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Re: Dragon Ball Z 4:3 Steelbooks

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:32 pm

VirtuaBranson wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:46 pm It’s really dumb that I’m considering these, mainly because I have all of Kai and am happy enough to keep the English dub of that. I do like the look of the steelbooks though.
Hey man, if your a collector and are managing your finances right don't feel bad about it. Dragon Ball wouldn't have had the success it has had globally without the large number of us who have done our part.

I have the 2013 Season sets, most of the singles and Kai (Season 1 & 2 twice for both score options) but am considering getting the UK season sets announced today because I want to support a 4:3 release and to get the art cards.
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Post by Kendamu » Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:24 pm

VirtuaBranson wrote: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:46 pm It’s really dumb that I’m considering these, mainly because I have all of Kai and am happy enough to keep the English dub of that. I do like the look of the steelbooks though.

Also they need to release DBS Seasons and not sets dangit. Been waiting for that instead of another release of Z.
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Post by coola » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:02 pm

I'd say, only "hope" for proper, not limited 4:3 DB/DBZ/GT release, is Discotek Media, unlike Funimation, I'm almost 100% certain, they would prepare best possible release, maybe even with broadcast audio? :) If they could use laser disc footage for Project A-Ko, then I'm sure they would at least attempt to get it :)
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Re: Dragon Ball Z 4:3 Steelbooks

Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:30 pm

coola wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:02 pm I'd say, only "hope" for proper, not limited 4:3 DB/DBZ/GT release, is Discotek Media, unlike Funimation, I'm almost 100% certain, they would prepare best possible release, maybe even with broadcast audio? :) If they could use laser disc footage for Project A-Ko, then I'm sure they would at least attempt to get it :)
I heard that the master for A-ko were lost and the only best-looking source was from the LaserDisc. But I mentioned a few years ago how I'd love with funi to work with another party for either a MOD release or special release that were basically untouched scans. I didnt know Discotek released AKo, I wonder if it's worth upgrading my VHS copy

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Post by jjgp1112 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:48 pm

If I buy another DBZ release, it'd be a hypothetical competent remaster. Because if I watch Dragon Ball Z, it's gonna be in English, and well, the English dub (sans UUC) is unwatchable until the Cell Games—I have a 1TB HDD containing all of Kai w/ the Faulconer score (footage ripped from my legally owned Kai Blu-rays :thumbup: ) for that. So it would take a special kind of release to warrant me watching Z.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z 4:3 Steelbooks

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:28 am

coola wrote: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:02 pm I'd say, only "hope" for proper, not limited 4:3 DB/DBZ/GT release, is Discotek Media, unlike Funimation, I'm almost 100% certain, they would prepare best possible release, maybe even with broadcast audio? :) If they could use laser disc footage for Project A-Ko, then I'm sure they would at least attempt to get it :)
That's not going to happen, sadly. Someone tweeted Justin Sevakis recently about Discotek releasing the Ocean dub of Kai, he said that's not possible because it's up to TOEI who their exclusive distributor of Dragon Ball in North America is, and it's been Funimation for well over 20 years. It would be amazing though, Discotek would likely include all things Funimation omits.
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Post by CuppaKofe » Fri Sep 18, 2020 5:57 am

It's really amusing how MangaUK announced their regular release at the exact same as their Steelbooks, but Funimation is still up to their old "This limited releases is totally definitely maybe the last way to get 4:3 DBZ we promise, please buy" tactic.
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Post by TheGreatness25 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:01 am

So... the limited edition... set... was... just for the box, book, and Goku figure? Alright, whatever. Just means I don't have to wait around to get these as they release nine of them over a two-year time period.

Still can't help but feel a bit dicked around by Funimation. Just to be clear, Funi: I buy your merchandise for Dragon Ball, not for you. They really do come off totally untrustworthy sometimes -- and I'm not referring to their crappy remastering process.

But, I swear, if this thing is going to have actual extra features (because, you know, the "OMG SUPER DUPER POOPER INCREDIBLE LIMITED EDITION AMAZING 30TH ANNIVERSARY BETTER THAN SEX PRE-ORDER IT TODAY OR IT'LL NEVER COME OUT AGAIN!!!" had the exact same features as previous releases, giving us interviews from 6 years prior), I'm going to be really pissed.

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Post by Kendamu » Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:38 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:01 am So... the limited edition... set... was... just for the box, book, and Goku figure? Alright, whatever. Just means I don't have to wait around to get these as they release nine of them over a two-year time period.

Still can't help but feel a bit dicked around by Funimation. Just to be clear, Funi: I buy your merchandise for Dragon Ball, not for you. They really do come off totally untrustworthy sometimes -- and I'm not referring to their crappy remastering process.

But, I swear, if this thing is going to have actual extra features (because, you know, the "OMG SUPER DUPER POOPER INCREDIBLE LIMITED EDITION AMAZING 30TH ANNIVERSARY BETTER THAN SEX PRE-ORDER IT TODAY OR IT'LL NEVER COME OUT AGAIN!!!" had the exact same features as previous releases, giving us interviews from 6 years prior), I'm going to be really pissed.
I'm not gonna hold my breath on extra features. These will likely just be exactly what you think it is.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z 4:3 Steelbooks

Post by TheGreatness25 » Sun Sep 20, 2020 10:29 pm

Kendamu wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:38 pm
TheGreatness25 wrote: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:01 am So... the limited edition... set... was... just for the box, book, and Goku figure? Alright, whatever. Just means I don't have to wait around to get these as they release nine of them over a two-year time period.

Still can't help but feel a bit dicked around by Funimation. Just to be clear, Funi: I buy your merchandise for Dragon Ball, not for you. They really do come off totally untrustworthy sometimes -- and I'm not referring to their crappy remastering process.

But, I swear, if this thing is going to have actual extra features (because, you know, the "OMG SUPER DUPER POOPER INCREDIBLE LIMITED EDITION AMAZING 30TH ANNIVERSARY BETTER THAN SEX PRE-ORDER IT TODAY OR IT'LL NEVER COME OUT AGAIN!!!" had the exact same features as previous releases, giving us interviews from 6 years prior), I'm going to be really pissed.
I'm not gonna hold my breath on extra features. These will likely just be exactly what you think it is.
Yeah. Good.

Besides, I feel like after the last year or so, Funimation's cast kind of dropped off the face of the Earth. No interviews or anything (unless I missed something). So, they might not have anything new to add. And as I said: good! Sorry, but that would be total horse crap.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z 4:3 Steelbooks

Post by Kendamu » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:49 pm

They're not even advertising this release in the US. A fan just kinda found it and now we're talking about it on our own. Theres no way anything new is on here.
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Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:59 pm

Kendamu wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:49 pm They're not even advertising this release in the US. A fan just kinda found it and now we're talking about it on our own. Theres no way anything new is on here.
Someone on bluray.com said this
I have heard rumors... the Steelbooks will be an improvement on the 30th anniversary Blu-Rays. Specifically that the fake grain layer will be removed and the colors less saturated. Unfortunately I can’t find any reliable reference, so I may just have to wait for the inevitable online comparison videos.

I am actually springing for these Steelbooks. I was tempted to make an impulse buy for the 30th last year but I decided not to. I’m glad I waited. I hate those cardboard sleeve disc cases and if these are improved that will be even better.
Now it's a 100% grain of salt but given FUNi's obsession with minor tinkering since the OB, I wouldn't be too surprised.

I know cowboy bebop is getting a steelbook release as well, I'm not sure that's been advertised either

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Post by Matches Malone » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:04 pm

I have heard rumors... the Steelbooks will be an improvement on the 30th anniversary Blu-Rays. Specifically that the fake grain layer will be removed and the colors less saturated.
I guess it could happen, but I just can't see Funi doing this, as it'll prevent them from releasing the show later down the line with these potential changes.

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Post by Metalwario64 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:41 pm

You know, I'd consider this a tolerable release if it was the same remaster, just without that fake grain layer.

I mean, the DNR is a bad thing, but then further muddying it up with artificial noise just makes it even worse.
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Re: Dragon Ball Z 4:3 Steelbooks

Post by KBABZ » Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:48 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:59 pm Someone on bluray.com said this
I have heard rumors... the Steelbooks will be an improvement on the 30th anniversary Blu-Rays. Specifically that the fake grain layer will be removed and the colors less saturated. Unfortunately I can’t find any reliable reference, so I may just have to wait for the inevitable online comparison videos.

I am actually springing for these Steelbooks. I was tempted to make an impulse buy for the 30th last year but I decided not to. I’m glad I waited. I hate those cardboard sleeve disc cases and if these are improved that will be even better.
Psssh, sounds like something that YouTube guy made up to get attention.

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Post by The Time Traveller » Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:18 pm

I wanna watch the show in HD, and we'll probably never get it properly... So I pre-ordered the non-steelbook version of season 1...
eledoremassis02 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:59 pm Someone on bluray.com said this

I think Manga already confirmed they're just the same discs as the 30th Box anyway.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z 4:3 Steelbooks

Post by KBABZ » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:11 pm

The Time Traveller wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:18 pm I wanna watch the show in HD, and we'll probably never get it properly... So I pre-ordered the non-steelbook version of season 1...
eledoremassis02 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:59 pm Someone on bluray.com said this
I think Manga already confirmed they're just the same discs as the 30th Box anyway.
This makes the most sense to me; it saves a LOT of money to literally re-use the same ISOs and just change what the art print on the top is.

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Re: Dragon Ball Z 4:3 Steelbooks

Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:54 pm

KBABZ wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:11 pm
The Time Traveller wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:18 pm I wanna watch the show in HD, and we'll probably never get it properly... So I pre-ordered the non-steelbook version of season 1...
eledoremassis02 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 3:59 pm Someone on bluray.com said this
I think Manga already confirmed they're just the same discs as the 30th Box anyway.
This makes the most sense to me; it saves a LOT of money to literally re-use the same ISOs and just change what the art print on the top is.
Normally I'd agree, but this is FUNimation :lol: so while I wouldnt be suprised if they tinkered with it again, also wouldnt be suprised if they didnt

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Re: Dragon Ball Z 4:3 Steelbooks

Post by Kendamu » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:01 pm

eledoremassis02 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:54 pm
KBABZ wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:11 pm
The Time Traveller wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:18 pm I wanna watch the show in HD, and we'll probably never get it properly... So I pre-ordered the non-steelbook version of season 1...

I think Manga already confirmed they're just the same discs as the 30th Box anyway.
This makes the most sense to me; it saves a LOT of money to literally re-use the same ISOs and just change what the art print on the top is.
Normally I'd agree, but this is FUNimation :lol: so while I wouldnt be suprised if they tinkered with it again, also wouldnt be suprised if they didnt
If they messed with it again I'd expect the'd have a video out withere with Chris Sabat in his deep trailer voice like, "We messed with it again and this time it's really definitive," or something. :lol:
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Re: Dragon Ball Z 4:3 Steelbooks

Post by eledoremassis02 » Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:04 pm

Kendamu wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:01 pm
eledoremassis02 wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:54 pm
KBABZ wrote: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:11 pm
This makes the most sense to me; it saves a LOT of money to literally re-use the same ISOs and just change what the art print on the top is.
Normally I'd agree, but this is FUNimation :lol: so while I wouldnt be suprised if they tinkered with it again, also wouldnt be suprised if they didnt
If they messed with it again I'd expect the'd have a video out withere with Chris Sabat in his deep trailer voice like, "We messed with it again and this time it's really definitive," or something. :lol:
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