Freeza knowing of someone more powerful than him?
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Freeza knowing of someone more powerful than him?
Freeza conquered planets so he could sell them for profit, but why would he need money? He's the strongest being in the universe. If he wanted something he could just take it.
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Re: Freeza knowing of someone more powerfull then him?
That's exactly what he did. Either way, I don't see how it had anything to do with Freeza knowing of someone that potentially surpassed him in strength. Because as far as the story is concerned, no one besides Buu existed that was stronger than him (before Super Saiyan became a staple). Freeza seemed pretty sure that he was the strongest person in the universe, and that was never contradicted.ringworm128 wrote:hes the strongest being in the universe. if he wanted something he could just take it.
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Re: Freeza knowing of someone more powerfull then him?
But why would he sell them for money, unless he has a green paper fetish?Savage68 wrote:That's exactly what he did. Either way, I don't see how it had anything to do with Freeza knowing of someone that potentially surpassed him in strength. Because as far as the story is concerned, no one besides Buu existed that was stronger than him (before Super Saiyan became a staple). Freeza seemed pretty sure that he was the strongest person in the universe, and that was never contradicted.ringworm128 wrote:hes the strongest being in the universe. if he wanted something he could just take it.
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What does Freeza selling planets have to do with anyone being stronger than him? I fail to see the connection.
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Re: Freeza knowing of someone more powerfull then him?
He sells planets for profit, but the only need he could possibly have for money is to buy things, but Freeza could just take things, so why dose he need money? The only explanation is that he knew of beings that were stronger then him, so he could just pay them with money to go away.Kaboom wrote:What does Freeza selling planets have to do with anyone being stronger than him? I fail to see the connection.
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Re: Freeza knowing of someone more powerfull then him?
Cell is stronger than Frieza and was made before Gero knew about the Super Saiyan ability, right?Savage68 wrote:That's exactly what he did. Either way, I don't see how it had anything to do with Freeza knowing of someone that potentially surpassed him in strength. Because as far as the story is concerned, no one besides Buu existed that was stronger than him (before Super Saiyan became a staple). Freeza seemed pretty sure that he was the strongest person in the universe, and that was never contradicted.ringworm128 wrote:hes the strongest being in the universe. if he wanted something he could just take it.
Frieza HAD to know someone would be stronger at one point:
1. That's why he wanted the Saiyans dead.
2. That level of cockiness is always the villain's downfall.
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Right. But Cell was just a speck of organic material at the time of Goku turning SSJ.LeprikanGT wrote:Cell is stronger than Freeza and was made before Gero knew about the Super Saiyan ability right?
His fear was the Saiyans' collective power, and the rate at which it grew. He was never implied to be fearful of any single person.LeprikanGT wrote:Freeza HAD to know someone would be stronger at one point. 1. thats why he wanted the saiyans dead.
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Freeza seems to enjoy playing by 'the rules' for the most part. He prefers making deals, having subordinates, etc. Obviously, if anything at all goes against him he drops that like a hot potato and just blows stuff up, but for the most part everything's a game to him. And like a game, one could just cheat/exploit and win easily, but where's the fun in that?
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Using your own logic, why would these stronger beings go away for money? They'd be strong enough to take whatever they wanted.ringworm128 wrote:He sells planets for profit. But the only need he could possibly have for money is to buy things but Freeza could just take things. so why dose he need money? The only explanation is that he new of beings that were stronger then him. So he could just pay them with money to go away.Kaboom wrote:What does Freeza selling planets have to do with anyone being stronger than him? I fail to see the connection.
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Didn't think of that.Bussani wrote:Using your own logic, why would these stronger beings go away for money? They'd be strong enough to take whatever they wanted.ringworm128 wrote:He sells planets for profit. But the only need he could possibly have for money is to buy things but Freeza could just take things. so why dose he need money? The only explanation is that he new of beings that were stronger then him. So he could just pay them with money to go away.Kaboom wrote:What does Freeza selling planets have to do with anyone being stronger than him? I fail to see the connection.
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Re: Freeza knowing of someone more powerfull then him?
His father King Cold, was stronger than him. He must've known that.Savage68 wrote:That's exactly what he did. Either way, I don't see how it had anything to do with Freeza knowing of someone that potentially surpassed him in strength. Because as far as the story is concerned, no one besides Buu existed that was stronger than him (before Super Saiyan became a staple). Freeza seemed pretty sure that he was the strongest person in the universe, and that was never contradicted.ringworm128 wrote:hes the strongest being in the universe. if he wanted something he could just take it.
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What evidence is there of that?Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:His father King Cold, was stronger than him.
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What about Dabura, does he count?
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King Cold...stronger than Freeza?Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:His father King Cold, was stronger than him. He must've known that.
Everything canonical points in the opposite direction.
He presided in an alternate dimension from the usual one.Kid Buu wrote:What about Dabura, does he count?
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No he wasn't. When Freeza was killed, he wanted to hire Trunks as his son so that the strongest force would stay within his family.Piccolo Daimaoh wrote:His father King Cold, was stronger than him. He must've known that.Savage68 wrote:That's exactly what he did. Either way, I don't see how it had anything to do with Freeza knowing of someone that potentially surpassed him in strength. Because as far as the story is concerned, no one besides Buu existed that was stronger than him (before Super Saiyan became a staple). Freeza seemed pretty sure that he was the strongest person in the universe, and that was never contradicted.ringworm128 wrote:hes the strongest being in the universe. if he wanted something he could just take it.
SSJ Trunks > Mecha Freeza > King Cold
They never mention that King Cold's power is greater though. It's just that he probably can't transform more, so he can't access his full power.
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Re: Freeza knowing of someone more powerfull then him?
Really? I just thought since he's Freeza's father, he must be stronger than his son.Savage68 wrote: King Cold...stronger than Freeza?
Everything canonical points in the opposite direction.
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I think King Cold is stated to be stronger in the dub, but even then that's just the dub.
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Re: Freeza knowing of someone more powerfull then him?
King Cold is pretty much implied to be stronger in the anime, no matter which version it is. Even in DBK, certain lines are left in that makes Cold seem like hot stuff compared to Freeza. But the general point is that it's irrelevant.
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Conquering and selling planets is a cool thing to do. That's why. You feel more powerful in that kind of business.ringworm128 wrote:But why would he sell them for money? unless he has a green paper fetish?
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In all fairness, SSJ Trunks dwarfing both of them doesn't proove Mecha Freeza is stronger than Cold. It's the Daizenshuu bios that claim Freeza is stronger, IIRC, not the story. All the story gets us is a confirmation that one Ki is greater than the other, that Mecha Freeza's not at full strength, and that full-strength Mecha Freeza is stronger than full-strength Namek Freeza.Godo wrote: No he wasn't. When Freeza was killed, he wanted to hire Trunks as his son so that the strongest force would stay within his family.
SSJ Trunks > Mecha Freeza > King Cold
They never mention that King Cold's power is greater though. It's just that he probably can't transform more, so he can't access his full power.
There's also nothing hinting that Cold can't transform.
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