The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:38 pm

Xeno Goku vs Kefla
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:12 pm

Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:38 pm Xeno Goku vs Kefla
Don't know how strong Xeno Goku is or what forms he has. He needs to be stronger than SSBKKx20 Goku to win.

------- More fights----

-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 1st Omen Goku
-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 2nd Omen Goku
-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 3rd Omen Goku

-Cell Games SS Goku and SS Gohan vs Dabura
-Nappa vs Raditz (say he survived Piccolo's attack, got a huge zenkai, became good and trained for a year)
-post-Buu SS Goku vs Perfect Cell
-Namek Goku(no SS), Namek Gohan, Namek Vegeta, Bardock and King Vegeta vs Namek Freeza
-Potential Unleashed Future Trunks(if his training wasn't interrumpted) vs Black Goku
-Pui Pui vs Ginyu

-This one is tricky:
Assuming 17 begun his training, that would put him as low SSB tier by the ToP, after he was resurrected, how strong was he when Buu woke up? could he been useful?
-17 vs Fat Buu
-17 vs Super Buu
-17 vs Buutenks/Buuhan?

or he still had a long way to go to be relevant again?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:30 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:12 pm
Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:38 pm Xeno Goku vs Kefla
Don't know how strong Xeno Goku is or what forms he has. He needs to be stronger than SSBKKx20 Goku to win.
So you're saying that you haven't seen Heroes?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Wed Feb 05, 2020 2:10 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:12 pm
Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:38 pm Xeno Goku vs Kefla
Don't know how strong Xeno Goku is or what forms he has. He needs to be stronger than SSBKKx20 Goku to win.

------- More fights----

-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 1st Omen Goku
-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 2nd Omen Goku
-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 3rd Omen Goku

-Cell Games SS Goku and SS Gohan vs Dabura
-Nappa vs Raditz (say he survived Piccolo's attack, got a huge zenkai, became good and trained for a year)
-post-Buu SS Goku vs Perfect Cell
-Namek Goku(no SS), Namek Gohan, Namek Vegeta, Bardock and King Vegeta vs Namek Freeza
-Potential Unleashed Future Trunks(if his training wasn't interrumpted) vs Black Goku
-Pui Pui vs Ginyu

-This one is tricky:
Assuming 17 begun his training, that would put him as low SSB tier by the ToP, after he was resurrected, how strong was he when Buu woke up? could he been useful?
-17 vs Fat Buu
-17 vs Super Buu
-17 vs Buutenks/Buuhan?

or he still had a long way to go to be relevant again?
SS1 Gogeta? He's not touching any UI Omen Goku at all.
Dabura kills them in seconds. He's SS2 tier.
Raditz.
I have only BoG SS1 Goku beating him after a hard fight.
All of them are fodder to Freeza when he goes 100%.
Goku Black easily.
I'll give this to Pui Pui.
I have 17 at the middle point between SS2 and SS3 so he won't be useful.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by BagetaSama » Wed Feb 05, 2020 9:27 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:12 pm
Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:38 pm Xeno Goku vs Kefla
Don't know how strong Xeno Goku is or what forms he has. He needs to be stronger than SSBKKx20 Goku to win.

------- More fights----

-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 1st Omen Goku
-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 2nd Omen Goku
-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 3rd Omen Goku

-Cell Games SS Goku and SS Gohan vs Dabura
-Nappa vs Raditz (say he survived Piccolo's attack, got a huge zenkai, became good and trained for a year)
-post-Buu SS Goku vs Perfect Cell
-Namek Goku(no SS), Namek Gohan, Namek Vegeta, Bardock and King Vegeta vs Namek Freeza
-Potential Unleashed Future Trunks(if his training wasn't interrumpted) vs Black Goku
-Pui Pui vs Ginyu

-This one is tricky:
Assuming 17 begun his training, that would put him as low SSB tier by the ToP, after he was resurrected, how strong was he when Buu woke up? could he been useful?
-17 vs Fat Buu
-17 vs Super Buu
-17 vs Buutenks/Buuhan?

or he still had a long way to go to be relevant again?
Gogeta beats the first two Omens but loses to the third.
The pair wins
Nappa still wins
Cell still wins
Freeza dominates them all
not sure
Ginyu beats Pui Pui

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 11:19 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:12 pm
Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:38 pm Xeno Goku vs Kefla
Don't know how strong Xeno Goku is or what forms he has. He needs to be stronger than SSBKKx20 Goku to win.

------- More fights----

-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 1st Omen Goku
-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 2nd Omen Goku
-DBS BR: Super Gogeta vs ToP 3rd Omen Goku

-Cell Games SS Goku and SS Gohan vs Dabura
-Nappa vs Raditz (say he survived Piccolo's attack, got a huge zenkai, became good and trained for a year)
-post-Buu SS Goku vs Perfect Cell
-Namek Goku(no SS), Namek Gohan, Namek Vegeta, Bardock and King Vegeta vs Namek Freeza
-Potential Unleashed Future Trunks(if his training wasn't interrumpted) vs Black Goku
-Pui Pui vs Ginyu

-This one is tricky:
Assuming 17 begun his training, that would put him as low SSB tier by the ToP, after he was resurrected, how strong was he when Buu woke up? could he been useful?
-17 vs Fat Buu
-17 vs Super Buu
-17 vs Buutenks/Buuhan?

or he still had a long way to go to be relevant again?
1. Gogeta loses to UI Omen Goku 3.
2. The father son duo win with mid difficulty.
3. Raditz got a near death zenkai, maybe rises to 3000-4000. Idk, I feel Nappa will still have the edge. But if he trained, we saw Gohan go from 5 to 2500. So, he might be around 6-7000. Then he slaughters his former comrade.
4. Goku wins with high difficulty.
5. The saiyans lose.
6. Trunks would probably be near god level by then, however if he doesn’t finish off Black soon, Black gets stronger and kills him.
7. Pui pui
8. I have a theory that 17 didn’t star training until after the Buu saga. I assume, he was relatively the same level he was. Probably died when super Buu killed everyone.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu Black » Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:58 am

Jiren vs Broly

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Post by p-hyvo » Thu Feb 06, 2020 10:27 am

Zamasu Black wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:58 am Jiren vs Broly
If Broly Is Just wrathful ssj, jiren Wind. If Broly Is ssjfp, he mops the floor with jiren's skull

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Thu Feb 06, 2020 11:43 am

Zamasu Black wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:58 am Jiren vs Broly
Jiren.

FPSS Broly's greatest feat was overwhelming SS Gogeta, who obviously LB Jiren, who actually landed hits on MUI Goku, would trash even harder.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Omgzord » Thu Feb 06, 2020 12:16 pm

Zamasu Black wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:58 am Jiren vs Broly
Broly is stronger than Beerus. Jiren is stronger than Belmod

Could go either way.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Sadala Elite » Thu Feb 06, 2020 5:05 pm

Zamasu Black wrote: Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:58 am Jiren vs Broly
MUI Goku > LB Jiren > SSB Gogeta > Full Power Broly >= Beerus

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu Black » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:42 am

Jiren does seem like he should be above Broly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:42 am

Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:38 pm Xeno Goku vs Kefla
Xeno Goku flicks in base and suppressed in kefla Is from dbs

If It Is kefla from heroes, he might Need ssj4 Gogeta to beat her (if it's prison Planet saga xeno Goku), but he would Need ssj4 anyway even if it's mechikabura saga xeno Goku

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Peach » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:10 pm

Buu Saga Yamcha, Krillin, or Tien vs. Namek Frieza

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Post by Sadala Elite » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:57 pm

Peach wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:10 pm Buu Saga Yamcha, Krillin, or Tien vs. Namek Frieza
I'd give it to the humans (barely). I dont think they're as weak as many in the fandom think.

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Post by p-hyvo » Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:34 am

Peach wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:10 pm Buu Saga Yamcha, Krillin, or Tien vs. Namek Frieza
I can see them winning, maybe via kikoho or kienzan

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lionel » Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:54 pm

Peach wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:10 pm Buu Saga Yamcha, Krillin, or Tien vs. Namek Frieza
I don't think they're at the point where they could handle Freeza. A generous estimate for Tenshinhan and Krillin would put them in the tens of millions as of the Buu arc, in my opinion. Yamcha would likely either have declined or remained levelled with his Cell arc power due to having retired after that incident was over.

Hey, if they had the Kaioken then it would be no problem. Unfortunately that's not the case since nice things are handled at the discretion of Toriyama.

Edit: Naturally the Shin Kikoho is a glaring outlier and would allow Tenshinhan to easily win. I could see him taking out the cyborgs with it, honestly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:19 am

Peach wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:10 pm Buu Saga Yamcha, Krillin, or Tien vs. Namek Frieza
I don't think even Buu arc base Goku can take Freeza. He needs SS, a power level I don't think the humans have come close to.
Also two of those guys are retired by the Buu arc, and the remaining guy isn't remarkable either, so Freeza kills them all.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by GatoF » Mon Feb 10, 2020 1:13 am

Peach wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:10 pm Buu Saga Yamcha, Krillin, or Tien vs. Namek Frieza
I think Tien and Krillin could combine their Taioken to blind Freeza and slice him with Kienzan and/or deal a huge damage with Shin Kikoho. Yamcha dies before that.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Omgzord » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:51 pm

Base Broly vs Kale and Caulifla.

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