The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Thu Feb 13, 2020 5:45 am

Omgzord wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:51 pm Base Broly vs Kale and Caulifla.
Broly

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:43 am

New Hypothetical Question
How strong would Freeza be if he had a Fifth Form like Cooler?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:01 pm

Omgzord wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:51 pm Base Broly vs Kale and Caulifla.
Tired-SS2 Goku was fighting them on sort of equal ground, eventually Base Broly would overpower them.
Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:43 am New Hypothetical Question
How strong would Freeza be if he had a Fifth Form like Cooler?
His transformations tend to be 2x boosts, he goes from 500-ish to a 1M, to 2M, to 4M and then his FP is 30x stronger than that. So following that trend, his 5th form would be around 250M. We have no PL after Namek so I guess he would be around SS Vegeta/Android 18. Maybe a little stronger, but I don't think he can take android 17.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:43 am New Hypothetical Question
How strong would Freeza be if he had a Fifth Form like Cooler?
Well, basing on coolers performances against Goku, the fifth form could perfectly be x30 from the fourth100%

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:43 am New Hypothetical Question
How strong would Freeza be if he had a Fifth Form like Cooler?
Stronger than Android 19/20, but weaker than 17/18.

Maybe around Goku at that time in the story. Don't think it would be an insane Power Boost or anything.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Peach » Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:57 pm

Yamcha (Desert bandit) vs. Hercule

Kid Goku (Prior to meeting Bulma) vs. Hercule

Kid Krillin (Prior to meeting Roshi) vs. Hercule

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Peach wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:57 pm Yamcha (Desert bandit) vs. Hercule

Kid Goku (Prior to meeting Bulma) vs. Hercule

Kid Krillin (Prior to meeting Roshi) vs. Hercule
1- He can't survive a wolf fang fist
2- Goku easily
3- Maybe he has a chance against this Krillin

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:25 am

Peach wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:57 pm Yamcha (Desert bandit) vs. Hercule

Kid Goku (Prior to meeting Bulma) vs. Hercule

Kid Krillin (Prior to meeting Roshi) vs. Hercule
1- Tough fight. Desert Bandit Yamcha is the only Yamcha he might be able to rival. I want to say Mr. Satan, he killed Cell.
2- Goku. Bullets can't harm him while Mr. Satan goes around with a gun just in case.
3- He should defeat a bullied 12-14 years old monk.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragonball0900 » Fri Feb 14, 2020 5:53 pm

Peach wrote: Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:10 pm Buu Saga Yamcha, Krillin, or Tien vs. Namek Frieza
Frieza stomps easily.

Krillin is the strongest of the trio, yet he is weaker than he was in the Cell Saga. That Krillin could not break Dr. Gero's door, something that Base Vegeta was capable to do with a casual ki blast.
Omgzord wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:51 pm Base Broly vs Kale and Caulifla.
Base Broly should be around SSJ3 tier or so. Kale in her LSSJ controlled state should also be around that place, given that a tired SSG Goku was dominating them easily. With Caulifla on her side it should be close, but I'll give it to Broly due to being used to adapt to his opponents.
Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:43 am New Hypothetical Question
How strong would Freeza be if he had a Fifth Form like Cooler?
Somewhere around Android Saga SSJ Vegeta level. Still below Androids 17 and 18.
Peach wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2020 7:57 pm Yamcha (Desert bandit) vs. Hercule

Kid Goku (Prior to meeting Bulma) vs. Hercule

Kid Krillin (Prior to meeting Roshi) vs. Hercule
Hercule loses against all of them, but has a good fight against Krillin.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Lionel » Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:24 pm

Let me try...

1. Manga TOP arc Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha vs Champa arc Botamo, Frost (first form), and Base Cabba (U6 tournament stadium and rules for ring-outs)

2. 22nd Tournament arc Goku and Tenshinhan vs Drum

3. Mecha Freeza arc Piccolo vs Freeza arc Base Goku vs Freeza (on Namek; true form during initial fight against Goku) (three way fight)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Peach » Fri Feb 14, 2020 11:30 pm

Lionel wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:24 pm Let me try...

1. Manga TOP arc Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha vs Champa arc Botamo, Frost (first form), and Base Cabba (U6 tournament stadium and rules for ring-outs)

2. 22nd Tournament arc Goku and Tenshinhan vs Drum

3. Mecha Freeza arc Piccolo vs Freeza arc Base Goku vs Freeza (on Namek; true form during initial fight against Goku) (three way fight)
1. Frost would solo them all

2. Goku and Tien

3. Frieza. If it's Piccolo after the 3 years, then Piccolo.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Lionel wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:24 pm Let me try...

1. Manga TOP arc Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha vs Champa arc Botamo, Frost (first form), and Base Cabba (U6 tournament stadium and rules for ring-outs)

2. 22nd Tournament arc Goku and Tenshinhan vs Drum

3. Mecha Freeza arc Piccolo vs Freeza arc Base Goku vs Freeza (on Namek; true form during initial fight against Goku) (three way fight)
R1 u6 wins this . Botamo and base frost are'nt a problemi but kyabe and magetta are

R2 drum would kill them

R3 i can see piccolo do something herr

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SupremeKai25 » Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:29 am

Some quick Zamasu match-ups I thought of today:

- Zamasu (Present) vs. Botamo, Frost (Final Form with no poison sting), Magetta, and SSJ Cabba (basically the entire U6's team in the Tournament of Destroyers except Hit)

- Zamasu (Present) vs. ToP arc 18

- Zamasu (Future) vs. Final Form Freeza (from the RoF arc)

- Zamasu (Future) vs. Base Kefla (the one who fought tired SSG Goku)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DestructoDisc » Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:36 pm

SupremeKai25 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:29 am Some quick Zamasu match-ups I thought of today:

- Zamasu (Present) vs. Botamo, Frost (Final Form with no poison sting), Magetta, and SSJ Cabba (basically the entire U6's team in the Tournament of Destroyers except Hit)

- Zamasu (Present) vs. ToP arc 18

- Zamasu (Future) vs. Final Form Freeza (from the RoF arc)

- Zamasu (Future) vs. Base Kefla (the one who fought tired SSG Goku)
The U6 team wins

Nobody in the world really knows how strong ToP 18 is supposed to be so this one gets a pass

Zamasu mid diff

Kefla low diff

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:17 pm

New Hypothetical Question
This is a part 2 to my question of What If Goku become a Super Saiyan God in GT during the Omega battle over on The All-Purpose "What If" Thread. After Goku loses his God form, he then absorbs his God Ki into his (now adult) base form (just like he did in Battle of Gods, of course) and stacks that power on top of his Super Saiyan 4 form. How unbelievably POWERFUL would SSJ4 Goku be with God Essence?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:00 pm

Lionel wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:24 pm Let me try...

1. Manga TOP arc Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha vs Champa arc Botamo, Frost (first form), and Base Cabba (U6 tournament stadium and rules for ring-outs)

2. 22nd Tournament arc Goku and Tenshinhan vs Drum

3. Mecha Freeza arc Piccolo vs Freeza arc Base Goku vs Freeza (on Namek; true form during initial fight against Goku) (three way fight)
1- U6 dudes. Base Frost and base Cabba should be enough, and if you throw in Botamo then it's too much.

2- Oh man, the last time I watched DB was in 2017, but I'm betting on Goku and Tenshinhan after a long fight. One of them might die though.

3- Freeza clears. He can kill Goku anytime he wants, and post-Namek Piccolo hasn't trained enough to even be on the realm of Namek base Goku. If it were Piccolo post the 3 year hiatus, then my money'd be on him.
SupremeKai25 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:29 am Some quick Zamasu match-ups I thought of today:

- Zamasu (Present) vs. Botamo, Frost (Final Form with no poison sting), Magetta, and SSJ Cabba (basically the entire U6's team in the Tournament of Destroyers except Hit)

- Zamasu (Present) vs. ToP arc 18

- Zamasu (Future) vs. Final Form Freeza (from the RoF arc)

- Zamasu (Future) vs. Base Kefla (the one who fought tired SSG Goku)
1- Zamasu is SS2 level, the U6 team is nowhere near SS2, they all went down vs SS fighters, but there are four of them. I would say the U6 team because 4 vs 1 is a lot, but SS2 Gohan took out 7 Cell Games SS level characters in the blink of an eye, so maybe Zamasu can come out of this victorious. I'm also counting on Zamasu's hate for ningen, a boost that might help him keep going.

2- ToP 18 is a mystery to me, but I don't think she is FT arc SS2 tier.

3- Zamasu. Freeza went down vs base Goku, Zamasu forced Goku to turn SS2

4- Kefla kills him. (Assuming Zamasu is not immortal)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Sun Feb 16, 2020 9:28 pm

Koitsukai wrote: Sun Feb 16, 2020 8:00 pm
Lionel wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:24 pm Let me try...

1. Manga TOP arc Krillin, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha vs Champa arc Botamo, Frost (first form), and Base Cabba (U6 tournament stadium and rules for ring-outs)

2. 22nd Tournament arc Goku and Tenshinhan vs Drum

3. Mecha Freeza arc Piccolo vs Freeza arc Base Goku vs Freeza (on Namek; true form during initial fight against Goku) (three way fight)
1- U6 dudes. Base Frost and base Cabba should be enough, and if you throw in Botamo then it's too much.

2- Oh man, the last time I watched DB was in 2017, but I'm betting on Goku and Tenshinhan after a long fight. One of them might die though.

3- Freeza clears. He can kill Goku anytime he wants, and post-Namek Piccolo hasn't trained enough to even be on the realm of Namek base Goku. If it were Piccolo post the 3 year hiatus, then my money'd be on him.
SupremeKai25 wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 11:29 am Some quick Zamasu match-ups I thought of today:

- Zamasu (Present) vs. Botamo, Frost (Final Form with no poison sting), Magetta, and SSJ Cabba (basically the entire U6's team in the Tournament of Destroyers except Hit)

- Zamasu (Present) vs. ToP arc 18

- Zamasu (Future) vs. Final Form Freeza (from the RoF arc)

- Zamasu (Future) vs. Base Kefla (the one who fought tired SSG Goku)
1- Zamasu is SS2 level, the U6 team is nowhere near SS2, they all went down vs SS fighters, but there are four of them. I would say the U6 team because 4 vs 1 is a lot, but SS2 Gohan took out 7 Cell Games SS level characters in the blink of an eye, so maybe Zamasu can come out of this victorious. I'm also counting on Zamasu's hate for ningen, a boost that might help him keep going.

2- ToP 18 is a mystery to me, but I don't think she is FT arc SS2 tier.

3- Zamasu. Freeza went down vs base Goku, Zamasu forced Goku to turn SS2

4- Kefla kills him. (Assuming Zamasu is not immortal)
You forgot about my question about God Essence SSJ4 Goku.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Koitsukai » Mon Feb 17, 2020 12:00 am

Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:17 pm New Hypothetical Question
This is a part 2 to my question of What If Goku become a Super Saiyan God in GT during the Omega battle over on The All-Purpose "What If" Thread. After Goku loses his God form, he then absorbs his God Ki into his (now adult) base form (just like he did in Battle of Gods, of course) and stacks that power on top of his Super Saiyan 4 form. How unbelievably POWERFUL would SSJ4 Goku be with God Essence?
You are right, I thought I had replied to it.

Omega Shenron would die. SSG on top of SS4 would be equal or most likely stronger than SS4 Gogeta, and being just Goku and not his fusion, he would not toy with Omega at all.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hugo Boss » Mon Feb 17, 2020 4:29 pm

SSGSS4 Goku would probably be about as strong as SS4 Gogeta, I suppose.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by p-hyvo » Mon Feb 17, 2020 7:14 pm

Dragon Ball Gus wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:17 pm New Hypothetical Question
This is a part 2 to my question of What If Goku become a Super Saiyan God in GT during the Omega battle over on The All-Purpose "What If" Thread. After Goku loses his God form, he then absorbs his God Ki into his (now adult) base form (just like he did in Battle of Gods, of course) and stacks that power on top of his Super Saiyan 4 form. How unbelievably POWERFUL would SSJ4 Goku be with God Essence?
Well, a lot. To the point he could fingerflip ssj4fp Gogeta effortlessly. Ritual God grants a boost much, much larger than any kind of fusion. Imo, he would be quintillions times stronger (i in fact have ritual God multiplier at x2 quintillions in this period)

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