What was Toyotaro's involvement with the production of the Dragon Ball Super TV series?

[taikufuru]

After all, what was Toyotaro's involvement with the production of the Dragon Ball Super TV series?

It is assumed that the manga came about as a way to promote the then-new Dragon Ball Super TV series.

Are there any reports or official information about Toyotaro's involvement with the production of the TV series?

Was it something separate? Did each person adapt Toriyama's outline in their own way without communicating with each other? Did they work together and have access to the scripts/storyboards?

[Vegeta th3 4th]

Did each person adapt Toriyama's outline in their own way without communicating with each other?

Pretty much, although there are exceptions. It was Toyotaro's idea to bring Vegetto back, which both Toei and Toriyama greed to. Omen and Blue Evolution were Toei ideas that Toyotaro adapted into his own manga.

[Zephyr]

Toyotaro also helped design some of the Gods of Destruction for the Tournament of Power arc.

[taikufuru]

Did each person adapt Toriyama's outline in their own way without communicating with each other?

Pretty much, although there are exceptions. It was Toyotaro's idea to bring Vegetto back, which both Toei and Toriyama greed to. Omen and Blue Evolution were Toei ideas that Toyotaro adapted into his own manga.

I wonder if this inclusion of Vegetto was done before Toriyama passed the drafts to Toei or if it was done together with the three of them during the production phase of the episodes/chapters.

[Dragon Ball Ireland]

Yeah, Toyotaro designed some of the Gods of Destruction, but apart from suggesting ideas he was not involved in the production of the Super anime, he was an employee of Shueshia and not in the field of animation.

Much like Toriyama back in the day came up with ideas that ended up in the anime like the Saiyan/Tsufurian lore, Yamcha being a baseball player and Lunch chasing after Tien, but he was never involved in the production side or wrote any scripts.

[JulieYBM]

The use of Vegetto is just merchandising and fan service. Toriyama's original notes had Gokuu and Vegeta defeat Zamasu as a team, I believe, not with Potara merging.

[Vegeta th3 4th]

I wonder if this inclusion of Vegetto was done before Toriyama passed the drafts to Toei or if it was done together with the three of them during the production phase of the episodes/chapters.

It's such a shame we never got a guidebook for the modern material that can answer some of these behind the scenes questions.

[taikufuru]

Yes. I doubt they'll ever talk about it in detail, making Toriyama's drafts available in full. But it would be nice to have a guidebook that would provide more information, similar to what Daizenshuu highlighted as the author's contributions to the original TV series. Who knows, maybe a 40-year anime guidebook next year?

[Vegard Aune]

I wonder if this inclusion of Vegetto was done before Toriyama passed the drafts to Toei or if it was done together with the three of them during the production phase of the episodes/chapters.

Considering what Toyotaro said on the matter in DBS volume 4, paraphrased:

Merged Zamasu wasn't actually all that strong in Toriyama-sensei's notes. He was immortal, but his strength was at a level where Goku and Vegeta could still contend with him as Super Saiyan Blue, so the fight was more about his immortality and the time limit, with Goku and Vegeta taking turns fighting. Vegetto didn't get involved. Considering their personalities, Goku and Vegeta would almost certainly never fuse again after the battle with Majin Boo, but I thought fans would want to see that, so we decided to steer the story in a direction where they'd have no choice.

...I think the suggestion would have had to have happened very early on. Because the manga and anime both have Merged Zamasu be an unstoppable force of nature that forces Goku and Vegeta to fuse, resulting in a no-holds-barred beatdown that likely would have taken Zamasu out for good if they didn't "overload" the Fusion and defuse too early. Sure, the specifics of what he's capable of differ, but I don't think anyone could possibly look at Merged Zamasu in either the anime or the manga and say "Yeah he's not that tough, Goku and Vegeta could totally 1v1 him and it'd be fine."

[PhantomSaiyan]

I don't think anyone could possibly look at Merged Zamasu in either the anime or the manga and say "Yeah he's not that tough, Goku and Vegeta could totally 1v1 him and it'd be fine."

But I think that there definitely was some left over from this initial idea that made it into Super:

• In the Manga after the Vegito fight where he absolutely stomps Merged Zamasu, Goku takes him on 1 vs 1 with his Perfected SSBlue form, and actually fights toe to toe with him. It isn't until later that he becomes truly unstoppable in the manga, after he splits and the Zamasu army is created

• In the Anime, before the Vegito fight Goku manages to fight somewhat evenly with him using Kaioken, and then overpowers him in the beam struggle

A common interpretation at least whe nit comes to the manga is that Zamasu was weakened in the Vegito fight, and yeah I can see that. Also, I always interpreted the statement from the Toriyama interview as "Goku and Vegeta can take him on in SSBlue together not individually, so it still tracks that Goku alone could overpower a post Vegito fight Zamasu alone. As for the anime, I have no idea how he managed to do that when even Vegito was shown to be struggling a little

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Did each person adapt Toriyama's outline in their own way without communicating with each other?

Pretty much, although there are exceptions. It was Toyotaro's idea to bring Vegetto back, which both Toei and Toriyama greed to. Omen and Blue Evolution were Toei ideas that Toyotaro adapted into his own manga.

I wonder if this inclusion of Vegetto was done before Toriyama passed the drafts to Toei or if it was done together with the three of them during the production phase of the episodes/chapters.

Vegetto was definitely a late addition as Yamamuro didn't even do the character design for him. The fact that Toei and Toyo also named him differently tells me that there probably wasn't much of a conversation beyond maybe Toriyama telling the anime staff half way through or something "oh btw Vegetto will re-appear in the manga so I don't know if you guys want to use him too aswell if so here's a retcon for the Potara"

[Mystic-han]

It's unknown if he worked alongside them or not , and so far
The super anime take the following from the manga

1_ Vegetto blue and Goku having a 1on1 against fused zamasu
2_ some of the kaioshin and Hakaishin designs and TOP warriors
3_ Red and blue switch combo


That's pretty much it

[taikufuru]

I wonder if Toyotarō had prior access to the TV series' storyboards and scripts to help him create the manga, since all he had were general story drafts.