Ocean Studios' "Dragon Ball Kai" Dub Turns 14; Still Unreleased

[Fizzer]

Does anyone else actually hope that Ocean uses a replacement soundtrack instead of repetitive Kikuchi?

[penguintruth]

Does anyone else actually hope that Ocean uses a replacement soundtrack instead of repetitive Kikuchi?

That thought is bad and you should feel bad.

(Come on... the Kikuchi placement problem is exaggerated. I find that a lot of episodes are even better with Kikuchi's music.)

[Kirbopher]

I didn't realize that there was talk of people from Blue Water doing work for the series floating around already. I didn't even see any talk about it on here until recently. When and how did that get out?

[elcrunkus]

Does anyone know how far along they are in this dub in terms of dubbing?

[Super Sayian Prime]

I didn't realize that there was talk of people from Blue Water doing work for the series floating around already. I didn't even see any talk about it on here until recently. When and how did that get out?

Well, MegaMan: Powered Up was dubbed by Bluewater so someone saying that Goku's voice actor was in that game would imply it was going to be a Calgary <-> Vancouver mash up.

Sure is a lot of secrecy surrounding the voice over work for a cartoon, especially a dub that's years in the making. They're not exactly working on the cancer cure here. The CIA can't keep secrets this well.

Non-disclosure agreements aren't exactly unheard of for any kind of media...

[Kirbopher]

I didn't realize that there was talk of people from Blue Water doing work for the series floating around already. I didn't even see any talk about it on here until recently. When and how did that get out?

Well, MegaMan: Powered Up was dubbed by Bluewater so someone saying that Goku's voice actor was in that game would imply it was going to be a Calgary <-> Vancouver mash up.

That doesn't answer the question of how people found that out in the first place.

[TheBlackPaladin]

It's really weird...I'm having trouble finding the post now, but somebody said that Brendan Walker said he was involved in the Ocean dub of Kai, and when someone asked him who the new Goku was, he said--not an exact quote--but something to the effect of, "here," or, "watch this page," or something like that. At which point he then linked to the Megaman cast page from "Behind the Voice Actors."

I totally understand if you're not comfortable revealing too much, Kirbopher.............but on the off-chance that you are comfortable revealing this.......without naming anyone specific, is the new Goku really one of these people?

[Solidus]

@TheBlackPaladin and Kirbopher, http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... start=1340 Scroll down this page and you should find a quote from Brendan Hunters Facebook Page. This was the first we heard of it. Then he posted that video and said something along the lines of a friend posted him the link of the video and that their Goku was in it. However he has edited his Facebook page probably due to NDA.

I still wonder who this mystery company is who is producing this Ocean dub of Kai. I've been thinking and it seems CSC media has gotten some other shows directly from Toei. Toei produced their own English dub of a show called Pretty Cure in association with Ocean Productions. The show ended up being done by Blue Water Studios and Karl Willems directed the cast. Interestingly the show aired on YTV and a CSC media channel: Pop Girl. Maybe Toei has decided to keep the license for DBZ Kai in the UK for themselves after the travesty that AB Group treated the licenses they got. That would explain them releasing the Orange Bricks and would mean that they were the ones producing Ocean Kai. This would be kinda strange, but why would Manga UK be looking for DBZ Kai from Toei and not from the license holders in the region that would also be making Ocean Kai. I was hoping KAZE were making Ocean Kai but this sudden announcement of a TV broadcast has kind of made that idea void. What do you guys think? Kirbopher, Do you happen to know who this mystery company producing Ocean Kai is? I know you can't say who if you do know so a Yes/No answer will suffice.

[penguintruth]

The thought of them using Blue Water "talent" worries me. Blue Water's work is abominable.

[TheBlackPaladin]

The thought of them using Blue Water "talent" worries me. Blue Water's work is abominable.

No need to put "talent" in quotation marks, they do have some very good actors. Sure, there are some weak links here and there, but that's a universal truth, not particular to Blue Water. I have yet to hear any dubbing studio that doesn't have a range of talent that range from great to not-so-great.

[penguintruth]

The thought of them using Blue Water "talent" worries me. Blue Water's work is abominable.

No need to put "talent" in quotation marks, they do have some very good actors. Sure, there are some weak links here and there, but that's a universal truth, not particular to Blue Water. I have yet to hear any dubbing studio that doesn't have a range of talent that range from great to not-so-great.

Hm, really? Name these good Blue Water VAs and good Blue Water dubs.

[KingofWisdom]

Personally, I've never heard a Blue Water dub I'd say is above average. Even relatively recent ones, like Hunter x Hunter.

[TheBlackPaladin]

The thought of them using Blue Water "talent" worries me. Blue Water's work is abominable.

No need to put "talent" in quotation marks, they do have some very good actors. Sure, there are some weak links here and there, but that's a universal truth, not particular to Blue Water. I have yet to hear any dubbing studio that doesn't have a range of talent that range from great to not-so-great.

Hm, really? Name these good Blue Water VAs and good Blue Water dubs.

Well Penguintruth, and I mean this with all due respect...does it matter? You've clearly made up your mind and are going to disagree with whatever good things I have to say about Blue Water or their talent pool.

[penguintruth]

Of course I'm going to disagree and pick apart your choices.

Indulge me, damn it. I'm curious.

I just haven't run into any good Blue Water dubs. Most of the ones I've encountered I've found cringeworthy. Zeta Gundam's spit all over my favorite mecha show.

And a lot of their VAs (Matthew Erickson comes to mind) are just terrible.

[TheBlackPaladin]

Well, it could be that I'm being over-cautious, but since you more or less admitted that you're going to disagree with me before even having heard my thoughts, I think I'll just respectfully decline to comment. Sorry, I'm just trying to imagine ahead of time how the discussion might go...and I don't see any particularly conductive conversations or discussions arising if one person's just going to reply, "no, you're wrong," regardless of what the other person says.

Not saying your opinion is invalid, of course. I'm merely saying that I don't believe "indulging" you would lead to anything nice or productive, that's all. No disrespect intended.

[matt0044]

I liked Tom Edwards's Quattro/Char in Zeta.

[linkdude20002001]

I know that I too have yet to hear any good from Blue Water. I tried watching Deltora's Quest, and my god was it painful. o_o

[Fizzer]

Blue water being responsible for the android saga onwards + GT in the UK right? That shit was dreadful, but it was also a long time ago. The Ocean dub of the first 52 episodes of Z, though, I really liked. Yeah, it was edited to death, the script was unfaithful, the music changed the atmosphere of the show completely, but the quality of the acting and production in general was really quite good in my opinion.

[Puto]

Blue Water had nothing to do with the Android Saga or anything Z, but they did do DB and GT.

[Fizzer]

Blue Water had nothing to do with the Android Saga or anything Z, but they did do DB and GT.

Who did the second half (roughly) of Z then? I thought it was Blue Water.