Do you feel the King Cold segment was rushed?

[nicolas_3d]

King Cold is a character we know very little about. He's supposed to secretly rule the universe, that's a pretty big and important role by all standards. We barely see him for a few episodes and then he dies... I think there should have been more to that segment, more background story on him and his actions... Maybe it was some sort of a rushed last minute decision by Akira toriyama to create this character, in order to fill a hole in the story. It does seem like it seriously because there is no meat to his story.

[VegettoEX]

I liked it. A lot. The whole point is to be "you're NOTHING now". Showcasing him any more than Toriyama did gives him undue importance when the exact opposite is the whole point there.

I don't like it when story bits are brushed aside with no regard to their setup and the overall plot and it's clear that the author is just changing his mind about things, but when their PURPOSE in the plot is to be swept aside - as it was with King Cold - I think it works beautifully.

[Gutsxgoku]

I also think that any more back story would be irrelevant/redundant because it would most likely just be the exact same stuff we have seen Freeza doing but instead it's King Cold... That and everything Mike said^

[RocktheDragon]

Not at all. King Cold was around just enough as he needed to be. We had already exhausted everything we could with a galactic overlord in Freeza so Cold would have been overkill.

I wouldn't mind a special or movie tracing Cold's family background though. That would make for an interesting topic to cover sometime.

[RandomGuy96]

I think the whole Cell arc was rushed, or at least felt incredibly rushed.

[rereboy]

I would have him transform and actually be a little bit stronger than Freeza, just to lose without difficulty and be killed in a spectacular way.

That would hype the character as the true and intelligent head of the empire, working in the shadows through his son (making the whole segment feel more fresh than just "Freeza returns", as well as a oh-oh moment when he transforms), but it would still make the point that they are seriously outclassed (and it would do it even more effectively).

[TobyS]

Also if you think about it, Freeza once said something like "you are the first one to put a scratch on me beside my parent/s" (japanese don't have plurals apparently?)

So if they didn't fans would worry about that... What Toriyama did was say "Freeza is dead, and his whole family are dead"

[sintzu]

The whole point was to show that frieza and his kind were nothing at that point.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I'm kind of in the middle on this. I would have liked to get a little more about the character, which is why I've somewhat enjoyed Multiverse's take on him...but at the same time, the point of him and Freeza's return at all was to just be brushed aside that easily. So I'm not really sure it would have worked without going from one extreme to the other.

[penguintruth]

Yeah, the whole point of Cyborg Freeza and King Cold were that, compared to the next threat, they were nothing at all. The guy who easily kills Freeza talks about how he was no match for the next villains.

Though King Cold was probably extra-redundant. It could have just been Freeza's soldiers alone that revived him and just him and his soldiers going to Earth. But whatevs.

[Herms]

I feel like Cold only exists to demonstrate that Trunks isn't just some guy who happens to own a magic Freeza-killing super sword.

Also, to give Freeza someone to talk to who's a bit more interesting than some new henchman.

[RandomGuy96]

I feel like Cold only exists to demonstrate that Trunks isn't just some guy who happens to own a magic Freeza-killing super sword.

Also, to give Freeza someone to talk to who's a bit more interesting than some new henchman.

I always thought it was because Freeza mentioned having a father before, and it would seem weird to throw that out and never elaborate on it. And maybe also to show that Freeza's kind weren't a single specimen species (in the manga, the anime already had that covered).

[Hellspawn28]

I feel like he could have been a good villain. I rather him come to Earth alone instead having him rebuild Freeza into a cyborg. It can show how powerful his family is and show that Freeza is a ant compare to his father. In the original timeline, Goku and the others could have killed him in a combine attack.

[Mr.Judge]

Yeah . seems so.
Considering Frieza inclusion in DBO and new movie BOG, also Akira Toriyama seems to have a soft spot for that particular character.

BUT Instead of a new movie riddled with more inconsistencies(going by BOG), I'd rather Akira Toriyama revisit the Goku and Frieza Fight in a movie format , Or introduces a more powerful Frieza from another Timeline as a filler movie.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I feel like Cold only exists to demonstrate that Trunks isn't just some guy who happens to own a magic Freeza-killing super sword.

Imagine the eternal strength debates about SS Trunks vs Mecha Freeza if Cold never existed...

[RandomGuy96]

Yeah . seems so.
Considering Freeza inclusion in DBO and new movie BOG, also Akira Toriyama seems to have a soft spot for that particular character.

Eh? Seems more like the opposite. He constantly has everyone shit on Freeza and make him look pathetic (the whole idea of the 2008 JSAT special, Trunks slicing and dicing him effortlessly, the whole idea of Beers, his defeat being rubbed in again in BOG), and the anime staff is all too happy to join in (becoming a whiny bitch in Hell, getting one-shotted by Pikkon, getting punched so hard by Gohan that he EXPLODES, getting humiliated time after time in GT, etc.). The only villain who gets his dignity crushed after his defeat more than Freeza is Vegeta.

[mAcChaos]

Yeah, Buu is the only one who is still held up with respect.

[MasterVampire]

I don't really think it was rushed.

Future Trunks just doesn't let fights drag out or toy with his enemies.
He just goes in for the quick kill which is why this saga ended so quick.

[RandomGuy96]

Yeah, Buu is the only one who is still held up with respect.

Sorta, counting the Toei stuff. Mr. Buu and Uub are basically Buu, and they usually get trashed to wank Goku in GT. But hey, at least Super Buu's reincarnation, Super Uub, gets SOME dignity (holding his own against Baby, playing a major part in beating him, one-shotting Rildo) and Buu as a whole isn't treated like a joke as Cell and Freeza are.

[Polyphase Avatron]

I honestly agree and would have liked to see more about him.