Pre-Majin Vegeta vs Kid Gohan

[miguelnuva1]

I use to have Vegeta about 1% higher than Kid Gohan in till I got to DBZF.UK and they said Vegeta was most likely lower than SPC and at best was rivaling equal to Kid Gohan.

How does everyone else feel about this?

[Cardle grave]

Who cares about What DBZ.uk says, Vegeta should be = or a bit higher

[TheMightyOzaru]

I have Vegeta higher than Kid Gohan but if Kid Gohan were to get angry, Vegeta is screwed.

[miguelnuva1]

I have Vegeta higher than Kid Gohan but if Kid Gohan were to get angry, Vegeta is screwed.

My rage boost for Kid Gohan is basically a rechargeable battery. Gohan's rage unleashed made him SSJ2 and while it won't make him stronger it will restore his power like when he beam duel cell.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I don't think that's the case at all. Anger has made him stronger in the past so I don't see why SSJ2 can't coupled with his ability to gain power through anger. I think Gohan's anger was at an all time high when he killed Cell. The Daizenshuu 2 also says that Gohan wasn't as strong as he was when he was a child when he went SSJ2 at the Budokai because he couldn't gain power through anger. Vegeta also makes a remark about Gohan's power being a lot stronger when he defeated Cell but there is no telling what would happen if he snapped and went into a frenzy.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I think Vegeta's weaker than Cell Games Gohan.

[Cardle grave]

He does gain power when angry, Rage boost and done it with SPC

[RandomGuy96]

I think Vegeta's weaker than Cell Games Gohan.

Ditto. Kid Gohan is still talked about like he's a big deal. What convinced Vegeta that he couldn't hope to compete with Goku is Goku's little SS2 burst which Vegeta described as "stronger than Gohan was back then". Kid Gohan is still used as a "measuring stick" by Vegeta as well. In addition to that, the gap between Goku and Vegeta was implied to be pretty big, while Piccolo could barley notice the difference between Majin Vegeta and kid Gohan.

For me, Vegeta's slightly weaker than kid Gohan and about equal with Super Perfect Cell.

[TheMightyOzaru]

SSJ2 Kid Gohan is used as a measuring stick not base or FPSSJ Kid Gohan.

[RandomGuy96]

...yeah? And?

[TheMightyOzaru]

...yeah? And?

I'm just saying that because Vegeta should be equal to or stronger than Kid Gohan. Angry Kid Gohan is a different story.

[RandomGuy96]

...yeah? And?

I'm just saying that because Vegeta should be equal to or stronger than Kid Gohan. Angry Kid Gohan is a different story.

The one that beat Cell, right? I think that they're always referring to angry kid Gohan when using him as a measuring stick- like when they said Majin Vegeta surpassed him. Then again I also don't think that angry kid Gohan is any different than regular kid Gohan, except maybe during the final Kamehameha struggle.

[MDSTSSJ]

When Vegeta, Goku, Gohan and Kaio Shin are in Babidi's ship just before Gohan fighting Dabura, Vegeta tells Goku that Gohan abandon his training and they ( Vegeta and Kakarotto ) are much stronger than Gohan but never know what Gohan would be able to do with a rage boost.

Pre Majin Vegeta is stronger than Cell Games SSJ2 kid Gohan. Majin Vegeta is a lot stronger than Cell Games SSJ2 kid Gohan.

Boo´s Arc SSJ2 Gohan is the weakest in that form.

[miguelnuva1]

My numbers go like this

SPC: 97

SSJ2 Kid Gohan: 100

Gohan's rage has maxed out at this point and getting angry will only take him back to his full SSJ2 power.

SSJ2 Teen Gohan: 80

SSJ2 Vegeta: 101

SSJ2 Goku: 150

SSJ2 Teen Gohan(rage boost): 155

Gohan having more dormant power and being weaker from lack of training will allow his Rage boost to take him farther as a SSJ2 as the power to go SSJ2 and the rage boost are separate here. Goku and Vegeta also think an angry Gohan here could beat them.

[MDSTSSJ]

My numbers go like this

SPC: 97

SSJ2 Kid Gohan: 100

Gohan's rage has maxed out at this point and getting angry will only take him back to his full SSJ2 power.

SSJ2 Teen Gohan: 80

SSJ2 Vegeta: 101

SSJ2 Goku: 150

SSJ2 Teen Gohan(rage boost): 155

Gohan having more dormant power and being weaker from lack of training will allow his Rage boost to take him farther as a SSJ2 as the power to go SSJ2 and the rage boost are separate here. Goku and Vegeta also think an angry Gohan here could beat them.

Your numbers are ok but, SSJ2 Teen Gohan enraged is not stronger than SSJ2 Kakarotto. I think the opposite, the more stronger you are, you will have access to more dormant power.

Vegeta says in the manga something like ¨never know what Gohan would be able to do with a rage boost ¨ but never says that enraged Gohan could beat them.

[miguelnuva1]

My numbers go like this

SPC: 97

SSJ2 Kid Gohan: 100

Gohan's rage has maxed out at this point and getting angry will only take him back to his full SSJ2 power.

SSJ2 Teen Gohan: 80

SSJ2 Vegeta: 101

SSJ2 Goku: 150

SSJ2 Teen Gohan(rage boost): 155

Gohan having more dormant power and being weaker from lack of training will allow his Rage boost to take him farther as a SSJ2 as the power to go SSJ2 and the rage boost are separate here. Goku and Vegeta also think an angry Gohan here could beat them.

Your numbers are ok but, SSJ2 Teen Gohan enraged is not stronger than SSJ2 Kakarotto. I think the opposite, the more stronger you are, you will have access to more dormant power.

Vegeta says in the manga something like ¨never know what Gohan would be able to do with a rage boost ¨ but never says that enraged Gohan could beat them.

Goku says angry ssj2 gohan could beat anyone.

[MDSTSSJ]

My numbers go like this

SPC: 97

SSJ2 Kid Gohan: 100

Gohan's rage has maxed out at this point and getting angry will only take him back to his full SSJ2 power.

SSJ2 Teen Gohan: 80

SSJ2 Vegeta: 101

SSJ2 Goku: 150

SSJ2 Teen Gohan(rage boost): 155

Gohan having more dormant power and being weaker from lack of training will allow his Rage boost to take him farther as a SSJ2 as the power to go SSJ2 and the rage boost are separate here. Goku and Vegeta also think an angry Gohan here could beat them.

Your numbers are ok but, SSJ2 Teen Gohan enraged is not stronger than SSJ2 Kakarotto. I think the opposite, the more stronger you are, you will have access to more dormant power.

Vegeta says in the manga something like ¨never know what Gohan would be able to do with a rage boost ¨ but never says that enraged Gohan could beat them.

Goku says angry ssj2 gohan could beat anyone.

Boo´s Arc Gohan lacks in rage boost for some reason. If I remember correctly, before fighting Dabura, Goku tells Gohan that if he gets angry, no one can beat him but we see him do nothing to Dabura!

[Kamiccolo9]

Boo´s Arc Gohan lacks in rage boost for some reason. If I remember correctly, before fighting Dabura, Goku tells Gohan that if he gets angry, no one can beat him but we see him do nothing to Dabura!

Well, when he does his Kamehameha against Buu's ball, he scares everyone, including Dabura. So it's possible he tapped into his rage then.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

Pre Majin Vegeta is stronger than Cell Games SSJ2 kid Gohan. Majin Vegeta is a lot stronger than Cell Games SSJ2 kid Gohan.

If Vegeta is weaker than Super Saiyan 2 Goku's burst, and later make note of how Super Saiyan 2 Goku at full-power is stronger than Kid Gohan, his Pre Majin level would be less than Kid Gohan's. Also, based on Piccolo's quote, Majin Vegeta isn't a lot stronger than Kid Gohan.

Boo´s Arc SSJ2 Gohan is the weakest in that form.

Agreed.