What do you want with Broly?

[funrush]

No, I'm saying what if Freeza does that in the future, like if that "Freeza comes back" story arc happens like a year after the Broly film or something.

I do agree with your point about Kale.

Gohan's agreed to balance but he's still a familyman who has to spend a significant portion of his time working a job and raising a kid. He's not gonna ever be an A-lister again vs. Saiyans that spend literally all of their time training, bar some Z-sword type asspull. His character arc in Super was just he realized he needed to train to keep up/be a bit stronger than someone like Piccolo, as opposed to how wimpy he was in RoF for example. But then again, Super kinda throws power scaling out the window, so maybe his semi-retirement is all he needs to get back up the ladder.

[Psajdak]

As for Broly's supposed arc of learning to control his rage - we saw that already in the tournament of power with Kale.

Yeah, only problem is that Broly and Kale are two different fucking people who don't even live in the same universe.

[ABED]

As for Broly's supposed arc of learning to control his rage - we saw that already in the tournament of power with Kale.

Yeah, only problem is that Broly and Kale are two different fucking people who don't even live in the same universe.

Which is meaningless for the audience. We've seen the story play out. Just because the characters aren't in the same universe (unimportant factoid) doesn't mean that arc wouldn't be doubling up.

[Psajdak]

Which is meaningless for the audience. We've seen the story play out. Just because the characters aren't in the same universe (unimportant factoid) doesn't mean that arc wouldn't be doubling up.

Don't decide for others what they want.

99.9% fans of franchise at this point just follow it to see familiar characters beat the crap out of each other, and spam lasers all over.

No one actually cares for DB being original anymore, or trying new things, or to have some meaning anymore.

[ABED]

How is it meaningful to see the same story play out with characters that are intentionally very similar? What value is gained just by virtue of them being from different universes? They're the same species. You're the one who brought up them being entirely different and from different places, but now seem to be walking that back when you say it doesn't have to be meaningful.

Don't decide for others what they want... No one actually cares for DB being original anymore

Do you really not see the irony in these two statements?

[WittyUsername]

You could argue that the final scene in the movie where Goku invites Broly to some friendly sparring sessions is supposed to hint that he’ll learn to better control his power.

[Psajdak]

How is it meaningful to see the same story play out with characters that are intentionally very similar? What value is gained just by virtue of them being from different universes? They're the same species. You're the one who brought up them being entirely different and from different places, but now seem to be walking that back when you say it doesn't have to be meaningful.

Don't decide for others what they want... No one actually cares for DB being original anymore

Do you really not see the irony in these two statements?

There is no irony, because I am simply stating the facts.

Sure, they may be one, or two people like you who try to find some art, or depth, or meaning, or fucking whatever IN DRAGON BALL, but honestly, as long as it has fights with stronger, and stronger characters, everything else is really just a canon filler.

For what is worth, characters may just start fighting from now on smply because they don't like the colors of each others clothes.

[Grimlock]

I, for one, want another Tournarment of Power to happen, so that Broly has a chance to get eras... No, wait, he's part of the Universe 7 team, so he's protected by the "plot shield", too bad.

characters may just start fighting from now on smply because they don't like the colors of each others clothes.

You know, the saddest thing is that as far as modern Dragon Ball is concerned, this actually may happen eventually. But I assure you I'll be there to complain when that happens. As I don't fit this "No one actually cares for DB being original anymore, or trying new things, or to have some meaning anymore." - category at all.

[JulieYBM]

I, for one, want another Tournarment of Power to happen, so that Broly has a chance to get eras... No, wait, he's part of the Universe 7 team, so he's protected by the "plot shield", too bad.

characters may just start fighting from now on smply because they don't like the colors of each others clothes.

You know, the saddest thing is that as far as modern Dragon Ball is concerned, this actually may happen eventually. But I assure you I'll be there to complain when that happens. As I don't fit this "No one actually cares for DB being original anymore, or trying new things, or to have some meaning anymore." - category at all.

Dang, nice to know you're literally scheduling the next time you want to get mad over a children's television series you don't like.

[Grimlock]

Damn, 2020 and we still have to put up with the "it's not for you anyway" argument. What's next? "If you didn't like it, do it better yourself"?

[It_Is_Ayna_You_Flips]

Damn, 2020 and we still have to put up with the "it's not for you anyway" argument. What's next? "If you didn't like it, do it better yourself"?

Hey now, that worked pretty well for Yoshihiro Togashi

[JulieYBM]

Damn, 2020 and we still have to put up with the "it's not for you anyway" argument. What's next? "If you didn't like it, do it better yourself"?

The point was that you outright admitted that you will for a fact becoming back in the future to be upset is the issue. Besides, I'm a goofy grown woman on the same forum dedicated to the same children's cartoon as you are--I'm not exactly casting myself as An Authority On the Arts™ here.

[goku the krump dancer]

I would rather have them do something with him, than nothing. If they leave it as a one off that makes that whole movie ultimately pointless since nothing was lost or gained by the end other than the knowledge of Broly's existence. Even if they decided to keep Freeza dead after RoF at the very least we know that past Battle of God's Goku and Vegeta gained a some what casual friendship/mentor ship with Beerus and Whis and gained new evolved forms of SSGod as well, not much to right home about but it's something that pushes things forward.

Would love if Broly doesn't become a full fledged good guy either, having him be neutral would be cool. Getting to see his perspective on the universe after his fight with two saiyans he didn't even know existed would be fun. Once he learns to articulate himself better via help from Chile and Lemon. we could see if he aspires to have more out of his life besides maybe banging the Green Girl, becoming buddies with the Orange Guy and eating bugs all day.

[Mad Swami]

The end of Super would point to Gohan not being retired. It showed the opposite. Gohan has learned his lesson and looks to be pursuing a more balanced life - one where he keeps his skills sharp but also trains his mind.

As for Broly's supposed arc of learning to control his rage - we saw that already in the tournament of power with Kale.

And Freeza did not train and become stronger than Goku and Vegeta.

1. Just curious, what made you mention Gohan?

2. I mean yeah but I don't think that's the arc they would do for him persay. My thoughts at least

3. Well probably not but he might of. I mean he "held is own" against someone 5-50x stronger than SSB

[ABED]

How is it meaningful to see the same story play out with characters that are intentionally very similar? What value is gained just by virtue of them being from different universes? They're the same species. You're the one who brought up them being entirely different and from different places, but now seem to be walking that back when you say it doesn't have to be meaningful.

Don't decide for others what they want... No one actually cares for DB being original anymore

Do you really not see the irony in these two statements?

There is no irony, because I am simply stating the facts.

Sure, they may be one, or two people like you who try to find some art, or depth, or meaning, or fucking whatever IN DRAGON BALL, but honestly, as long as it has fights with stronger, and stronger characters, everything else is really just a canon filler.

For what is worth, characters may just start fighting from now on smply because they don't like the colors of each others clothes.

You didn't state a single fact. It was all conjecture.

This isn't about finding depth and meaning, it's simply not wanting to see the same exact arc play out in characters that essentially mirrors. It's redundant. Being from different universes doesn't change that at all. Why would it matter whether the characters are in the same universe if they are playing out the same damn arc?

And yes, those two statements are ironic. You scold me for supposedly "deciding what others want" and then tell me what everyone wants.

[Skar]

His fate might be similar to Android 8 who was a "monster" that some bad guys wanted to use as a weapon, befriended Goku, and now lives in peace with a cameo during the series finale. The Z fighters haven't brought up Broly during the Moro saga so maybe they don't intend to disturb his peace and ask for his help.

The point was that you outright admitted that you will for a fact becoming back in the future to be upset is the issue. Besides, I'm a goofy grown woman on the same forum dedicated to the same children's cartoon as you are--I'm not exactly casting myself as An Authority On the Arts™ here.

I remember someone who used to post on here named JacobYBM. I think it was a few years ago. Are you two related or both inspired by the same series when deciding on a username? I was just curious!

[Psajdak]

You didn't state a single fact. It was all conjecture.
This isn't about finding depth and meaning, it's simply not wanting to see the same exact arc play out in characters that essentially mirrors. It's redundant. Being from different universes doesn't change that at all. Why would it matter whether the characters are in the same universe if they are playing out the same damn arc?
And yes, those two statements are ironic. You scold me for supposedly "deciding what others want" and then tell me what everyone wants.

Whatever, believe what you want.

I guess you just don't get how much people in Japan love "same old - same old" familiar stuff, and why Doraemon, Sazae-san, Saint Seiya, Dragon Ball, Detective Conan, Pokemon, etc. are exactly tpopular.

[Psajdak]

You didn't state a single fact. It was all conjecture.
This isn't about finding depth and meaning, it's simply not wanting to see the same exact arc play out in characters that essentially mirrors. It's redundant. Being from different universes doesn't change that at all. Why would it matter whether the characters are in the same universe if they are playing out the same damn arc?
And yes, those two statements are ironic. You scold me for supposedly "deciding what others want" and then tell me what everyone wants.

Whatever, believe what you want.

I guess you just don't get how much people in Japan love "same old - same old" familiar stuff, and why Doraemon, Sazae-san, Saint Seiya, Dragon Ball, Detective Conan, Pokemon, etc. are exactly tpopular.

[kemuri07]

Hopefully stays gone

Broly is absolutely fine in a spectacle like that last Dragonball movie. I cannot imagine him at all in the story proper, especially as he is now.

[Lord Beerus]

I echo the thoughts of Shaddy. I'd love to see a character arc for Broly that actually go in depth with the mental issue that are linked to Broly's power. But I have a feeling they'll probably never mentioned the Super!Broly again.