GT Villains - Baby

[Nikkolas]

Unfortunate name notwithstanding, I think Baby had by far the most character to him of any GT villain. There might be others you enjoy more for one reason and another but GT got the most build-up of any of them.

It kinda just depends if you "bought" it or not.

1.. What do you think of Baby's character?

2. Which is your favorite form of Baby? Thinking mainly of Baby Vegeta here.

3. Is he your favorite GT Villain?

I have to admit, having just finished re-watching the Baby Saga, I feel....unsatisfied with the ending. It wasn't nearly as lame and anticlimactic as Rildo's end but Baby's death still felt extremely lame to me.

[DBZAOTA482]

1. He's annoying but he's fine as a villain.

2. Bebi Vegeta. Just Bebi Vegeta.

3. No. Nuova Shenron is.

[SSJ God Gogeta]

1. I totally agree, he's annoying... But his motives for destroying the saiyans was good.

2. Bebi Vegeta, and I guess Super Bebi Vegeta 2.
(Also I kinda like Bebi Janemba)

3. I don't really have a favorite GT Villain... I would say Omega Shenron is I guess, not Bebi.

[MajinMan]

1. I think that his background and plan was ok. Don't care much for Baby himself though.

2. I would say the first Baby Vegeta, before he turned all weird and starting transforming randomly.

3. I like Omega Shenron more, but baby is second place.

[Hellspawn28]

1. He is the best written villain in GT but his motives for destroying the Saiyans is just a rehash on what we saw in Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans. It was cool that he took over the Earth and we haven't had a villain that took over the Earth since Piccolo Daimao. I do wish he never took over Vegeta's body since we already had a Goku vs. Majin Vegeta. Vegeta being the main focus on being a bad guy has been done enough.

2. His adult form is really cool looking. Too bad it got killed off too quickly.

3. I guess he is my favorite. I don't care for any villain GT, but I do have a soft spot for the M2 villains. Myuu could have been a great villain if he was fresh out more and same goes with General Rildo. If Bebi was more original then I would love him. He gets a 6/10 in my book.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Honestly, I kind of feel like Baby's name is an interesting choice. It's not a pun or anything like most names, and it sets itself apart from a lot of other names in the series...but...I'unno. Maybe it's just that scene of Myuu pitifully screaming about his 'baby', but something about it just works for me. Although granted, it's a little weird that he'd keep using the name when he hated Myuu, amongst...other plot details I'll touch on next.

1. I'm honestly really mixed on Baby, both his character and his 'saga'. While a lot of people list him/it as their favorite - and I can certainly see why, as there's no denying that this arc was executed better than the others if nothing else - but for me...eh. Part of my issue is how inconsistent his background is. First he's the final experiment of Dr. Myuu, but then suddenly he's the revived-through-technology king of the Tuffles? That's...just...that's like an M. Night Shymalan level 'what a twist!' right there. While I'm all for a Tuffle plotline that wasn't in 'Plan', this one just felt last minute, and almost carbon copied from Plan at that. His character itself though is fine, though it's not really anything we haven't seen before already, with his arrogance being a bit reminiscent of Freeza. He might have been more interesting if they'd played out his 'victim of the Saiyans' status a little more, and made him losing a little more morally ambiguous...but that may have been a little too heavy for Dragon Ball I guess.

2. I've always been kind of partial of his 'fully evolved' look from just before he possesses Goten, and wish we had gotten to see that form fight a bit more. As far as Baby Vegeta goes, I guess I'm torn between his first form where it's just Vegeta with weird eyes and gray hair, and his final one (not the Great Ape, just his final regular form). The in-between transformations state always looked a little too derpy to me.

3. Not by a long shot. Sure, he's handled the best, but just by sheer idea alone, the evil Dragons take him with ease. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, that arc is the one that I think feels the most like the next step in Dragon Ball's story after where Z ended.

[FortuneSSJ]

1 - Best villain in GT. Without counting with movies, he's my third favorite.
His hatred towards the saiyans is justified. He ends up controling almost everyone and used the Dragon balls that Goku and cia had so much troube to get, for his own benefit. I find that great. Goku had to reach the next level to beat him too.

2 - Overall, its when he comes up to earth and fights Goten. Talking about Baby vegeta, its his Final Form.

3 - Like I said before, yes.

[NeoKING]

After recently watching the Bebi saga in Japanese, I must say, fans definitely underestimate how wellBebi was done as a villain. In fact, I'd go so far as to say his complexity as a villain is up there with Freeza (yeah, I said it), and I'll tell you why.

Maybe it's because GT gets such a bad rep that people overlook its characters, artistic direction, and overall different presentation than Z (or maybe it's the other way around), however Bebi's character deserves mention. From his background, Bebi takes his stance as one of the more scientific villains ala Cell. The Neo-Machine Mutant spends his earliest episodes acting like a actual baby, upset because things aren't going his way (ie. he screams at the hero trio as they leave M2) and trying to get the attention of Goku and co. as if he were a spoiled brat. But, the way he speaks and carries himself is like a evil genius. If I were to compare it, he reminds me of Stewie Griffin. When he gets to Earth he's definitely grown up and is gaining mastery of his newfound powers. Everything is going his way and Goku is getting canned. Come SSJ4 and now Bebi has lost his mind. Ironically, the way Bebi became a Golden Ohzaru reminded me of how a child would act if they saw someone with a better toy than his own (kinda like an "I want his transformation its stronger than all of mine!"-thing). Then he just loses his temper throughout the battle and flips off the handle. Long gone is the big-word speaking evil mastermind we were used to.

Tl:dr Japamese Bebi is cool. Japanese GT is great.

[fadeddreams5]

1. His personality and English voice are grating.

2. Baby Vegeta

3. Yes. His role as a parasite, the fact that he isn't initially strong at all, his invasion of Earth, and his backstory make him the most interesting and relevant villain in GT. On the other hand, Super 17 is something you'd expect from the most abysmal of fanfictions, and the shadow dragons, while an interesting concept, do not have much going for them in terms of backstory, and are defeated too easily/quickly. Syn/Omega literally pops up out of nowhere...

[NeoKING]

1. His personality and English voice are grating.

2. Baby Vegeta

3. Yes. His role as a parasite, the fact that he isn't initially strong at all, his invasion of Earth, and his backstory make him the most interesting and relevant villain in GT. On the other hand, Super 17 is something you'd expect from the most abysmal of fanfictions, and the shadow dragons, while an interesting concept, do not have much going for them in terms of backstory, and are defeated too easily/quickly. Syn/Omega literally pops up out of nowhere...

The Evil Dragons have back stories that span two series.

[fadeddreams5]

1. His personality and English voice are grating.

2. Baby Vegeta

3. Yes. His role as a parasite, the fact that he isn't initially strong at all, his invasion of Earth, and his backstory make him the most interesting and relevant villain in GT. On the other hand, Super 17 is something you'd expect from the most abysmal of fanfictions, and the shadow dragons, while an interesting concept, do not have much going for them in terms of backstory, and are defeated too easily/quickly. Syn/Omega literally pops up out of nowhere...

The Evil Dragons have back stories that span two series.

True....true....