I didn't have the dialogues handy, so thanks for the correction.FishermanJohnWest wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 2:29 amThat's actually wrong, hearts never powered up against jiren when fighting with cumber and zamasu, it was just base hearts.Grand Marshal 1 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 3:29 amCC cast in Heroes is post-ToP.Triggered Vegeta wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:09 pm
Isn't the scaling in SDBH like way higher than DBS tho? Pretty sure Cooler would kill Moro.
Base Cumber is SSB Vegito level... A much stronger version of Vegito than the one from the DBS manga who rivals Beerus. Cooler even in base could swap hands with SS3 Cumber although at a disadvantage. Base cooler should be GOD tier.
Golden Metal Cooler bodied Cumber which should far exceed Beerus. I don't see Current Moro being many times stronger than Beerus.
Cumber is strong, but not as strong as people think.
Golden Great Ape Cumber was not enough for Vegito Blue.
SS3FP Cumber with Super Hearts and Halo Zamasu could not defeat Super Full Power Jiren (who shouldn't be stronger than his ToP counterpart).
Super Hearts and Cumber were defeated by Jiren, Hit and Golden Metal Cooler in the game.
So rly, he isn't much stronger. Cooler or Cumber for that matter.
And went hearts left cumber and zamasu vs jiren Jiren wasn't winning even against cumber and zamasu. And super hearts and cumber took on also Goku and Vegeta as well
Either way, what I meant to say with all this is that Cumber and Cooler who scales to him, aren't beyond Blue Fusion. Hense my matching earlier.