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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:33 pm

hembro wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:03 pm I'm not sure about home media but when I was searching for information on those English language books I came across a few web pages that mentioned that it aired on a tv channel called NTV7 dubbed in the Malay language and there were tankobon released under the localized title Mutiara Naga which translates to Dragon Pearl. I'd assume at least the television broadcasts were legal and the manga possibly too.
I assume this too, although from what I've heard a lot of the TV2 and Speedy cast are the same, so I often wonder how the 90s/early 2000s Malay dub sounded (its lost media sadly).

NTV7 aired Dragon Ball Kai on a block called Bananana around 2014/2015, not sure about the original three anime though.

I don't know about a Malay language manga, it may exist though, as I know other Asian territories like Vietnam, Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Indonesia (albeit illegal) got their own translations.
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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by hembro » Sat Oct 19, 2024 7:03 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:33 pm
hembro wrote: Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:03 pm I'm not sure about home media but when I was searching for information on those English language books I came across a few web pages that mentioned that it aired on a tv channel called NTV7 dubbed in the Malay language and there were tankobon released under the localized title Mutiara Naga which translates to Dragon Pearl. I'd assume at least the television broadcasts were legal and the manga possibly too.
I don't know about a Malay language manga, it may exist though, as I know other Asian territories like Vietnam, Korea, Hong Kong, Taiwan and Indonesia (albeit illegal) got their own translations.
It's fascinating how stuff spread and could be so different because of bootlegging and just localization. I have Vietnamese family who I talked to once about Dragon Ball years ago and my cousin had a totally different read on characters due to the version he saw compared to me. He was under the impression Vegeta and Goku were brothers due to the Vietnamese manga he had read as a kid and it wasn't that he didn't know anything about the series, he knew the whole story but with odd quirks like that.

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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by super michael » Wed Oct 23, 2024 4:31 pm

I want to ask did the USA version of Dragon Ball GT has two English subs? Around the year 2000s, before Blu-Ray existed I bought Dragon Ball GT Collection on eBay, however it had two English Sub. I want to double check if that is correct, since I can't find my collection.

I want to see the different subs between Vegeta and Bulma conversion, when they talk about turning Vegeta into a SSJ4.
I believe in one version they mention how Vegeta got stronger from training and it might be possible to gain SSJ5, while the other version doesn't mention SSJ5.

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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by DragonBallSyndicate » Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:43 pm

I wonder if we will ever go back to RPG 16bit style of Dragon Ball. I'm talking
  • Legacy of Goku series
  • Supersonic Warriors series
  • Attack of the Saiyans
But with it's own story that hasn't been told yet, like when Shin Budokai - Another World came out for the PSP.
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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by ZeroNeonix » Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:49 pm

DragonBallSyndicate wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:43 pm I wonder if we will ever go back to RPG 16bit style of Dragon Ball. I'm talking
  • Legacy of Goku series
  • Supersonic Warriors series
  • Attack of the Saiyans
But with it's own story that hasn't been told yet, like when Shin Budokai - Another World came out for the PSP.
I would love a Legacy of Goku IV. Whether it covers Super, GT, or Daima. The second and third games are really fun. The first one...exists. lol

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Post by dbs fanboy » Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:33 pm

Has anyone else thought about how insane it is that Goku actually intercepted the 4 star ball before it left, once?

He didn't just grab it while it was floating in the air, he jumped and caught it before it left.
I see a lot of peeps talking about "speed feats" for kid Goku and this one never gets mentioned, which to me it is much more impressive than the usual mentioned ones.

I mean, how fast can dragon balls travel anyway? we do know that Namekian Dragon Balls can get from Namek to Earth in minutes, and Black Star Dragon Balls spread across the entire Universe.

Heck, do they even slow down before hitting the ground? Could you imagine someone getting hit by them, and dying, right after a wish bringing everyone back to life?

Sucks to be them :lol:
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Post by ZeroNeonix » Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:22 pm

dbs fanboy wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 10:33 pm Has anyone else thought about how insane it is that Goku actually intercepted the 4 star ball before it left, once?

He didn't just grab it while it was floating in the air, he jumped and caught it before it left.
I see a lot of peeps talking about "speed feats" for kid Goku and this one never gets mentioned, which to me it is much more impressive than the usual mentioned ones.

I mean, how fast can dragon balls travel anyway? we do know that Namekian Dragon Balls can get from Namek to Earth in minutes, and Black Star Dragon Balls spread across the entire Universe.

Heck, do they even slow down before hitting the ground? Could you imagine someone getting hit by them, and dying, right after a wish bringing everyone back to life?

Sucks to be them :lol:
I remember when he did that, my first thought was, "Wait. They can do that? Why don't they do that every time and save time having to hunt them?"

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Post by Koitsukai » Tue Oct 29, 2024 4:23 pm

This piece of trivia is mostly directed at the latin-spanish speaking community, and perhaps it's present in other dubs.

The narrator's line when Gohan is about to trash Cell, that became a meme, "Cell finally experienced real terror" or something like that, has an actual set up I had no idea about. While Cell is trying to make Gohan angry, Goku thinks "yes, Cell, keep doing that... that's how you'll experience real terror".
I was amazed when I heard that line, I never paid attention to it before.

I wonder if other dubs had something like that going on.

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Post by The Monkey King » Wed Oct 30, 2024 12:26 pm

I guess this shouldn't be too surprising but Vegeta noticing that Granolah's eye colour changed from blue to red must mean he has some pretty amazing eyesight considering the distance between them lol

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Post by Caulifor » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:20 pm

I noticed a small continuity error last night while rereading "Jaco, the Galactic Patrolman." It's probably been pointed out before, but I've never seen anyone mention it.

At the very end, Omori's narration tells us that Bulma has graduated from university and is off to search for the Dragon Balls.
However, in the Red Ribbon Arc, she clearly tells the policeman that she's skipping school because it got boring.
You could argue that she started another degree after that, but given the context and her age, it seems the policeman is referring to actual high school, and she appears to be on the same page as him.

It's an utterly trivial contradiction, but it still caught my attention.

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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Yuji » Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:28 pm

Caulifor wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:20 pm I noticed a small continuity error last night while rereading "Jaco, the Galactic Patrolman." It's probably been pointed out before, but I've never seen anyone mention it.

At the very end, Omori's narration tells us that Bulma has graduated from university and is off to search for the Dragon Balls.
However, in the Red Ribbon Arc, she clearly tells the policeman that she's skipping school because it got boring.
You could argue that she started another degree after that, but given the context and her age, it seems the policeman is referring to actual high school, and she appears to be on the same page as him.

It's an utterly trivial contradiction, but it still caught my attention.
Maybe she just lied to the policeman, to avoid follow up questions of how she graduated university so young. Or, like you said, she started another degree, and the two are actually on different pages.

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Post by DragonBallSyndicate » Sat Nov 02, 2024 2:16 pm

ZeroNeonix wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:49 pm
DragonBallSyndicate wrote: Sat Oct 26, 2024 3:43 pm I wonder if we will ever go back to RPG 16bit style of Dragon Ball. I'm talking
  • Legacy of Goku series
  • Supersonic Warriors series
  • Attack of the Saiyans
But with it's own story that hasn't been told yet, like when Shin Budokai - Another World came out for the PSP.
I would love a Legacy of Goku IV. Whether it covers Super, GT, or Daima. The second and third games are really fun. The first one...exists. lol
The First LoG is like a attempt at a game that turned into a series. Think of Pokemon Red and Blue, Megaman Battle Network 1. When you compare those 3 to Pokemon Crystal, Battle Network 3 and LoG 2 & 3, you can see how those ideas built into something great.

But yeah, I think for a LoG 4, they could go GT, "Another World" PSP style or even the non canon Dragon Ball Super Heroes series since Super is technically ongoing but on hiatus since Akira's passing.
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Post by Koitsukai » Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:29 am

Yuji wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:28 pm
Caulifor wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:20 pm I noticed a small continuity error last night while rereading "Jaco, the Galactic Patrolman." It's probably been pointed out before, but I've never seen anyone mention it.

At the very end, Omori's narration tells us that Bulma has graduated from university and is off to search for the Dragon Balls.
However, in the Red Ribbon Arc, she clearly tells the policeman that she's skipping school because it got boring.
You could argue that she started another degree after that, but given the context and her age, it seems the policeman is referring to actual high school, and she appears to be on the same page as him.

It's an utterly trivial contradiction, but it still caught my attention.
Maybe she just lied to the policeman, to avoid follow up questions of how she graduated university so young. Or, like you said, she started another degree, and the two are actually on different pages.
Wasn't she looking for a boyfriend back then? maybe she's just attending HS to find one?

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Post by MasenkoHA » Fri Nov 08, 2024 8:38 am

Yuji wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:28 pm
Caulifor wrote: Thu Oct 31, 2024 2:20 pm I noticed a small continuity error last night while rereading "Jaco, the Galactic Patrolman." It's probably been pointed out before, but I've never seen anyone mention it.

At the very end, Omori's narration tells us that Bulma has graduated from university and is off to search for the Dragon Balls.
However, in the Red Ribbon Arc, she clearly tells the policeman that she's skipping school because it got boring.
You could argue that she started another degree after that, but given the context and her age, it seems the policeman is referring to actual high school, and she appears to be on the same page as him.

It's an utterly trivial contradiction, but it still caught my attention.
Maybe she just lied to the policeman, to avoid follow up questions of how she graduated university so young. Or, like you said, she started another degree, and the two are actually on different pages.

If she's going to be dismissive and nonchalant to a police officer about cutting class she would have no reason to not mention she doesn't go to school because she already graduated from university.

In the manga she also told Goku in like chapter 2 that she was on summer vacation and had 30 days to find the dragon ball.


It's a continuity error. Nothing more nothing less.

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Post by Caulifor » Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:47 pm

Does anyone here with better knowledge of the anime know if the scene of Oolong wishing for panties is replayed anywhere else, as a flashback? I know of one instance of it showing up again, which is when Goku is telling Snow about the Dragon Balls, but anyone know of any others?

Asking for personal editing reasons, need to find a salvageable version of his line in the Brazilian dub. The one I just mentioned is actually good, he does say the right thing (as opposed to the actual scene in the first arc), but the "Dragon Ball I Got it" song is being sung in the background and can't be removed as it's voiced, so this one is unusable :problem:

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Post by MasenkoHA » Tue Nov 19, 2024 8:02 am

Caulifor wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:47 pm
Asking for personal editing reasons, need to find a salvageable version of his line in the Brazilian dub. The one I just mentioned is actually good, he does say the right thing (as opposed to the actual scene in the first arc), but the "Dragon Ball I Got it" song is being sung in the background and can't be removed as it's voiced, so this one is unusable :problem:
Wasn't Dragon Ball Densetsu missing from episode 35 in the Brazilian dub like the Funi and Mexican Spanish dubs?

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Post by Caulifor » Tue Nov 19, 2024 9:24 am

Nope, the song is there and it's even sung in Portuguese. Which is curious because I was under the impression the Brazilian dub used the Mexican dub as a base. :think:

Though I'm using the second Brazilian dub, by Alamo, so maybe the first one by Gota Mágica doesn't have the song. Still, Oolong's VA is different, so it wouldn't work.

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Post by AliTheZombie13 » Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:32 pm

It's important to note here:
Fans sometimes take better care of the source material than the original distributors. A lot of the content distributed by fans on the Internet has been edited to include missing insert songs, be them in Japanese or fandubbed. And Toei has been known to download this content, because they have lost the original masters for the Brazilian Dub. "Muffled audio downloaded from the Internet" is a common complaint from fans when Toei content gets legally distributed in streaming.

I know for a fact that we didn't get the second, third and fourth ending songs of GT in Portuguese, but they have been fandubbed and inserted back into the show in copies distributed by the fans.

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Post by DragonBallSyndicate » Wed Nov 20, 2024 3:52 pm

AliTheZombie13 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:32 pm It's important to note here:
Fans sometimes take better care of the source material than the original distributors. A lot of the content distributed by fans on the Internet has been edited to include missing insert songs, be them in Japanese or fandubbed. And Toei has been known to download this content, because they have lost the original masters for the Brazilian Dub. "Muffled audio downloaded from the Internet" is a common complaint from fans when Toei content gets legally distributed in streaming.

I know for a fact that we didn't get the second, third and fourth ending songs of GT in Portuguese, but they have been fandubbed and inserted back into the show in copies distributed by the fans.
I think it's very common in Japan for certain content to not care about it, or lose their source material. I think Nintendo apparently lost a lot of source material for their N64
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Post by Caulifor » Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:46 pm

AliTheZombie13 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:32 pm It's important to note here:
Fans sometimes take better care of the source material than the original distributors. A lot of the content distributed by fans on the Internet has been edited to include missing insert songs, be them in Japanese or fandubbed. And Toei has been known to download this content, because they have lost the original masters for the Brazilian Dub. "Muffled audio downloaded from the Internet" is a common complaint from fans when Toei content gets legally distributed in streaming.

I know for a fact that we didn't get the second, third and fourth ending songs of GT in Portuguese, but they have been fandubbed and inserted back into the show in copies distributed by the fans.
Oh, I had no idea. Damn, if that insert song is one of those cases, then it's the first time the fans fixing something actually screwed me over :lol:

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