The truth for most characters isn't it.
However it's going to be interesting to see what Moro is made of with his full magic power back. To add, he is going to increase his Ki by absorbing all the powers of planet Namek too!!!
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The truth for most characters isn't it.
Although Boo’s special abilities let him overcome some of Moro’s moves, I think he is definitely more powerful than Moro, even after he grew stronger after absorbing Goku and Vegeta’s energy. It’s much easier to swallow it when you consider that Freeza, No. 17 and Gohan can rival SSBlue nowadays. If Boo started better than them, it’s likely that his unlocked potential would be greater as well.ssj3kakarot wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 1:45 pm Even with everything it's hard for me to say that Buu has surpassed Goku and Vegeta in terms of power output. It seems its more due to the magic vs magic fight that is giving him the main advantage.
I disagree. Sidra managed to block a blast from Beerus, powerful enough to perhaps take out or at least seriously damage a fellow GoD, with his barrier is if it were nothing. Rummush's roar paralysed every single GoD in the arena, Beerus included. Belmod's card trick damaged everyone as well.
It’s difficult to tell, because he mostly depends on his magic, but considering he managed to restore his magic to its fullest, he can power-up as long as there is energy left for him to absorb. Right now, he has absorbed a paired energy of SSBlue and a lot of energy from Namek and its inhabitants.SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 1:02 pm I'm not keeping up with the manga, how is Moro compared to people like Black or Zamasu?
So far there is no way to know. He was trashed by SSBE Vegeta and held the advantage over SSG Vegeta, then absorbed both his and Goku's ki. Both versions of Vegeta that fought Moro are respectively weaker and stronger than manga Merged Zamasu, and by extension Black and Zamasu.SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 1:02 pm I'm not keeping up with the manga, how is Moro compared to people like Black or Zamasu?
God I hope not.Koitsukai wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 1:31 pm Buu was stated to have become stronger after recovering his memories. But Moro isn't anything special, aside of his magical abilities. Although in the next chapter he might be stated to be stronger than Jiren, I wouldn't place Buu nowhere near SSB as of now.
Regardless of what happened the narration stated Beerus and Quitela are the top. Despite not facing everyone in the battle royale, they still faced the gods who KO'd other gods so therefore they were both knocking out the stronger gods. Regardless of what attacks the other gods through at them Beerus and Quitela were still there at the end which means nothing the other gods did were enough to stop them. They are the top class among the gods. This is the only canon we got in comparison among gods.Thani wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 7:57 amI disagree. Sidra managed to block a blast from Beerus, powerful enough to perhaps take out or at least seriously damage a fellow GoD, with his barrier is if it were nothing. Rummush's roar paralysed every single GoD in the arena, Beerus included. Belmod's card trick damaged everyone as well.
It was a Battle Royale, everyone were fighting everyone, and most of the fighting was actually offscreen. We never saw who eliminated whom with the exception of Beerus and Quitela, both of whom only delivered the final blow to their opponents. They lasted until the end, but it wasn't a faithful 1x1, so it's hardly a gauge of power. Of endurance and cunning, sure, but not necessarily power. Belmod exemplified this perfectly when he simply faked defeat instead of keeping fighting, so he would easily pick apart the last GoD and win the whole thing if Grand Priest hadn't stopped it.
The narration only stated they managed to see the end of it. Both of them were very hurt overall and barely standing, and so were everyone else by the time the match ended. There is absolutely no statement how it went, and we SAW the chaos of it all - people were getting sucker punched left and right. Beerus and Quitela were just seen subduing two enemies that could have spent the whole fight getting the shit beaten out of them by other gods, the same that probably happened to them both. They can be on top, sure, but the gap is not as large as people think.Miracles wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 3:01 pmRegardless of what happened the narration stated Beerus and Quitela are the top. Despite not facing everyone in the battle royale, they still faced the gods who KO'd other gods so therefore they were both knocking out the stronger gods. Regardless of what attacks the other gods through at them Beerus and Quitela were still there at the end which means nothing the other gods did were enough to stop them. They are the top class among the gods. This is the only canon we got in comparison among gods.Thani wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 7:57 amI disagree. Sidra managed to block a blast from Beerus, powerful enough to perhaps take out or at least seriously damage a fellow GoD, with his barrier is if it were nothing. Rummush's roar paralysed every single GoD in the arena, Beerus included. Belmod's card trick damaged everyone as well.
It was a Battle Royale, everyone were fighting everyone, and most of the fighting was actually offscreen. We never saw who eliminated whom with the exception of Beerus and Quitela, both of whom only delivered the final blow to their opponents. They lasted until the end, but it wasn't a faithful 1x1, so it's hardly a gauge of power. Of endurance and cunning, sure, but not necessarily power. Belmod exemplified this perfectly when he simply faked defeat instead of keeping fighting, so he would easily pick apart the last GoD and win the whole thing if Grand Priest hadn't stopped it.
Being hurt does not negate Beerus and Quitela from being the strongest. And no one is arguing the difference in strength whether it be small or much [Tho Beerus was handling ALL the gods at once and almost killed a handful by himself is DAMNING!]. The fact is the gods that KO'd other gods were KO'd by Beerus and Quitela. It was a domino effect of who was strongest. Then add to the fact the narration implied both were competing for the strongest twice. So it is Beerus and Quitela > everyone else according to the only official/canon we got so far.Thani wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 3:23 pmThe narration only stated they managed to see the end of it. Both of them were very hurt overall and barely standing, and so were everyone else by the time the match ended. There is absolutely no statement how it went, and we SAW the chaos of it all - people were getting sucker punched left and right. Beerus and Quitela were just seen subduing two enemies that could have spent the whole fight getting the shit beaten out of them by other gods, the same that probably happened to them both. They can be on top, sure, but the gap is not as large as people think.Miracles wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 3:01 pmRegardless of what happened the narration stated Beerus and Quitela are the top. Despite not facing everyone in the battle royale, they still faced the gods who KO'd other gods so therefore they were both knocking out the stronger gods. Regardless of what attacks the other gods through at them Beerus and Quitela were still there at the end which means nothing the other gods did were enough to stop them. They are the top class among the gods. This is the only canon we got in comparison among gods.Thani wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 7:57 am
I disagree. Sidra managed to block a blast from Beerus, powerful enough to perhaps take out or at least seriously damage a fellow GoD, with his barrier is if it were nothing. Rummush's roar paralysed every single GoD in the arena, Beerus included. Belmod's card trick damaged everyone as well.
It was a Battle Royale, everyone were fighting everyone, and most of the fighting was actually offscreen. We never saw who eliminated whom with the exception of Beerus and Quitela, both of whom only delivered the final blow to their opponents. They lasted until the end, but it wasn't a faithful 1x1, so it's hardly a gauge of power. Of endurance and cunning, sure, but not necessarily power. Belmod exemplified this perfectly when he simply faked defeat instead of keeping fighting, so he would easily pick apart the last GoD and win the whole thing if Grand Priest hadn't stopped it.
In a melee combat, Moro was losing against SSG Vegeta, he only gained advantage after using the planet's life force to attack. Not to mention that since the beginning of the battle he was absorbing the power of Goku and VegetaThani wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 2:25 pmSo far there is no way to know. He was trashed by SSBE Vegeta and held the advantage over SSG Vegeta, then absorbed both his and Goku's ki. Both versions of Vegeta that fought Moro are respectively weaker and stronger than manga Merged Zamasu, and by extension Black and Zamasu.SupremeKai25 wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 1:02 pm I'm not keeping up with the manga, how is Moro compared to people like Black or Zamasu?
With his magic fully restored and the power of the planet empowering him, it's up in the air how strong he is. Buuuuut if he becomes at least able to fight SSBE Vegeta evenly, then he will be much stronger than M. Zamasu.
God I hope not.Koitsukai wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2019 1:31 pm Buu was stated to have become stronger after recovering his memories. But Moro isn't anything special, aside of his magical abilities. Although in the next chapter he might be stated to be stronger than Jiren, I wouldn't place Buu nowhere near SSB as of now.