin is still growing, and he'll only continue to grow stronger.

I know get an idea with Fin's level of power. So initially, while Dark Gogeta he fights against SSJ4s Vegeta:Xeno, Gohan:Xeno and Goku:Xeno (I assume?). Also, is Robelu assisting the good guys, or did I get something wrong?

Anyway, what I had in mind happened and Gogeta tried to separate himself from Fin, and defeats Omega who is just sitting there lol. But he escapes Fin, with the latter becoming Dark Gogeta, due to lesrning his power, but Gogeta defeats him. So Fin is like Omega in this form, after splitting up in terms of power, or simply below Gogeta, from your understanding of course?

[Grand Marshal 1]

Btw, is Chamel an ally to Demigra and Robelu? You did tell me that he was kind of opposing Mechikabura's rule, but is he actually such an enemy that he causes a war between the demons? Because, if I recall correctly, Chamel has fought with Shrrom who is allegiant to Mechikabura.

It is kinda confusing, so excuse me for wasting your time on explaining.

[S3 Hendrix]

Btw, is Chamel an ally to Demigra and Robelu? You did tell me that he was kind of opposing Mechikabura's rule, but is he actually such an enemy that he causes a war between the demons? Because, if I recall correctly, Chamel has fought with Shrrom who is allegiant to Mechikabura.

It is kinda confusing, so excuse me for wasting your time on explaining.

Chamel is a manga only character, other wise in game chamel/demon race hero type represents you. But yes in the manga continuity it would seem chamel has more of an allegiance to demigra and the time patrol than he does mechikabura and the demon realm,even see him using the draw technique on the other demon’s so Goku Xeno And Vegeta Xeno could fuse .

[Grand Marshal 1]

Btw, is Chamel an ally to Demigra and Robelu? You did tell me that he was kind of opposing Mechikabura's rule, but is he actually such an enemy that he causes a war between the demons? Because, if I recall correctly, Chamel has fought with Shrrom who is allegiant to Mechikabura.

It is kinda confusing, so excuse me for wasting your time on explaining.

Chamel is a manga only character, other wise in game chamel/demon race hero type represents you. But yes in the manga continuity it would seem chamel has more of an allegiance to demigra and the time patrol than he does mechikabura and the demon realm,even see him using the draw technique on the other demon’s so Goku Xeno And Vegeta Xeno could fuse .

I see. Interesting. Thank you for sharing this with me. I now know how to divide the demons in a way.

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

If GT Gogeta can beat Dark Gogeta I guess Fin added pretty much nothing to his power. Gogeta was far stronger than Fin and only got absorbed due to being caught off guard or something by his abilities I guess.

[Grand Marshal 1]

If GT Gogeta can beat Dark Gogeta I guess Fin added pretty much nothing to his power. Gogeta was far stronger than Fin and only got absorbed due to being caught off guard or something by his abilities I guess.

Yeah, I agree. So basically, Fin should be around Super Buu level or something like that. Adding nothing to GT whatsoever. Always in terms of power.

[Rakurai]

Well, that puts to rest my concerns about them punking GT Gogeta to prop up Fin, and makes clear that GT Gogeta is still on an entire league on his own (I can't help but wonder how he measures to Gogeta Xeno though).

And yeah, the evidence just keeps piling up about the Xeno Versions having lived through GT's events.

Thanks for the summary!

Yeah to me it feels like they glorified GT G4 here quite a bit (not that I mind). Which is not too surprising, he's an extremely popular character and always portrayed/marketed as one of the strongest characters in the entire DB series.

I know get an idea with Fin's level of power. So initially, while Dark Gogeta he fights against SSJ4s Vegeta:Xeno, Gohan:Xeno and Goku:Xeno (I assume?). Also, is Robelu assisting the good guys, or did I get something wrong?

Anyway, what I had in mind happened and Gogeta tried to separate himself from Fin, and defeats Omega who is just sitting there lol. But he escapes Fin, with the latter becoming Dark Gogeta, due to lesrning his power, but Gogeta defeats him. So Fin is like Omega in this form, after splitting up in terms of power, or simply below Gogeta, from your understanding of course?

Demigra (and by extension, Roberu) are in a temporary truce with the Time Patrol to go against Mechikaboola.

Dark Gogeta def fights against SSJ4 XGohan since that's the whole point of his transformation and he's provided as support. As for SSJ4 XGoku/Vegeta, they weren't SSJ4 in the cutscene dialogue so it's not 100% clear but I would assume they were fighting seriously at the very least. It's like CC Goku and Vegeta vs Cumber in UM3, they weren't shown as SSB in the dialogue but they were clearly losing and fused to become SSB Vegetto so it's logical to assume they were presumably fighting at somewhere near their peak as SSBs.

My impression is that Dark Gogeta is Fin with some, but not all, of GT G4's power, according to XVegeta Fin powered up a lot after absorbing him, and XGoku commented that Fin was a pretty strong guy to begin with.

G4 starts to break free after fighting the Time Patrol with SSJ4 XGohan so Dark Gogeta might've been weakened, but G4 makes it seem as if Fin never had what it took to control him ("Hmmph, did you really think you could absorb/control me with the likes of this?").

Also you don't need to excuse yourself when asking questions in this thread. Info gets scattered easily in threads so it's reasonable to have difficulty in finding what you wanna know.

If GT Gogeta can beat Dark Gogeta I guess Fin added pretty much nothing to his power. Gogeta was far stronger than Fin and only got absorbed due to being caught off guard or something by his abilities I guess.

Yeah, I agree. So basically, Fin should be around Super Buu level or something like that. Adding nothing to GT whatsoever. Always in terms of power.

I disagree, in UM7 XGoku said that Fin had incredible power so most likely above Super Buu but below the Time Patrol. Also in the manga he managed to subdue G4 for a little while so I don't think the game portrays him to be as weak as Super Buu at the very least.