What's the definitive "Goku gets a one-sided ass-whooping" scene?

[ABED]

It's not that he considers it a loss because Goku was the better fighter, he hates that Goku got as far as he did. Vegeta lived with this caste system mentality that regardless of how much work a fighter did, elites are elites, and third class warriors are third class warriors. Goku should never have been able to do as well as he did against an elite, much less him.

[blacksymbiote]

50% Frieza seemed the most brutal because in spite of all of Goku's abilities and power-ups before SSJ, they were just entirely ineffective and the villain isn't even trying hard. The saving throw spirit bomb doesn't even do anything. Vegeta's dying wish is in vain and the whole universe seems to be doomed.

[Metalwario64]

I'll toss a vote for Z movie 7 with Super 13 beating Goku down. I mean, he punches Goku in the testicles, and then even blasts his shirt off! I mean, sure, his shirt has come off many times before and since (and that's when you know he's taken a beating, whenever his shirt is torn off), but to have his shirt come off AND have his balls punched? That's a real contender here, folks!

[Anonymous Friend]

It's not that he considers it a loss because Goku was the better fighter, he hates that Goku got as far as he did. Vegeta lived with this caste system mentality that regardless of how much work a fighter did, elites are elites, and third class warriors are third class warriors. Goku should never have been able to do as well as he did against an elite, much less him.

So, what you're saying, is that Vegeta would not be satisfied with just beating Goku in a fight, but would need a Namek Saga Freeza gap in their ability?

Because from my count, it's Vegeta 2, Goku 0. And Vegeta even saved Goku's life.

[Anonymous Friend]

Any scene where Chi-Chi is arguing with him.

This is the only correct answer. Because there's no winning in these confrutations. There's only Chi-chi calming down and letting Goku off the hook.

Everyone else Goku fights will eventaully lose.

[LoganForkHands73]

It's not that he considers it a loss because Goku was the better fighter, he hates that Goku got as far as he did. Vegeta lived with this caste system mentality that regardless of how much work a fighter did, elites are elites, and third class warriors are third class warriors. Goku should never have been able to do as well as he did against an elite, much less him.

So, what you're saying, is that Vegeta would not be satisfied with just beating Goku in a fight, but would need a Namek Saga Freeza gap in their ability?

Because from my count, it's Vegeta 2, Goku 0. And Vegeta even saved Goku's life.

It's not about the victory/loss count. Vegeta won the first time, but it was the mere fact that a peasant like Goku could stand up to him at all that pissed him off the most. The second time was a cheap shot and he never would have stood a chance if Goku got serious.

[Grimlock]

The definitive "Goku gets a one-sided ass-whooping" scene are these ones:

[LoganForkHands73]

The definitive "Goku gets a one-sided ass-whooping" scene are these ones:

Goku's only weakness.

Also... not gonna start a dub debate but... "WaaaAAAaa-forgotmytractor-AAAaa..." was pretty effin funny, right? Right guys?

[Anonymous Friend]

It's not that he considers it a loss because Goku was the better fighter, he hates that Goku got as far as he did. Vegeta lived with this caste system mentality that regardless of how much work a fighter did, elites are elites, and third class warriors are third class warriors. Goku should never have been able to do as well as he did against an elite, much less him.

So, what you're saying, is that Vegeta would not be satisfied with just beating Goku in a fight, but would need a Namek Saga Freeza gap in their ability?

Because from my count, it's Vegeta 2, Goku 0. And Vegeta even saved Goku's life.

It's not about the victory/loss count. Vegeta won the first time, but it was the mere fact that a peasant like Goku could stand up to him at all that pissed him off the most. The second time was a cheap shot and he never would have stood a chance if Goku got serious.

And I get Vegeta's feelings, but what sort of Win was he looking for to sate his ego, is what I asked. None of this can really be answered by anyone but Toriyama, but It always bugged me that Vegeta kept this chip on his sholders when He was stronger than Goku until Goku showed up and whooped the Ginyus. Although thinking about that, we didn't get the chipped shoulder until everyone was back on earth. Namek Saga Vegeta was more concerned about surviving Freeza.

[LoganForkHands73]

So, what you're saying, is that Vegeta would not be satisfied with just beating Goku in a fight, but would need a Namek Saga Freeza gap in their ability?

Because from my count, it's Vegeta 2, Goku 0. And Vegeta even saved Goku's life.

It's not about the victory/loss count. Vegeta won the first time, but it was the mere fact that a peasant like Goku could stand up to him at all that pissed him off the most. The second time was a cheap shot and he never would have stood a chance if Goku got serious.

And I get Vegeta's feelings, but what sort of Win was he looking for to sate his ego, is what I asked. None of this can really be answered by anyone but Toriyama, but It always bugged me that Vegeta kept this chip on his sholders when He was stronger than Goku until Goku showed up and whooped the Ginyus. Although thinking about that, we didn't get the chipped shoulder until everyone was back on earth. Namek Saga Vegeta was more concerned about surviving Freeza.

Ah, fair enough. Probably enough of a win where he could kill Goku in like one hit, or at least enough of a gap where Goku couldn't possibly hurt him, much less make him bleed his guts out. So yeah, probably a Frieza-esque gap. Nothing else would probably have satisfied him back then. The thing about chronic narcissists like Vegeta is that their goals and perceptions of reality can be pretty skewed and nonsensical. It's like Patrick Bateman in American Psycho with the business card scene where another yuppie having a slightly better printed card was enough to drive Patrick nuts.

[ArmenianPepsi]

Goku vs Broly in Movie 8 was a straight smack down until the last minute. Broly beat the hell out of Trunks, Gohan, and Piccolo without even blinking. Also he is one of the few beings that ever made Vegeta lock up out of pure fear. Watching him wail on Goku was just brutal.