Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

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Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by eledoremassis02 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:31 am

I'm trying to organize my manga and I'm not fully sure how to it "Chronologically" I have Jaco then Dragon Ball (and Z) and Dr. Slump. Sould Dr. Slump go before Dragon Ball or even before Jaco??

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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball?

Post by The Tori-bot » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:42 am

It shouldn't really go anywhere. Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball really don't mesh together - it's not like a full-on shared universe like Marvel or DC or whatever. They're two entirely separate series by the same author that happened to have a crossover, which depending on who you ask involved actual travel between fictional universes in order to be possible. I guess it's kinda like the old Marvel/DC crossover comics in that sense, or John Munch showing up on The X-Files.

When you get down to it, asking where Dr. Slump fits in Dragon Ball chronology is like asking (to continue with my John Munch analogy) where Law & Order: SVU fits into Arrested Development - it doesn't, but I suppose after Jaco and before DB makes as much sense as anything just going by the characters' ages. The crossover definitely takes place after the end of the Dr. Slump manga, at any rate.
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:44 am

Wasn't there a Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball crossover episode? So it's technically the same universe, no?
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by Dyno » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:52 am

Also, is Dragon Ball Minus separated from Jaco? If so, it comes earlier than Jaco, of course.

I don't know how Viz handled it, and since I don't live in these lucky countries...

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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by The Tori-bot » Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:52 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:Wasn't there a Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball crossover episode? So it's technically the same universe, no?
Technically, but then I don't remember the Sun and the Moon being living things with faces in Dragon Ball. Puts a whole new spin on all those folks blowing up the Moon, doesn't it? And Ōzaru, for that matter...
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:08 am

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fadeddreams5 wrote:Wasn't there a Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball crossover episode? So it's technically the same universe, no?
Technically, but then I don't remember the Sun and the Moon being living things with faces in Dragon Ball. Puts a whole new spin on all those folks blowing up the Moon, doesn't it? And Ōzaru, for that matter...
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by eledoremassis02 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:25 am

I sorta see it like the Toontown of Dragon Ball. But thats a good idea Tori-bot, I think it looks pretty good :D

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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:40 am

fadeddreams5 wrote:Wasn't there a Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball crossover episode? So it's technically the same universe, no?
Not always. You can say that Arale in Dragon Ball is not the same character in Dr. Slump. There could be a Arale within in the Dragon Ball universe and a Goku within in the Dr. Slump universe. Having crossovers and cameos from the same creator does not mean that they exist in the same universe. Both Evagelion and Gurren Lagann are made by the same company and have cameos of Rei & Asuka in a episode of TTGL. Neither shows exist in the same universe.
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by Bullza » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:47 am

Toriko and Goku show up in an episode of One Piece and that's not a shared universe either. It's just a crossover, simple as that.

Same with Dabura showing up in Sandland.

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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by ZazamPow » Sat Mar 07, 2015 2:58 am

Bullza wrote:Toriko and Goku show up in an episode of One Piece and that's not a shared universe either. It's just a crossover, simple as that.

Same with Dabura showing up in Sandland.
That's different though. Unlike the Dragon Ball/One Piece/Toriko crossover, which can easily be disregarded as non canon, the Dragon Ball and Dr. Slump crossover had important plot developments and repercussions for the Dragon Ball story. If those events were non canon, then we're left with a big hole in the Red Ribbon Army arc.
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by The Tori-bot » Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:31 am

eledoremassis02 wrote:I sorta see it like the Toontown of Dragon Ball.
Heh, that's actually perfect. New headcanon!
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by VegettoEX » Sat Mar 07, 2015 8:49 am

I have Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball on different shelves (and actually they're not even on the same floor of the house), so that simplifies things for me...!

For what it's worth, I put Jaco at the end of the manga followed by Neko Majin.

"Dragon Ball Minus" is within the Jaco collected release, right at the end; you can't separate it out.
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by AnzuMazaki » Sat Mar 07, 2015 9:54 am

I personally think Dr. Slump takes place inbetween Jaco and Dragonball.
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Mar 07, 2015 1:35 pm

I like to think that Dr. Slump, Dragon Ball SD, and Neko Majin take place in a parallel (gag) world from the manga, but because of an accident with one of Senbei's inventions (after the end of the Dr. Slump manga), the whole Penguin Village was teleported into the Dragon Ball manga world. That would explain why the crossover didn't happen in SD, and for those who don't know, the future events of Neko Majin were shown in a chapter of SD, and Neko Majin is stated to take place in a parallel world in Chozenshuu 4.
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by Darknat » Mon Mar 09, 2015 7:55 am

The story of Jaco is told by Omori and it happens just before Dragon Ball, so technically it's a flashback. That means that Dr Slump happens before the Jaco manga, but the main events of the Jaco manga actually happen before Dr Slump.

However if you include Jaco, you hsould also probably include Sachi-chan and Jiya as well since they are also related to the Galactic Patrol.

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Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 09, 2015 8:49 am

VegettoEX wrote:I have Dr. Slump and Dragon Ball on different shelves (and actually they're not even on the same floor of the house), so that simplifies things for me...!

For what it's worth, I put Jaco at the end of the manga followed by Neko Majin.

"Dragon Ball Minus" is within the Jaco collected release, right at the end; you can't separate it out.
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:10 am

Just to weigh in on this myself, I also tend to like having things in chronological order on the shelves (series in-universe wise, I mean), so for my shelf I've currently got Jaco in front, followed by Dragon Ball/Z, and then what few Dr. Slump volumes I have so far are at the end after that. I've given up trying to figure out an exact place to put Dr. Slump in relation to DB, because Slump is just...that...insane.

Oh, and I also like to group author's material together, so Sand Land and Cowa! are sitting there at the end past Slump too.
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Mar 09, 2015 10:54 am

Ugh. It's people like you that are the reason the ordering of The Chronicles of Narnia got all screwed up. Chronological, my sexy ass! :wink:

In all seriousness... well, the above is actually how I feel. I arrange things chronologically according to release. The original Star Wars trilogy always goes in front of the prequels. The Magician's Nephew is the sixth Narnia book, not the first. And I plan to put Jaco at the end of my Dragon Ball manga collection.
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:21 am

But...but the author's intended order! Intended order man! :P

Though with my copy of Narnia it's not like I've got much choice...all seven books, in chronological order, put into one massive volume.
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Re: Dr. Slump before Dragon Ball and Jaco?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Mar 09, 2015 11:43 am

Intended order, my fanny. If he'd intended to put it out in that order, he would have put it out in that order. And don't say you're trying to claim that Jaco is Toriyama's intended order before Dragon Ball. The background events of Jaco wouldn't make any sense if you didn't already know Dragon Ball. That's why it's called a prequel. It's a pre-sequel, operative word being sequel. Same thing for Narnia, where, in The Magician's Nephew, the book immediately opens by saying, "This is where Narnia came from," because it's assuming you already know what the hell this "Narnia" is.
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