Dat Sword

Plague-Memories · Post by **Plague-Memories** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:58 pm

So..how did Trunks get the sword?

GizmoKSX · Post by **GizmoKSX** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:08 pm

Tapion gives his sword to young Trunks in Dragon Ball Z movie 13. However, the movies aren't considered canon, so that's not an entirely official explanation.

Plague-Memories · Post by **Plague-Memories** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 4:09 pm

GizmoKSX wrote:Tapion gives his sword to young Trunks in Dragon Ball Z movie 13. However, the movies aren't considered canon, so that's not an entirely official explanation.

It wouldn't make sense in the least if Taipon giving him the sword was the explanation behind Mirai Trunks having it, so that doesn't work.

That's why I'm dumbfounded here. :/

DanielGClapp · Post by **DanielGClapp** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:00 pm

Yeah, since future Trunks already had his sword in the alternate future where he never met Tapion, I don't understand how he could have obtained the same sword twice in alternate time lines. Maybe it's just his destiny to have that sword, no matter what time line it is!

Plague-Memories · Post by **Plague-Memories** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:03 pm

DanielGClapp wrote:Yeah, since future Trunks already had his sword in the alternate future where he never met Tapion, I don't understand how he could have obtained the same sword twice in alternate time lines. Maybe it's just his destiny to have that sword, no matter what time line it is!

I'm just going to go with that, and assume it's a sword with no recorded back history.
It is now canon!

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 6:03 pm

I believe there is a flashback scene to Trunks's timeline that shows many random people with swords. So one might conclude that everyone in the future has swords. I guess they just realized the jinzouningen were bullet-proof and tried to go medieval on them. It didn't work.

Godo · Post by **Godo** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:08 pm

caejones wrote:I believe there is a flashback scene to Trunks's timeline that shows many random people with swords. So one might conclude that everyone in the future has swords. I guess they just realized the jinzouningen were bullet-proof and tried to go medieval on them. It didn't work.

Yes you are right, we even see "Mystic Gohan" there for a moment with a sword. But taking into consideration that people tried to fight off Cell with guns and bombs, people resorting to swords and other means of self-defense in mere desperation makes somewhat sense. Trunks using a sword could be of him taking the customs of his time into consideration.
Or maybe he created some cool knights of the round table kind of thing, a resistance of sorts. That would be awesome and I would definitely read that story and about their future.

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:34 pm

Plague-Memories wrote:
GizmoKSX wrote:Tapion gives his sword to young Trunks in Dragon Ball Z movie 13. However, the movies aren't considered canon, so that's not an entirely official explanation.
It wouldn't make sense in the least if Taipon giving him the sword was the explanation behind Mirai Trunks having it, so that doesn't work.

That's why I'm dumbfounded here. :/

Well, a lot of things in DB doesn't make sense or add up. But, this is how Trunks got his sword according to the Dragon Ball Z Movie 13 Art Book.

Fox666 · Post by **Fox666** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 7:54 pm

In "Dragon Fist Explosion!! If Goku Doesn't Do It, Who Will?", it was established that the future Trunks' sword was something he got from the hero Tapion.
(Daizenshuu 6, p.150)

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:44 pm

There's nothing to say that little red man didn't come to earth in Future Trunks' timeline when he was a kid. They could have opened the music box some other way. And all this, of course, happened without the Androids knowing or caring.

I watched movie 13 again the other day. And upon further review, I have concluded that the plot of that movie is stupid. So it makes no difference to me what questions it answers or raises.

Nineteen · Post by **Nineteen** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:33 pm

^ Well, except the fact that even Hirudegarn's lower half would have utterly obliterated Trunks, the androids, and all life on the planet.

Sshadow5001 · Post by **Sshadow5001** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:36 pm

The movie show that trunks apparently recieves the sword form Tapion, however since it is a movie and not Canon I'd say its just a regular old sword. Swords seemed to be the style in his time

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 4:56 pm

Well, he bought it. That's Toriyama's idea...... Well, you can go and buy yourself one sword too or pay visit to a Blacksmith.
It just amuses me, how characters in franchises need to get their things and stuff in some mysterious way.
Well, Zoro from One Piece came to armory shop and got himself some katanas.
So Trunks in simmilar idea came to Blacksmith and said: ''Hey man, I need some hard thing which can cut trough the metal.'' So no official explanation, but manga storyline is unknown.
He got it from Tapion, that's TOEI's anime storyline.

Super Ghost Kamikaze · Post by **Super Ghost Kamikaze** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:02 pm

Nineteen wrote:^ Well, except the fact that even Hirudegarn's lower half would have utterly obliterated Trunks, the androids, and all life on the planet.

...the lower half from the "main" timeline, sure. We've already seen that Mirai Trunks's timeline has all sorts of random, nonsensical differences, including in how strong certain enemies are.

Mountain · Post by **Mountain** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 5:47 pm

Well, if one recalls, all sorts of wacky, inconsistent things happened between the various timelines. Perhaps, Tapion came at a different time... and the chain of events could have possibly played out differently, as well. Who knows?

Fox666 · Post by **Fox666** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 6:30 pm

MCDaveG wrote:Well, he bought it. That's Toriyama's idea...... Well, you can go and buy yourself one sword too or pay visit to a Blacksmith.
It just amuses me, how characters in franchises need to get their things and stuff in some mysterious way.
Well, Zoro from One Piece came to armory shop and got himself some katanas.
So Trunks in simmilar idea came to Blacksmith and said: ''Hey man, I need some hard thing which can cut trough the metal.'' So no official explanation, but manga storyline is unknown.
He got it from Tapion, that's TOEI's anime storyline.

The sword can cut through Freeza, so it's not simply a sword.

Probably Bulma made it.

funrush · Post by **funrush** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 7:23 pm

Nineteen wrote:^ Well, except the fact that even Hirudegarn's lower half would have utterly obliterated Trunks, the androids, and all life on the planet.

Well, they weren't going SS when they were fighting it, right? If so, the androids and Trunks could probably kill it pretty easily.

TheGreatness25 · Post by **TheGreatness25** » Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:00 pm

I'd like to think that since movie 13 isn't canon, that there's another explanation for his sword. And besides, movie 13 wasn't thought up by Akira Toriyama, nor was it even conceived during the time future Trunks appeared in the series. So therefore...I believe that after all the capsules and vehicles and weapons, surely Capsule Corporation could make a pretty damn good sword. Why do people wonder how he got the sword so much? It's a sword. Yajirobe had a sword. I mean is it really that amazing?

Kingdom Heartless · Post by **Kingdom Heartless** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 5:08 am

funrush wrote:
Nineteen wrote:^ Well, except the fact that even Hirudegarn's lower half would have utterly obliterated Trunks, the androids, and all life on the planet.
Well, they weren't going SS when they were fighting it, right? If so, the androids and Trunks could probably kill it pretty easily.

Wasn't it just Gohan who fought without transforming? And by that stage, he was no longer transforming anyway... although his Mystic form seemed to be like a transformation in that particular movie...

MCDaveG · Post by **MCDaveG** » Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:17 am

Well, as I remember, they were fluffing transforming! Only Gohan was Mystic....

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