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TheGmGoken
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by TheGmGoken » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:47 pm
Pictures like the ones you posted and stated that are sexy, go out of their way to show us that the person that is tied up is uncomfortable, nervous and perhaps unwilling and afraid. There's no trace of any noticeable pleasure in them. There's nothing to indicate that the person tied up actually enjoys it. And that's what is creepy and that's what is bordering violence fantasies, like I stated.
Enjoying complete dominance over a person is only not creepy when the other person enjoys it and is willing to put himself or herself in that position. Any other situation and its definitely creepy. So pictures depicting those fetishes should also depict that willingness or pleasure of the "victim". Otherwise, what makes them different from pictures depicting sexual violence. violent fantasies and rape fantasies?
You do know you just describe Asian(Most notable Japanese) porn right
. I know this isn't a porn thread(THANK GOD. Can only imagine what picture yall would post) but in Asia this would be considered sexy. It could be viewed as Pre Porn so it's not porn..YET. So yes it's sexy in a different way then you might be used to.
Here someone talking about how funny/"Good"/ messed up Japan's porn is. NO nasty picture nor nasty video. Just him talking about how in Japan's porn the picture you said were creepy is NOTHING compared to what he seen. Most men raping women and how the acting seems so real. So they're screaming for help and shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIvraRfjUyM
So these picture to be honest are fitting since DBZ is Asian and from Japan. However the tied up pictures could have been roleplay sex. Some people get really deep into it. When me and my girlfriend roleplay make out(We only have sex once every 2 months), we do get really into it. Sometimes I'll be a prison bitch or she'll be in an alley.
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by Insertclevername » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:59 pm
rereboy wrote:I didn't say that he should stop posting or asked him to stop. They are only animated pictures after all. I merely stated what I think of those kinds of pictures.
I wasn't directing that last comment towards anyone in particular.
Cipher wrote:Also, you can seriously like whatever and still get laid. That's a revelation that'll hit you at some point.
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by rereboy » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:00 pm
TheGmGoken wrote:Pictures like the ones you posted and stated that are sexy, go out of their way to show us that the person that is tied up is uncomfortable, nervous and perhaps unwilling and afraid. There's no trace of any noticeable pleasure in them. There's nothing to indicate that the person tied up actually enjoys it. And that's what is creepy and that's what is bordering violence fantasies, like I stated.
You do know you just describe Asian(Most notable Japanese) porn right
. I know this isn't a porn thread(THANK GOD. Can only imagine what picture yall would post) but in Asia this would be considered sexy. It could be viewed as Pre Porn so it's not porn..YET. So yes it's sexy in a different way then you might be used to.
Here someone talking about how funny/"Good"/ messed up Japan's porn is. NO nasty picture nor nasty video. Just him talking about how in Japan's porn the picture you said were creepy is NOTHING compared to what he seen. Most men raping women and how the acting seems so real. So they're screaming for help and shit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIvraRfjUyM
And I find all that creepy. Maybe its only me, but I don't find someone being hurt (or depictions or someone being hurt) sexy, no matter how physically attractive the person being hurt is.
However, I think its also fair to point out that a great deal of japanese and asian porn or hentai revolves around the premise that the female is not very willing to engage in sexual activities at first but once they start she doesn't really fight back and actually feels a lot of pleasure. So a lot of their material is about fantasies of good girls who resist but deep down they want to, and not about the violence.
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by TheGmGoken » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:04 pm
think its also fair to point out that a great deal of Japanese and Asian porn or hentai revolves around the premise that the female is not very willing to engage in sexual activities are first but once they start she doesn't really fight back and actually feels a lot of pleasure.
You also forgetting about the other great deal of JPN porn that has to deal with rape, beating them up, and random shit. Also how do you know the tied up girls are the same way? Maybe Gohan want to engage his Mystic Powers on Videl more forceful than usually which breaks out the better animal sex. I'm sure Vegeta and Bulma roleplayed like that too. So it's also fair to point of that. Could be roleplay sex. Many people roleplay with tape like this. They go into deep detail even in the emotions.
So pictures depicting those fetishes should also depict that willingness or pleasure of the "victim". Otherwise, what makes them different from pictures depicting sexual violence. violent fantasies and rape fantasies?
I know it's your opinion but the fact she doesn't look willing means she's into it. The sex and or kissing is going to be great cause they're Roleplaying. So they are VERY different than rape fantasies and violent. It's no different than Roleplaying and someone commits a murder. Just for fun and pleasure.
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by rereboy » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:13 pm
TheGmGoken wrote:
You also forgetting about the other great deal of JPN porn that has to deal with rape, beating them up, and random shit. Also how do you know the tied up girls are the same way? Maybe Gohan want to engage his Mystic Powers on Videl more forceful than usually which breaks out the better animal sex. I'm sure Vegeta and Bulma roleplayed like that too. So it's also fair to point of that. Could be roleplay sex. Many people roleplay with tape like this. They go into deep detail even in the emotions.
What I pointed out was that I find the posted bondage images creepy because they have no noticeable signs of pleasure or willingness of the "victims". And afterwards I pointed out that, despite how messed up asian porn and hentai is, a great deal of it, perhaps even most of it, is not about the violence itself, and its often about good girls that secretly want to give in to their lust.
No need to complicate the issue any more than that.
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by kei17 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:22 pm
Could you please stop tenaciously talking about your sexual preferences that no one is interested in? Post any fan art (except for porn, of course) that you find sexy and can be inappropriate for the official fan works thread. It doesn't matter whether they're based on minor fetishes/sexualities.
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by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:46 pm
Lol quite the dump you posted Goken, that Bulma gif is pretty funny to me for some reason. Thats all I got on BDSM related art without crossing into no-no territory so ill just post this. Not really "sexy" per say, but I think some of is cute. Be warned this comic strip is rather big. Created by SSJGOKU10 on deviantart.
Heres a comic strip featuring every hairstyle Bulma has from Dragonball to Dragonball Z. My personal favorites are number 15 in second place and number 19 as my all time favorite hairstyle of Bulmas.
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by DNA » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:57 pm
What was sexy about that silly banter?
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by Scarz » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:35 pm
Insertclevername wrote:Speaking of BDSM...Hey Scarz, will we see a return of Chi Chi's peril sometime soon?
Yeah, about that...
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by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:40 pm
Weeeeell..care to send this thing to me via PM? Please?
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by Scarz » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:47 pm
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Weeeeell..care to send this thing to me via PM? Please?
It's a work in progress. I haven't finished the rest of the comic yet. XD
It might be a while but as soon as I'm finished, I'll post it all up on tumblr.
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by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:49 pm
DNA wrote:What was sexy about that silly banter?
I was referring to the panel with all her hairstyles and mentioned she looked sexy with some of them. I would have cropped the image to show just the hairs but seeing as this isnt my comic strip, I thought that would kinda be a big FU to the original artist.
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by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:50 pm
Scarz wrote:KentalSSJ6 wrote:Weeeeell..care to send this thing to me via PM? Please?
It's a work in progress. I haven't finished the rest of the comic yet. XD
It might be a while but as soon as I'm finished, I'll post it all up on tumblr.
Hey I'm totally up for helping you out if you need it. Ideas, suggestions, just let me know.
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by DNA » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:12 pm
KentalSSJ6 wrote:DNA wrote:What was sexy about that silly banter?
I was referring to the panel with all her hairstyles and mentioned she looked sexy with some of them. I would have cropped the image to show just the hairs but seeing as this isnt my comic strip, I thought that would kinda be a big FU to the original artist.
How would it? He just screen-caped and put some subs in it. I can do that.
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by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:16 pm
I'm sure you could, I just dont feel right altering another's work, whether it be screencaps or otherwise.
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by DNA » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:24 pm
KentalSSJ6 wrote:I'm sure you could, I just dont feel right altering another's work, whether it be screencaps or otherwise.
I don't feel right having to scroll through all that just to see a bunch of pics of Bulma's hair.
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by KentalSSJ6 » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:33 pm
There, put it in a spoiler tab. Happy?
Anyway heres 18 cosplaying as a Cell Jr. Artist unknown, let me know and ill post their name.
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by Scarz » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:49 pm
KentalSSJ6 wrote:Hey I'm totally up for helping you out if you need it. Ideas, suggestions, just let me know.
Thanks but I had the whole story mapped out in my head since the beginning. I've only changed one thing since then and that will be a pretty obvious change once the comic is out. But if I need any help with ideas or suggestions I know the faithful perverted Kanzenshuu fans are here to help.
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by Saiyatonian » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:59 pm
Scarz wrote:Insertclevername wrote:Speaking of BDSM...Hey Scarz, will we see a return of Chi Chi's peril sometime soon?
Yeah, about that...
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Is it possible to watch DBZ with epilepsy?