GreatSaiyaman123 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:41 pm
Assuming that anime and manga Goku are more or less the same, are the foes SSJB Goku fights early in the manga weaker than their anime counterparts? Since Goku was using an imperfect version of SSJB up to the Zamasu fight.
Basically if SSJG Goku is a 1. Anime SSJB is going to be a 50, but in the manga Goku needs PSSJB to use this 50, so his SSJB power is usually much lower, a 5 or so. So that would mean Golden Freeza, Hit and Goku Black are all much weaker in the manga, right?
Or is it the other way around? SSJB has always been 50x, but then PSSJB is 500x to mirror the anime stacking SSJB with KKx10? That would also track with the manga and movies portraying Blue as a force to be reckoned with (Unlike the anime where Goku goes Blue and struggles every episode), but it makes characters like Toppo or 17 much stronger than their anime selves.
I think if you disregard the spectacle of the anime, the power levels are relatively consistent to a point.
It's never actually stated that SSB is 50x SSG, it's just the common belief because "it's super saiyan god gone super saiyan". That said, the gist of the Hit fight was that Goku needed to output 10x the power Vegeta had against Hit in order to gain an advantage. That means either that SSB is roughly 10x stronger than SSG or that Goku can push the form even higher with the kaioken. Regardless, it's still a "power up from SSG", as put by Beerus.
In the Black arc we can definitely see the difference in mediums tho, but mostly because the "power levels" in the manga were so weird. In the manga, Black was stronger in his normal state than Trunks' mutated SS2 that was on par with Goku's SS3. That makes him more or less equal to his anime counterpart. For some reason, Toyo and Tori gave up on that idea and had Black, as a
Super Saiyan, lose badly to Vegeta in the same form. Still, Black's Rosé form was as much as a powerhouse as in the anime, and only lost when Vegeta returned stronger than ever.
Merged Zamasu, however, is weaker. That's a no brainer. Zamasu was significantly weaker in the manga, so it stands to reason that M. Zamasu is pretty much Goku Black's power with Zamasu's immortality, which allows him to contend with the full power of the SSGSS form (weirdly, however, since Black HAS that same form, and with immortality he should have no stamina problem preventing him from accessing 100% of it just like CSSB).
To me, Jiren was basically as strong in the anime as he was in the manga. The only difference is that he had no "shirtless super power" moment, but that was still implied as he was catching up to UI Goku and eventually even bested him.
The rest of the players of the TOP tho, yeah, I can see them being weaker overall. Dyspo had no speed gimmick, Toppo didn't go GoD mode, Kefla tied with
Gohan for some reason. So on and so forth.
