Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
I apologize if this is forbidden. I wont mind if the thread is closed, it could get out of hand.
But god I love the terribly written DBZ(Its ALWAYS DBZ, I've yet to see someone do terrible fanfiction of the first half of the manga) crap some people come up with!
Like the infamous Hitler Goes Super Saiyan in the DBZ/Anne Frank crossover. (No, really)
But this one takes the cake.
Again,I apologize if I'm breaking any rules, I just wanted to contribute in a more lighthearted manner and especially one that didnt involve me yelling at people.
NOTE:Try not to go into adult territory, sure that horrible story where Bulma rapes Goku (!!!) and makes him rape Vegeta(WTF) is ridiculous, but it would get the thread closed.
And yes, said '"Bulma rapes Goku" exists. You may weep now.
Spoiler:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Gog wrote:The cell saga/android saga is the worst thing Akira Toriyama ever made. And nothing has ever actually managed to come close to it, after it. Even the terrible asspulls in the FT saga, weren't as bad as that. But of course this is all my opinion.
You've just made a new best friend.
Marz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:27 pm
"Well, the chapter was good, the story was good and so were the fights. But a new transformation, in Dragon Ball? And one that's ugly? This is where we draw the line!!! Jump the Shark moment!!"
This forum is so over-dramatic that it's not even funny.
90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm19 years ago I was rushing home from school to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network, and today I've rushed home from work to watch DBS on Pop. I guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same.
I remember there was a fan fiction on the old MFG forums where they had Broli come back from Hell and it was nothing but straight up violence. The person even had Coola saying "Yeah man!". This was back in 2005.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I remember there was a fan fiction on the old MFG forums where they had Broli come back from Hell and it was nothing but straight up violence. The person even had Coola saying "Yeah man!". This was back in 2005.
Broly, or any villian coming back from Hell isn't necessarily a bad thing, as long it's not like "Broly randomly has SSJ4 now and can regenerate" or something like that.
Also, I know why do people think Saiyans can reproduce homosexually?
Spoiler:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Gog wrote:The cell saga/android saga is the worst thing Akira Toriyama ever made. And nothing has ever actually managed to come close to it, after it. Even the terrible asspulls in the FT saga, weren't as bad as that. But of course this is all my opinion.
You've just made a new best friend.
Marz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:27 pm
"Well, the chapter was good, the story was good and so were the fights. But a new transformation, in Dragon Ball? And one that's ugly? This is where we draw the line!!! Jump the Shark moment!!"
This forum is so over-dramatic that it's not even funny.
90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm19 years ago I was rushing home from school to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network, and today I've rushed home from work to watch DBS on Pop. I guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same.
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Like the infamous Hitler Goes Super Saiyan in the DBZ/Anne Frank crossover. (No, really)
I heard a DBZ/Anne Frank crossover fanfic during a panel at an anime convention a few years back. I don't remember Hitler turning Super Saiyan though. There can't be multiple DBZ/Anne Frank crossovers, can there?
Cure Dragon 255 wrote:Like the infamous Hitler Goes Super Saiyan in the DBZ/Anne Frank crossover. (No, really)
Please. Provide. Links.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
I'm going to keep searching for the original story link. It might not exist anymore though.
ALSO I'm Mega Flattered and happy you quoted me. It means a lot to me that I'm not only known as the guy who screams "APOLOGIST/SYCOPHANT". You are awesome.
Spoiler:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Gog wrote:The cell saga/android saga is the worst thing Akira Toriyama ever made. And nothing has ever actually managed to come close to it, after it. Even the terrible asspulls in the FT saga, weren't as bad as that. But of course this is all my opinion.
You've just made a new best friend.
Marz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:27 pm
"Well, the chapter was good, the story was good and so were the fights. But a new transformation, in Dragon Ball? And one that's ugly? This is where we draw the line!!! Jump the Shark moment!!"
This forum is so over-dramatic that it's not even funny.
90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm19 years ago I was rushing home from school to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network, and today I've rushed home from work to watch DBS on Pop. I guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same.
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: ↑Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
The Anne Frank crossover is a good example why you should not mix somethings together. I knew about the crossover for years and it makes me lost faith in humanity. Not even Sonichu is that bad compare to this.
Seriously? SONICHU is better? Did I hand you the "Videl Discovers her Abortion Fetish" link?
...I'm not going to share a link to that story BTW. And believe me, you are better off not knowing about it.
But really.
I know this is a TERRIBLE fic but I dont get you. Its some silly, harmless "Goku Saves Anne Frank and she lives happily ever after". I mean, I do have some ideas for why you feel that way. But i would like to hear it from you.
Spoiler:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Gog wrote:The cell saga/android saga is the worst thing Akira Toriyama ever made. And nothing has ever actually managed to come close to it, after it. Even the terrible asspulls in the FT saga, weren't as bad as that. But of course this is all my opinion.
You've just made a new best friend.
Marz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:27 pm
"Well, the chapter was good, the story was good and so were the fights. But a new transformation, in Dragon Ball? And one that's ugly? This is where we draw the line!!! Jump the Shark moment!!"
This forum is so over-dramatic that it's not even funny.
90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm19 years ago I was rushing home from school to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network, and today I've rushed home from work to watch DBS on Pop. I guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same.
I'm sorry you had to read that. No one wishes that even upon thier worst enemy.
I'm still curious as to why Sonichu is better than the whole Anne Ball Z shebang, though.
Spoiler:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Gog wrote:The cell saga/android saga is the worst thing Akira Toriyama ever made. And nothing has ever actually managed to come close to it, after it. Even the terrible asspulls in the FT saga, weren't as bad as that. But of course this is all my opinion.
You've just made a new best friend.
Marz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:27 pm
"Well, the chapter was good, the story was good and so were the fights. But a new transformation, in Dragon Ball? And one that's ugly? This is where we draw the line!!! Jump the Shark moment!!"
This forum is so over-dramatic that it's not even funny.
90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm19 years ago I was rushing home from school to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network, and today I've rushed home from work to watch DBS on Pop. I guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same.
Because Sonichu is a stupid crossover with Pikachu and Sonic made by Chris Chan, a guy with no life while DBZ meets Anne Frank is a crossover with a real person who suffer through a horrible time during the Holocaust which kill over 6 million Jews. The idea of DBZ and Anne Frank together makes me go "WTF?!" and feels insulting to me. That's just my opinion though.
Last edited by Hellspawn28 on Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Hellspawn28 wrote:Because Sonichu is a stupid crossover with Pikachu and Sonic made by Chris Chan, a guy with no life while DBZ meets Anne Frank is a crossover with a real person who suffer through a horrible time during the Holocaust which kill over 6 million Jews. The idea of DBZ and Anne Frank together makes me go "WTF?!" and feels insulting to me. That's just my opinion though.
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I see. Yeah. You are right.
Spoiler:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Gog wrote:The cell saga/android saga is the worst thing Akira Toriyama ever made. And nothing has ever actually managed to come close to it, after it. Even the terrible asspulls in the FT saga, weren't as bad as that. But of course this is all my opinion.
You've just made a new best friend.
Marz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:27 pm
"Well, the chapter was good, the story was good and so were the fights. But a new transformation, in Dragon Ball? And one that's ugly? This is where we draw the line!!! Jump the Shark moment!!"
This forum is so over-dramatic that it's not even funny.
90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm19 years ago I was rushing home from school to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network, and today I've rushed home from work to watch DBS on Pop. I guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same.
I remember coming across this terrible fanfic which depicts Goku as a total jerk who is rich for no reason. He is even stated to wear "G-Unit" clothing (da frak?). He also cheats on Chi-Chi with this female names Jennifer and it just gets ugly from down there.
I seen awful shipping from fans. I never get why people ship Trunks and Pan when Pan is 9 and Trunks is in his 20's. That would be like a college student dating someone in the 4th grade.
Trunks and Pan stuff is everywhere too. It seems to come in 4 flavors.
The most common is made by fangirls who think GT Trunks is the same age as Future Trunks and think Pan is really 14. This is really rather age appropriate. Not at all series accurate though.
The second most common is the straight up pedo stuff, where Trunks simply likes little girls, and Pan likes older men. It tends to be to one extreem or the other, either more graphic than the fangirl stuff, or less physical, more romantic, due to the age difference. A lot of times, it's just a mutual crush.
The third type also thinks of Pan as 14, and it's mostly lighthearted romantic stuff from Pan, with Trunks being a bit embarrassed and/or excited by the circumstancess and the taboo.
The least most common knows how old Pan and Trunks are, and has it as a (mostly) one sided crush, with maybe a chaste kiss or an embarrassing situation being the furthest anyone goes.
I suppose there's a fifth type where people make them the same age regardless of the source material... How many Adult Pan images have we all seen?
I always found the whole Trunks/Pan thing creepy because it supports pedophilia. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. It's deadass wrong and I wish said fics were banned.
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