MistaL wrote: ↑Tue Nov 05, 2024 4:11 amThis really doesn't make any difference at all. Kai aired and re-aired in other places after they got newer properties already. The last movie also played in theatres here, so we're in no different position than we were a year ago.
That is a good point, but for one thing, movies are a separate domain in this context. It's not like having the FUNimation dubs of the new Broly movie or other Dragon Ball movies in Canadian movie theaters would in any way jeopardize having Ocean dubbing those same movies. That was never on the table in the first place.
Furthermore, I think you're honing in too much on the concept of movies being in Canadian theaters or Kai itself resurfacing in any situation. Of course that couldn't possibly be problematic.
The problem I'm communicating is, Ocean's Kai dub is contingent upon having a TV deal, with both the intellectual property owner as well as the potential Canada-based network being interested in not only the property, but that edition of it. We've already seen Lisa Yamatoya with her hand in the cookie jar, trying to push FUNimation's Kai dub on Wow! Unlimited's Marni Shulman. Now, of course, she didn't play ball, but her bosses having too much greed and apathy to do anything and squandering all of the potential of that opportunity makes that totally immaterial.
So, we're looking at a very uphill battle already. And you and anyone else are free to disagree, of course. But I feel as though the Dragon Ball Kai property itself, let alone Ocean's unseen dub of it, will lose steam the older it gets and the influx of newer Dragon Ball content topples over the years, as it has already, it does prove to be a challenge to get the general public to care. Double time in the case of stuck-up, out of touch Toei executives.
As I pointed out in my previous post, unlike with Kai and Super, Toei took care of Daima's Canadian distribution right quick. No room to even ponder or speculate. So, even if Ocean's Kai dub could qualify as a new property, it would probably lead Toei to sell it to the same platforms, Netflix and very interestingly, Crunchyroll, the company that acts as a carrier of the FUNimation legacy in certain aspects, at least. That being the case, you could at the bare minimum 99% count on FUNimation's dub being applied to it, thus forming a very apparent paradox: We want Dragon Ball Kai to be distributed in Canada to see Ocean's dub, but the people who are far more likely than all other entities to do it will not use Ocean's dub.
It should be noted that it also doesn't help that Dragon Ball Kai, as a piece of media itself is a disjointedly produced rehash of Dragon Ball Z that was never too popular in its native Japan and even in certain western circles, for whatever the reason or rationale might be, the home releases, streams or whatever else of Dragon Ball Z seem to consistently sell and resonate with old and new fans. So, when you're trying to pitch Dragon Ball Kai to new broadcasters, those who are typically not Dragon Ball fans, what is the incentive for them to take in a 15-year old Dragon Ball property that gives off a neither fish nor foul delivery, especially at face value?
The incentive for us, obviously, is to see Ocean's dub. I feel like some of us around here seem to propagate this belief that Dragon Ball Kai airing in Canada will somehow reshape the anime industry or that a new generation would just never know about the awesomeness of Dragon Ball without YTV or whoever else airing it. Nobody really cares about that and we know that's not true. It's all about this happening would be the only gateway for us seeing an English-language interpretation of Dragon Ball Kai that we may very well like a lot better.
There's nothing wrong with that, don't get me wrong. FUNimation had been all about not leaving well enough alone and hindering everything people like about Dragon Ball from their birth until their death. But I just feel like all of us should employ a little more self-awareness regarding this situation. Both in terms of the likelihood of us seeing this thing before we reach our 50s or somewhere therein and the reality of why we put so much stock in it in the first place.