Raditz and his scouter
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Raditz and his scouter
1. Why couldn't Raditz detect PL of Mr.Popo and Kami?
2. When he calculated the PL of the farmer is this the PL of the farmer self or farmer + shotgun.
2. When he calculated the PL of the farmer is this the PL of the farmer self or farmer + shotgun.
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Re: Raditz an his scouter
The strongest PL in range was Piccolo's, so anything less was insignificant since he was after Goku. Note that he didn't even bother to kill Piccolo once Goku's PL showed up. And yes, it's just the farmer's PL.JDrozen wrote:1. Why couldn't Raditz detect PL of Mr.Popo and Kami?
2. When he calculated the PL of the farmer is this the PL of the farmer self or farmer + shotgun.
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I believe Raditz's scouter could not detect Mr. Popo, and Kami-Sama, because they were so far out of scouter range, and he could most likely only detect power's that are actually on the Planet Earth. Kami, and Mr. Popo were on the lookout.
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If I recall correctly, Kami was supposed to be just as powerful as Majunior at any time that they were split.
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The use was correct, The S meant Ma Junior. Daimao refers to "King Piccolo" or "Piccolo Daimao", where as Ma Junior refers to the the offspring of Piccolo Daimao just before he dies. Later the name Ma Junior is phased out and everyone just refers to him as Piccolotealsmith wrote:Don't you mean Daimao, and not Junior?
Besides, it doesn't make any sense to use Daimao because Piccolo Daimao is technically dead at this point of the series anyway.
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Actually, I think Kami = Piccolo in power, period. He may not be the fighter of the two, but I think the way it works is that all gains in strength made by Piccolo are in turn experinced by Kami. Perhaps to a lessened extent due to his age, or even being split apart, but I'm pretty sure he still got the benefits as well.Gamingdevil wrote:Yeah when they split, but afterwards Piccolo kept training where Kami didn't (or at least not as intense + he's an old man)The S wrote:If I recall correctly, Kami was supposed to be just as powerful as Majunior at any time that they were split.
Hence why Kami + Piccolo = stronger than Imperfect Cell.
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Whoa! Where'd this law come from? That's just Kami and Shenron. The instant Piccolo Daimao used the DBs, this equality between Kami and him was broken.The S wrote:If I recall correctly, Kami was supposed to be just as powerful as Majunior at any time that they were split.
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Okay, I'm not going to argue with you guys over whether Kami-sama is equal to Piccolo in terms of strength or not; let's just put it this way - he's at least IN the power level range as his other half. Meaning, had Raditz been in range to detect him with the scouter, he would have probably gone to investigate.
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I've always assumed, in fact it might be stated somewhere, that when the original Piccolo split, it created two completely seperate people (besides the good and evil business). Therefore I find it hard to imagine that if Piccolo trains, Kami gets stronger while sitting on his butt looking at the sky. Besides, in Chapter 360 Kami admits that Piccolo has become far more powerful than himself. So how can Piccolo and Kami always have equal power, it just doesn't make sense.Xyex wrote:Actually, I think Kami = Piccolo in power, period. He may not be the fighter of the two, but I think the way it works is that all gains in strength made by Piccolo are in turn experinced by Kami. Perhaps to a lessened extent due to his age, or even being split apart, but I'm pretty sure he still got the benefits as well.
I believe this is more because he is now whole. I think Piccolo gets more of a boost in power not because of Kami's powers, but because of the fact that the original Piccolo has been restored. There's no real answer to this question though because it's never stated, we can only assume that it's improbable for Kami to equal Piccolo in power.Xyex wrote:Hence why Kami + Piccolo = stronger than Imperfect Cell.
If you're saying Raditz would have to be closer to Kami-sama than to any of the Z Senshi or Piccolo... then YES, he would investigate the power level.The S wrote:Okay, I'm not going to argue with you guys over whether Kami-sama is equal to Piccolo in terms of strength or not; let's just put it this way - he's at least IN the power level range as his other half. Meaning, had Raditz been in range to detect him with the scouter, he would have probably gone to investigate.
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Come on guys please. Anyway I believe Kami-Sama was equal to Piccolo in power, but he couldn't fight too well. I just think as Piccolo get's stronger through various intense training, Kami-Sama is on the other receiving end of that power increase.
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Well, since God had more good than evil in him when he was separated into two beings, the good part of him being the stronger does make sense. And, as we see when God and Goku meet for the first time, God's power greatly surpasses Goku, who has just proven to be quite a bit stronger than Daimaou was at his prime (which God obviously no longer is). When God and Ma Junior face each other, the difference in power is much smaller. Since the battle was ended in a somewhat unconventional manner rather early on, we never really got to see a real demonstration of God's power, but the two did seem rather equal in power.
After the 23rd Budokai, however, Ma Junior started his intensive training so he could eventually surpass Goku, while God was pretty much just sitting on his ass all day.
By the time Raditz arrived, Ma Junior had clearly surpassed God.
After the 23rd Budokai, however, Ma Junior started his intensive training so he could eventually surpass Goku, while God was pretty much just sitting on his ass all day.
By the time Raditz arrived, Ma Junior had clearly surpassed God.
I agree with that. Also, we can only suppose that scouters don't have global scale range and so didn't detect Mr.Popo's and Kami's Pl (probably 300+).Adamant wrote:Well, since God had more good than evil in him when he was separated into two beings, the good part of him being the stronger does make sense. And, as we see when God and Goku meet for the first time, God's power greatly surpasses Goku, who has just proven to be quite a bit stronger than Daimaou was at his prime (which God obviously no longer is). When God and Ma Junior face each other, the difference in power is much smaller. Since the battle was ended in a somewhat unconventional manner rather early on, we never really got to see a real demonstration of God's power, but the two did seem rather equal in power.
After the 23rd Budokai, however, Ma Junior started his intensive training so he could eventually surpass Goku, while God was pretty much just sitting on his ass all day.
By the time Raditz arrived, Ma Junior had clearly surpassed God.
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Yeah fuck the manga, let's list a video game as canon.Conan the SSJ wrote:Power Level debates, Lord help us, these things variey on merly pure opinons. The only true sources for power levels you can trust are the Japanese version of the anime, the Daizenshuu if it lists power levels, and the DBZ Sagas game.
Like it or not people, power levels did indeed exist in Dragonball! So for the love of whatever god you believe, stop freaking out whenever you see people discussing them. They're just another method of saying "he's stronger than him." Yeesh! Nobody goes ape-tit over the Kili radars!
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