Ever so slightly, one one of two panels that resemble the original work. Some things are traced from frames of the movie, but again, only slightly. You can barely notice it and 99% of the work is completely original. This guy on the other hand, seems like almost all of his work is traced, so you can't really compare the two.StarRot wrote:Wait, Toyble traces too?
Goddamn, I really feel extra disappointed now.
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Eh …
As an artist myself, I’ve got a real loathing for people who trace and try to pass it off at their own work. It just so wrong. And insulting.
This revelation has killed a lot of my enthusiasm for this AF, I have to say.
As an artist myself, I’ve got a real loathing for people who trace and try to pass it off at their own work. It just so wrong. And insulting.
This revelation has killed a lot of my enthusiasm for this AF, I have to say.
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I see, I was not ware of that. I hope the first volume will be uploaded soon (Unless it already has?).DNA wrote:That might have something to do with the fact that this is the second volume.Hellspawn28 wrote:It seems like this story kick's off way too fast since it seems like the action already started and it looks like we don't know how Freeza's son came to Earth?
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It hasn't, I'm still looking to buy it.
It's a very rare doujin.
It's a very rare doujin.
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Heh, I was going to mention the tracings today but it looks I was properly beaten to it.
It's a godawful amount, which kinda puts a damper on it for me. I'm still going to check it out regardless, since I really do find AF comics nifty.
Btw, thanks for the links to your proxies. I'll keep a look out for the comic too. I was also able to buy a pretty cool looking AF figure on the website.
It's a godawful amount, which kinda puts a damper on it for me. I'm still going to check it out regardless, since I really do find AF comics nifty.
Btw, thanks for the links to your proxies. I'll keep a look out for the comic too. I was also able to buy a pretty cool looking AF figure on the website.
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I sent a request to SOSJapan is they could find volume 1 as they are very good at finding really rare stuff, this is their reply:
Of course, this means it'll be nightmare-ish to find the damn thing.
Not created or published in Japan? Hmm ... and yet, it is in Japanese ... I wonder ... There's a chance SOS could be wrong, but they're pretty dead on with their information 90% of the time.was unable to find at any online shops that we have searched.
Based on our resarch, this Dragon Ball AF is created out side of Japan, and
not pubulished anywhere in Japan.
We do apologize that we could not live up to your expectations at this time.
If you have any other questions, please let us know.
Of course, this means it'll be nightmare-ish to find the damn thing.
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The doujinshi looks good but the tacing thing really is not ok
I'd be more interested in the story if it wasn't GT though
I'd be more interested in the story if it wasn't GT though
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Hi, i cleaned the scans to have the good images possible for the translation:
http://www.mediafire.com/?jwggk7tj5o82ytd
http://www.mediafire.com/?jwggk7tj5o82ytd
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Aw, just read about the tracing/copying. That really sucks. But strangely I'm still curious about the first and possibly third volume.
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Page 1
Character Introduction
Son Gohan
Son Goten
Pan
Ize
Vegeta
Trunks
Oob
Son Goku
The Story So Far
Up until now Goku and co. have grown and grown as they’ve fought numerous powerful enemies. And so, they defeated their strongest enemy, Yi Xing Long, after a grueling battle. Three years have gone by since that fierce fight.
With Goku gone, the Earth was peaceful…But across the universe, “Ize”, the son of Goku’s vanquished enemy Freeza, was born.
Ize destroyed many planets throughout the universe as he sought strong opponents.
And then, having learned about his father’s killer, Son Goku, Ize headed for Earth. Gohan and the other warriors of Earth stood against him.
*This is a doujinshi.
Young Jijii
Page 4
Chapter Two: The Fearsome Ize
Freeza: Ho—ohhoh hohhohhoh!!
Freeza: [r] Looks like he’s grown up splendidly. Such an adorable child. [l] Now I’ll finally have my revenge on those pitiful Saiyans!!
Gohan: [r] 50 years!! …Which means…[l] That he’s 10 times stronger than Freeza?
Piccolo: It’d be something like that, if you calculate it in simple terms.
Page 5
Piccolo: [r] However…I have an uneasy premonition. [l] You’d better not hesitate to all fight him together!!
Gohan: I understand. I’m feeling tense too.
Gohan: Vegeta-san!
Gohan: We’ll help too!!
Vegeta: …Hmph…
Vegeta: I’m not going to rely on a bunch of slackers like you. I’m more than enough on my own!! So just keep quiet and watch!!
Page 6
Ize: [r] Well then…Let us continue. [l] I’m looking forward to seeing just how powerful you are.
Vegeta: [t] Looks like you’re more capable than I thought…I underestimated you a little. Now for the main event.
Page 10
Vegeta: Guh!!
Ize: Don’t tell me that was your true power.
Ize: If so, I’m quite disappointed.
Vegeta: …Hmph
Vegeta: Relax…This still isn’t all of my power.
Page 11
Vegeta: I never thought I’d have to use this just to deal with the likes of you…
Vegeta: Trunks!
Vegeta: Fire this at me!
Trunks: …! What is this?
Vegeta: It’s a hand-held Bruits Wave Generator. I had Bulma make it.
Trunks: Bruits Wave…So that means…Dad, don’t tell me…
Page 12
Vegeta: Alright then…Let’s go!!!
Trunks: Ye…Yes sir!!
Vegeta: OOOO---OH!!!
Vegeta: AAAH…
Page 13
Vegeta: HAAAAH!!!
Page 14
Vegeta: [r] Thanks for waiting. Now I’ll show you what happens when I get serious!! [l] You’re gonna regret this!!
Ize: That’s quite a strange transformation for an Earthling.
Ize: Alright then…Let’s start Round 2.
Page 18
Vegeat: Final Shine…
Vegeta: ATTAA---AACK!!!
Page 20
Ize: Guh…guguh…
Ize: He…he can’t be…this strong…
Oob: Incredible! Too incredible…
Random goons: [r] Is Ize-sama OK? [l] This is bad! If we don’t treat him right away…
Vegeta: Heh
Page 21
Ize: Suh…
Ize: Tap
Ize: Heh—
Page 22
Ize: Quite frankly, I didn’t think that you’d be this good. …Well then, I’ll get a little serious myself.
Vegeta: Serious? Are you saying you haven’t been serious up until now?
Ize: That’s right!
Vegeta: Hah, don’t make me laugh! If you’re going to be a poor loser and bluff like that, you could at least make it more realistic!!
Gohan: …It…it can’t be…
Page 23
Ize: HAAAAAAH…!!!
Ize: Ah, ah…
Ize: HAAH!!
Page 24
Ize: [r] Haah!! [l] Haah!!
Page 25
Vegeta: [r] No…no way…[l] This can’t be…
Oob: He tran…transformed?
Ize: I’ve gotten a little stronger. Please don’t die too easily.
Page 27
Vegeta: Aguh…uh!!
Page 28
Gohan: Vegeta-san, behind you!!!
Vegeta: Guh!!
Page 29
Vegeta: Kuh!!
Page 30
Vegeta: SOO---OOH!!
Page 32
Vegeta: Guh…guh guh…
Trunks: Dad!!!
Gohan: [r] Goten! Trunks! Oob! [l] At this rate, we’ll all going to be done for! Let’s all help Vegeta-san!
Trunks: Ri…right!
Trunks: Pan-chan, take this…
Pan: Eh…OK!
Trunks: Goten! Let’s use Fusion!!
Goten: Right!
Page 33
Goten+Trunks: Fu…
GT: Sion!!
GT: HAH!!!
Page 34
Oob: I’ll show you the fruits of my training!!
Oob: HAAH…!!
Gotenks: Let’s go, Oob!!!
Oob: Right!!
Page 35
Ize: Oh…is it over already?...
Ize: Wha?!!
Page 36
Ize: Do you guys want to play with me too?
Page 37
Gohan: Pan!
Gohan: Fire that gun at me.
Pan: Eh?!
Pan: But papa…Won’t you turn into an Oozaru if you’re exposed to Bruits Waves?...
Gohan: Yeah, I understand. But…I can’t defeat him the way I am now.
Gohan: It’s an all-or-nothing gamble, but…
Gohan: I’m going to become a Super Saiyan 4 too!!
Pan: Papa, you’re going to become a Super Saiyan 4?
Gohan: Yeah.
Gohan: That’s why I want you to help me, Pan.
Pan: Help you?
Page 38
Gohan: [r] When Vegeta-san came to Earth, I transformed into an Oozaru. At the time, I heard Kuririn-san and father’s voices!! [l] Perhaps because of my Earthling blood, I have a high chance of regaining my senses!
Gohan: [r] Becoming a Super Saiyan 4 is a matter of transforming into an Oozaru and then coming to your senses. [l] So when I become an Oozaru, I want you to call out to me.
Gohan: Your voice should definitely get through to me.
Pan: I understand. Let’s try it!
Gohan: Thanks. I’m counting on you, Pan.
Page 39
Pan: Let’s go, Papa.
Gohan: Yeah!
Gohan: UOOOO---OH!!!
Page 41
Ize: !! What is that huge monkey!?
Oob: Gohan-san’s become an Oozaru!!
Gohan: GUOOOH!!
Page 43
Gohan: GAAAH
Pan: Papa!!!
Pan: It’s me! Pan!! Can’t you tell? It’s your daughter Pan!!
Gohan: Gah…!
Gohan: Uh..ugah..uuh…
Pan: Papa!! Come to your senses!! Papa!!!
Gohan: GAAAA---AH!!
Page 44
Gohan: HAAAA---AH!!!
Page 46
Pan: Amazing! Papa, you’ve managed to become a Super Saiyan 4!!
Gohan: Thank you. It’s all thanks to you, Pan.
Gohan: Alright! I can fight too like this!!
Vegeta: Cheh! He transformed right away! That really drives me crazy!
Oob: Incredible! Gohan-san’s a Super Saiyan 4 too!! Now we can manage something!
Gohan: Vegeta-san! Let’s all of us fight together!
Page 47
Vegeta: Cheh! I can’t believe we’re having such a hard fight against some of Freeza’s leftovers.
Vegeta: OK then Gohan, try not to drag me down!!
Gohan: Right!!
Vegeta: Let’s go!!!
Page 49
Vegeta: HAAAA---AH!!!
Vegeta: Big Bang Atta----ack!!!
Page 50
Oob: take this!!
Oob: Super Chocolate Beam!!
Gotenks: Kiai Cannon!!!
Page 51
Ize: Guh!!!
Gohan: [r] Ka—ah…[l] Me—eh…
Gohan: [r] Ha—ah…[l] Me—eh…
Gohan: HAA----AAH!!!
Page 52
Ize: …Uh…
Ize: UAAA—AH!!!
Page 53
Pan: Kyaaa---ah!!
Page 54
Gohan: [r] Haah…haah…[l] …It’s over…
Vegeta: Cheh…That took longer than I thought!!
Random goons: Ize-sama!!
Vegeta: Th…this can’t be…
Page 55
Gotenks: [t] I'm…impossible…He took all that…
Oob: He…he’s a monster…
Ize: [r] I’ve had enough fun. Thank you…I’ve managed to work off some stress. Let me offer you a small present in return. [l] I’ll put you all out of your misery…with my true form. It will only take an instant, so you won’t have to suffer.
Vegeta: Did you say…your ”true form”…?
Ize: Well then…I shall show you all!! My true form!!!
Character Introduction
Son Gohan
Son Goten
Pan
Ize
Vegeta
Trunks
Oob
Son Goku
The Story So Far
Up until now Goku and co. have grown and grown as they’ve fought numerous powerful enemies. And so, they defeated their strongest enemy, Yi Xing Long, after a grueling battle. Three years have gone by since that fierce fight.
With Goku gone, the Earth was peaceful…But across the universe, “Ize”, the son of Goku’s vanquished enemy Freeza, was born.
Ize destroyed many planets throughout the universe as he sought strong opponents.
And then, having learned about his father’s killer, Son Goku, Ize headed for Earth. Gohan and the other warriors of Earth stood against him.
*This is a doujinshi.
Young Jijii
Page 4
Chapter Two: The Fearsome Ize
Freeza: Ho—ohhoh hohhohhoh!!
Freeza: [r] Looks like he’s grown up splendidly. Such an adorable child. [l] Now I’ll finally have my revenge on those pitiful Saiyans!!
Gohan: [r] 50 years!! …Which means…[l] That he’s 10 times stronger than Freeza?
Piccolo: It’d be something like that, if you calculate it in simple terms.
Page 5
Piccolo: [r] However…I have an uneasy premonition. [l] You’d better not hesitate to all fight him together!!
Gohan: I understand. I’m feeling tense too.
Gohan: Vegeta-san!
Gohan: We’ll help too!!
Vegeta: …Hmph…
Vegeta: I’m not going to rely on a bunch of slackers like you. I’m more than enough on my own!! So just keep quiet and watch!!
Page 6
Ize: [r] Well then…Let us continue. [l] I’m looking forward to seeing just how powerful you are.
Vegeta: [t] Looks like you’re more capable than I thought…I underestimated you a little. Now for the main event.
Page 10
Vegeta: Guh!!
Ize: Don’t tell me that was your true power.
Ize: If so, I’m quite disappointed.
Vegeta: …Hmph
Vegeta: Relax…This still isn’t all of my power.
Page 11
Vegeta: I never thought I’d have to use this just to deal with the likes of you…
Vegeta: Trunks!
Vegeta: Fire this at me!
Trunks: …! What is this?
Vegeta: It’s a hand-held Bruits Wave Generator. I had Bulma make it.
Trunks: Bruits Wave…So that means…Dad, don’t tell me…
Page 12
Vegeta: Alright then…Let’s go!!!
Trunks: Ye…Yes sir!!
Vegeta: OOOO---OH!!!
Vegeta: AAAH…
Page 13
Vegeta: HAAAAH!!!
Page 14
Vegeta: [r] Thanks for waiting. Now I’ll show you what happens when I get serious!! [l] You’re gonna regret this!!
Ize: That’s quite a strange transformation for an Earthling.
Ize: Alright then…Let’s start Round 2.
Page 18
Vegeat: Final Shine…
Vegeta: ATTAA---AACK!!!
Page 20
Ize: Guh…guguh…
Ize: He…he can’t be…this strong…
Oob: Incredible! Too incredible…
Random goons: [r] Is Ize-sama OK? [l] This is bad! If we don’t treat him right away…
Vegeta: Heh
Page 21
Ize: Suh…
Ize: Tap
Ize: Heh—
Page 22
Ize: Quite frankly, I didn’t think that you’d be this good. …Well then, I’ll get a little serious myself.
Vegeta: Serious? Are you saying you haven’t been serious up until now?
Ize: That’s right!
Vegeta: Hah, don’t make me laugh! If you’re going to be a poor loser and bluff like that, you could at least make it more realistic!!
Gohan: …It…it can’t be…
Page 23
Ize: HAAAAAAH…!!!
Ize: Ah, ah…
Ize: HAAH!!
Page 24
Ize: [r] Haah!! [l] Haah!!
Page 25
Vegeta: [r] No…no way…[l] This can’t be…
Oob: He tran…transformed?
Ize: I’ve gotten a little stronger. Please don’t die too easily.
Page 27
Vegeta: Aguh…uh!!
Page 28
Gohan: Vegeta-san, behind you!!!
Vegeta: Guh!!
Page 29
Vegeta: Kuh!!
Page 30
Vegeta: SOO---OOH!!
Page 32
Vegeta: Guh…guh guh…
Trunks: Dad!!!
Gohan: [r] Goten! Trunks! Oob! [l] At this rate, we’ll all going to be done for! Let’s all help Vegeta-san!
Trunks: Ri…right!
Trunks: Pan-chan, take this…
Pan: Eh…OK!
Trunks: Goten! Let’s use Fusion!!
Goten: Right!
Page 33
Goten+Trunks: Fu…
GT: Sion!!
GT: HAH!!!
Page 34
Oob: I’ll show you the fruits of my training!!
Oob: HAAH…!!
Gotenks: Let’s go, Oob!!!
Oob: Right!!
Page 35
Ize: Oh…is it over already?...
Ize: Wha?!!
Page 36
Ize: Do you guys want to play with me too?
Page 37
Gohan: Pan!
Gohan: Fire that gun at me.
Pan: Eh?!
Pan: But papa…Won’t you turn into an Oozaru if you’re exposed to Bruits Waves?...
Gohan: Yeah, I understand. But…I can’t defeat him the way I am now.
Gohan: It’s an all-or-nothing gamble, but…
Gohan: I’m going to become a Super Saiyan 4 too!!
Pan: Papa, you’re going to become a Super Saiyan 4?
Gohan: Yeah.
Gohan: That’s why I want you to help me, Pan.
Pan: Help you?
Page 38
Gohan: [r] When Vegeta-san came to Earth, I transformed into an Oozaru. At the time, I heard Kuririn-san and father’s voices!! [l] Perhaps because of my Earthling blood, I have a high chance of regaining my senses!
Gohan: [r] Becoming a Super Saiyan 4 is a matter of transforming into an Oozaru and then coming to your senses. [l] So when I become an Oozaru, I want you to call out to me.
Gohan: Your voice should definitely get through to me.
Pan: I understand. Let’s try it!
Gohan: Thanks. I’m counting on you, Pan.
Page 39
Pan: Let’s go, Papa.
Gohan: Yeah!
Gohan: UOOOO---OH!!!
Page 41
Ize: !! What is that huge monkey!?
Oob: Gohan-san’s become an Oozaru!!
Gohan: GUOOOH!!
Page 43
Gohan: GAAAH
Pan: Papa!!!
Pan: It’s me! Pan!! Can’t you tell? It’s your daughter Pan!!
Gohan: Gah…!
Gohan: Uh..ugah..uuh…
Pan: Papa!! Come to your senses!! Papa!!!
Gohan: GAAAA---AH!!
Page 44
Gohan: HAAAA---AH!!!
Page 46
Pan: Amazing! Papa, you’ve managed to become a Super Saiyan 4!!
Gohan: Thank you. It’s all thanks to you, Pan.
Gohan: Alright! I can fight too like this!!
Vegeta: Cheh! He transformed right away! That really drives me crazy!
Oob: Incredible! Gohan-san’s a Super Saiyan 4 too!! Now we can manage something!
Gohan: Vegeta-san! Let’s all of us fight together!
Page 47
Vegeta: Cheh! I can’t believe we’re having such a hard fight against some of Freeza’s leftovers.
Vegeta: OK then Gohan, try not to drag me down!!
Gohan: Right!!
Vegeta: Let’s go!!!
Page 49
Vegeta: HAAAA---AH!!!
Vegeta: Big Bang Atta----ack!!!
Page 50
Oob: take this!!
Oob: Super Chocolate Beam!!
Gotenks: Kiai Cannon!!!
Page 51
Ize: Guh!!!
Gohan: [r] Ka—ah…[l] Me—eh…
Gohan: [r] Ha—ah…[l] Me—eh…
Gohan: HAA----AAH!!!
Page 52
Ize: …Uh…
Ize: UAAA—AH!!!
Page 53
Pan: Kyaaa---ah!!
Page 54
Gohan: [r] Haah…haah…[l] …It’s over…
Vegeta: Cheh…That took longer than I thought!!
Random goons: Ize-sama!!
Vegeta: Th…this can’t be…
Page 55
Gotenks: [t] I'm…impossible…He took all that…
Oob: He…he’s a monster…
Ize: [r] I’ve had enough fun. Thank you…I’ve managed to work off some stress. Let me offer you a small present in return. [l] I’ll put you all out of your misery…with my true form. It will only take an instant, so you won’t have to suffer.
Vegeta: Did you say…your ”true form”…?
Ize: Well then…I shall show you all!! My true form!!!
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You are too awesome.
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much!
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Thanks Herms, as always, you're awesome.
I don't know. I find it weird that Frieza could have a son that is stronger than a Super Saiyan 4.
I don't know. I find it weird that Frieza could have a son that is stronger than a Super Saiyan 4.
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Well, think of it this way:Necrosaber wrote:Thanks Herms, as always, you're awesome.
I don't know. I find it weird that Freeza could have a son that is stronger than a Super Saiyan 4.
Freeza never had to train to achieve the power he showed in the manga and he also didn't achieve it with zenkais or magical power ups to draw out his latent power. It was just his rough, natural and untrained power.
Where would Goku be if he never trained, never had zenkais or magical power ups (aka Karin's holy water) and only had his natural untrained power? Or even Vegeta, for that matter?
What would happen if Freeza had decided to take Goku's advice and accepted defeat to him in order to train hard so that he could beat Goku in the future? How strong would he get?
Now think of a being of Freeza's race with even more potential than Freeza had who trains very, very hard. Voila.
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And I find it weird that SSJ 3 Vegeta can't beat a guy only 10 times as powerful as Freeza.Necrosaber wrote:I don't know. I find it weird that Freeza could have a son that is stronger than a Super Saiyan 4.
Perhaps they shouldn't have included power statements like that.
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Maybe it's just Ize's first form that's 10 times more powerful? Or Piccolo was just wrong.
But, yeah, I think it would have been better if power levels and such were just left unstated in the first place.
But, yeah, I think it would have been better if power levels and such were just left unstated in the first place.
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I think the plot is entertaining.
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trying to translate the manga into english but it very hard to do it, wondering if anyone is up to it do translate the manga!!
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Scroll up.goku1234 wrote:trying to translate the manga into english but it very hard to do it, wondering if anyone is up to it do translate the manga!!
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What confuses me is Gohan's line about "50 years!!…Which means…That he’s 10 times stronger than Freeza?" 50 years of what? And how would he reason that this makes him 10 times stronger than Freeza? I assume that we're just getting the second half of a conversation from the end of chapter 1. Maybe Freeza only trained for 5 years his whole life, and Ize trained 50 years? But the intro for chapter 2 makes it sound like Ize was only born recently. Maybe he's been in an egg incubating for 50 years (and Freeza only incubated for 5)?
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I think that its just an expression, not really 10 times stronger... Like "way stronger", or something.
Edit: corrected my typos.
Edit: corrected my typos.
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