What have the American/UK Dubs... DONE RIGHT?

[ThunderPX]

I think "Son Goku" was only used once though.

[Blue]

Funi did a really good Dragonball dub and a good Boo saga dub.

To me the following characters were casted very,very well in the Funi dub of Z (that is to say I wouldn't want anything other than them.)
Chouzu
Gero
18
17
Cell
Dabra
Kaioshin
Tenkaichi Budokai Announcer
Kuririn
Mr.Satan
Coola
Ghurd
Goten
Videl
Kid Trunks

[Tsukento]

Yes, all four of them.

You'd actually be surprised about how many of them actually exist. Lord knows how many poorly written pieces of hate messages I got from 4Kids dub fans when I worked on my Top 10 Worst 4Kids Dub Moments for One Piece. >_o;

[Super Sonic]

Yes, all four of them.

You'd actually be surprised about how many of them actually exist. Lord knows how many poorly written pieces of hate messages I got from 4Kids dub fans when I worked on my Top 10 Worst 4Kids Dub Moments for One Piece. >_o;

Perhaps they were fans of their cast members in other shows or something. Or really had a thing for their Zoro, who was one of the few guys people liked from the 4Kids dub.

Well, let's be fair here. While the TV version of Gundam Wing (I never watched the TV version of Outlaw Star) may not have used the word "kill," that was dubbed back in 1999-2000. And back then, DBZ wasn't exactly consistent in its use either. Sure, FUNimation may have loosened up a bit (as did Toonami) as time went on with the dub, but back in 2000...yeah. Plus, Bandai was offering a genuine uncut release back then. Whereas FUNimation gave us...well, "friggin."

...>__>...<__<...>__>

...i just watched the Gundam Wing dub the other day on DVD, and it fucking ROCKED. Not only that, but they mentioned death, "kill", and cursed as much or more than the original script did. You guys never saw the uncut dub, did you...? Or the version they played on the Midnight Run perhaps...?

Emphasis added.

I was talking about the daytime airings, which is what I think Super Sonic was referring to as well. Personally, I've owned the DVD release of Gundam Wing since...err, 2002 or so (including Endless Waltz). So yes, I've seen the dub uncut. Quite a bit at that.

Yeah I was referring to the daytime airings. And while I agree that the Gundam Wing and Outlaw Star uncut dubs were better than DBZ's at the time, it was just noticible that DB/Z and YYH could make mention of things ending fatally, while the Bandai shows often replaced it with terms that didn't seem so serious. (For those who haven't watched either in awhile, they didn't just replace "kill" with "destroy". They often replaced it with "hurt", "get", "fight", "stop", and others that could make things a little confusing.) That and it was kinda funny on Midnight Run that G Gundam couldn't use the word "kill" yet depict killing, while G.I. Joe could use the word "kill" but couldn't depict killing, aside from that Snake woman and Bat-guy from the movie.

[Adamant]

Perhaps they were fans of their cast members in other shows or something. Or really had a thing for their Zoro, who was one of the few guys people liked from the 4Kids dub.

Or maybe they, you know, just liked the dub? I mean, shit, there are people who like Funi's Dragonball dub too, it's not like that one is any better.

[Super Sonic]

You have no clue how much was changed Adamant, do you? Let me tell us Yanks can tell you it is quite different and better and not as censored. But some people have their preferences to what they like or don't like. Heck, not to call you guys out, but I think you and penguin and all the guys who don't like the Funimation dub would rather watch it than watch Superbook and Flying House in Japanese with subtitles.

[Adamant]

But some people have their preferences to what they like or don't like.

Yeah, that was kind of my point. Some people may prefer the horrendous 4Kids One Piece dub or Funi Dragonball dub for whatever reason.

I think you and penguin and all the guys who don't like the Funimation dub would rather watch it than watch Superbook and Flying House in Japanese with subtitles.

Sorry, but I'd rather chance watching something I've never heard of before than something I know I won't like.

[Big Momma]

You have no clue how much was changed Adamant, do you? Let me tell us Yanks can tell you it is quite different and better and not as censored. But some people have their preferences to what they like or don't like. Heck, not to call you guys out, but I think you and penguin and all the guys who don't like the Funimation dub would rather watch it than watch Superbook and Flying House in Japanese with subtitles.

Who wouldn't? I loved those shows growing up!

If you ever find SuperBook or Flying House in Japanese with subtitles, I am begging you to let me know.

[MajinVejitaXV]

Yeah I was referring to the daytime airings. And while I agree that the Gundam Wing and Outlaw Star uncut dubs were better than DBZ's at the time, it was just noticible that DB/Z and YYH could make mention of things ending fatally, while the Bandai shows often replaced it with terms that didn't seem so serious.

Again, FUNimation wasn't consistent themselves with the "die"/"kill" thing for a bit on the TV airings with DragonBall Z starting with season 3's premiere. And Gundam Wing and Outlaw Star were both dubbed in 1999/2000, which was a couple of years before FUNimation got more consistent (and YYH was even acquired by them). I think you're not really considering how great a difference such a small time-frame can make. I mean, Adult Swim came along in 2001 and that's when the censorship situation really changed.

[Thanos]

"What have the American/UK Dubs... DONE RIGHT?"

Is that a trick question?

[Brad Redfield]

Goku getting punched in the balls by Super 13.

The one moment where Schemmel outdid Nozawa. I could've felt that one when I heard the dub.

[Metalwario64]

Goku getting punched in the balls by Super 13.

The one moment where Schemmel outdid Nozawa. I could've felt that one when I heard the dub.

Well of course, because Schemmel is a man and knows how bad that would really hurt!

[Onikage725]

I'd say Vegeta theme music, as opposed to relative silence, during the Final Flash scene against Cell.

I could do a list of VA's I've liked between the different versions of the dub, but it wouldn't serve much point. I will say Chris Sabat's Yamcha in DB and Path to Power. For a voice that was on my top 3 hate list when the in-house dub kicked off, he really stepped up his game. Ted Cole, of course, was always the man though.

It was good of them to not re-score original DB, and allowing the option to play the dub with the original score was neat too. Not that *I* care, but it just seemed like an extra getsure they didn't need to do. Yet a lot of dub fans seem to appreciate it. It does at least give someone who follows the dub through the various season sets some musical consistency as they transition from DB to DBZ.

[Super Sonic]

Goku getting punched in the balls by Super 13.

The one moment where Schemmel outdid Nozawa. I could've felt that one when I heard the dub.

Well of course, because Schemmel is a man and knows how bad that would really hurt!

Definately. Not that I'm badmouthing Nozawa, Nozawa fans, but so you know, there are just some things in this world that you have to be a man to understand.

[bkev]

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but from the little I've heard of the Blue Water dub of the original series it was pretty solid - Nyoibou, Son Goku and all. I always liked Zoe Slusar as Goku anyway.

[ThunderPX]

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but from the little I've heard of the Blue Water dub of the original series it was pretty solid - Nyoibou, Son Goku and all. I always liked Zoe Slusar as Goku anyway.

It was mentioned last page... and I now I shall redirect you to my reply at the top of this one.

[Puto]

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but from the little I've heard of the Blue Water dub of the original series it was pretty solid - Nyoibou, Son Goku and all. I always liked Zoe Slusar as Goku anyway.

Also "Tao Pai Pai" instead of "Mercenary Tao", the original names for the evil dragons in GT, "Ôzaru" (though it's pronounced wrong), and "Tsufuls" instead of the utterly atrocious name that is "Tuffles" (Seriously, "Tuffles" reminds me of "Waffles"). Unfortunately, though, they still used "T-ien" :/

[Super Sonic]

While I didn't care for GT, will say, thought what Funimation did for the names of the evil dragons was kinda clever on thier part. Guessing change was from fear they'd flub pronounciation of Japanese names, or thought simply translating as 1-star, etc would be lame.

[Puto]

Except calling Yi Xing Long's final form "Omega Shenron" sounded really lame, imo.

That, and who the hell had the idea of coming up with "Majuub"?!

[Big Momma]

(Seriously, "Tuffles" reminds me of "Waffles"). Unfortunately, though, they still used "Tenshinhan" :/

I think Tuffles is actually a pun on Truffles.