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The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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Vegetas tail grows back on Namek, does Oozaru help him against final form freeza? Enough to at least survive till Goku gets there?
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I wouldn't make make a difference. The gap in terms of strength from Freeza's third form to his final form is so large you really have to become SSJ put up any kind. And of course, it also hinges on how strong you are in your base form. Anything below 1,000,000 and you don't stand a chance.TobyS wrote:Vegetas tail grows back on Namek, does Oozaru help him against final form freeza? Enough to at least survive till Goku gets there?
Long story short, Final Form Freeza one shots Oozaru Vegeta.
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If he surprised Freeza with an all out attack while he was distracted and at 3% power he could kill him. Oozaru Vegeta would be stronger than Goku unless he used KKx9/10.TobyS wrote:Vegetas tail grows back on Namek, does Oozaru help him against final form freeza? Enough to at least survive till Goku gets there?
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Only until Freeza decides to use 50% like he did against Goku.TobyS wrote:Vegetas tail grows back on Namek, does Oozaru help him against final form freeza? Enough to at least survive till Goku gets there?
Vegeta: 2-2.5 million
-- Oozaru: 20-25 million
Freeza (50%): 60 million
I'm sure Freeza is well-versed enough on Saiyans to know to remove his tail, too.
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Nope. Freeza can jump to 70% of his power (84,000,000) instantly. Vegeta would be around 20 million as an Oozaru, since he was far weaker than base Goku, who was 3 million, and Oozaru is only a x10 boost. So Freeza would kill him with one hit.TobyS wrote:Vegetas tail grows back on Namek, does Oozaru help him against final form freeza? Enough to at least survive till Goku gets there?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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End of Series Yusuke runs a DB gauntlet. How far does he make it.
Soul Society Rescue Arc Ichigo also runs a DB gauntlet.
Demon Form for Yusuke and Bankai for Ichigo allowed.
Soul Society Rescue Arc Ichigo also runs a DB gauntlet.
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He stops at 23rd Budokai Goku after an extremely tough fight. His demon form pushes him up to Garlic Jr though.KentalSSJ6 wrote:End of Series Yusuke runs a DB gauntlet. How far does he make it.
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Yusuke reaches the Saiyan arc before hitting a wall against VegetaKentalSSJ6 wrote:End of Series Yusuke runs a DB gauntlet. How far does he make it.
Soul Society Rescue Arc Ichigo also runs a DB gauntlet.
Demon Form for Yusuke and Bankai for Ichigo allowed.
Ichigo would reach the Namek arc before hitting a wall against The Ginyu Force
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Cell Games Kamiccolo vs. 2nd stage Cell
Buu arc Kamiccolo vs. SSjin Goten [pre-roast bbq]
Buu arc Kamiccolo vs. SSjin Goten [pre-roast bbq]
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Piccolo rapes in both battles.SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Cell Games Kamiccolo vs. 2nd stage Cell
Buu arc Kamiccolo vs. SSjin Goten [pre-roast bbq]
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Piccolo defeats Cell easily, but then Goten kicks the shit out of him.SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Cell Games Kamiccolo vs. 2nd stage Cell
Buu arc Kamiccolo vs. SSjin Goten [pre-roast bbq]
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Piccolo flicks Semi-Cell away.SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Cell Games Kamiccolo vs. 2nd stage Cell
Buu arc Kamiccolo vs. SSjin Goten [pre-roast bbq]
Piccolo can potentially land one hit on Goten, and that's only if he's improved a bit since the Cell Games. If not then he gets one shotted.
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Piccolo wins both. Even if he is weaker than Goten he's still at least 3x the fighter that little shit is.SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Cell Games Kamiccolo vs. 2nd stage Cell
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Piccolo's supposed skill as a fighter means jack. He fought someone with apparently no martial arts training and no knowledge of ki control at completely equal power levels (or Piccolo was slightly stronger), and they were going blow for blow, with neither gaining an advantage. Until Piccolo started getting tired, of course.Even if he is weaker than Goten he's still at least 3x the fighter that little shit is.
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Skill doesn't even matter with a power advantage like that. Goten would crush his skull in. [imo]
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Let's say Vegeta had agreed with Goku to go fight Buu right after he hatched.
SSJ2 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and Kioshin vs Fat Buu
If it makes a difference, put Dabura on the heroes' side. Say he was willing to work with them to kill Buu.
SSJ2 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and Kioshin vs Fat Buu
If it makes a difference, put Dabura on the heroes' side. Say he was willing to work with them to kill Buu.
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Well if Piccolo's word is word of god (hah), then it would have made no difference. An army of SSJ2's could go up against Buu and they'd still lose.Super SaiyaJon wrote:Let's say Vegeta had agreed with Goku to go fight Buu right after he hatched.
SSJ2 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and Kioshin vs Fat Buu
If it makes a difference, put Dabura on the heroes' side. Say he was willing to work with them to kill Buu.
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They beat him around for a while. Then he gets angry, powers up, and releases an explosive wave like he did after Vegeta pissed him off by hurting him a tiny bit. This outright kills Kaioshin, Dabra, and SS2 Gohan, and heavily wounds SS2 Goku and Vegeta. Fat Buu then proceeds to defeat them by lightly smacking them, tangling them in his stomach, and sitting on them.Super SaiyaJon wrote:Let's say Vegeta had agreed with Goku to go fight Buu right after he hatched.
SSJ2 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and Kioshin vs Fat Buu
If it makes a difference, put Dabura on the heroes' side. Say he was willing to work with them to kill Buu.
So, basically the fight he already had with Majin Vegeta, except with more fodder to kill.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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RandomGuy96 wrote:They beat him around for a while. Then he gets angry, powers up, and releases an explosive wave like he did after Vegeta pissed him off by hurting him a tiny bit. This outright kills Kaioshin, Dabra, and SS2 Gohan, and heavily wounds SS2 Goku and Vegeta. Fat Buu then proceeds to defeat them by lightly smacking them, tangling them in his stomach, and sitting on them.Super SaiyaJon wrote:Let's say Vegeta had agreed with Goku to go fight Buu right after he hatched.
SSJ2 Goku, SSJ2 Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and Kioshin vs Fat Buu
If it makes a difference, put Dabura on the heroes' side. Say he was willing to work with them to kill Buu.
So, basically the fight he already had with Majin Vegeta, except with more fodder to kill.
A bit off topic but, do you think Fat Buu powered up when he did that angry explosion attack vs Vegeta? Whatc gap do you have between Fat buu(angry explosion) and Vegeta?