Please, tell me I'm wrong about Sumitomo...
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Please, tell me I'm wrong about Sumitomo...
I'm crazy, or... ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy9yjwBUdPo
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Wow! Good find. Very fishy. But unless more pieces like this are found, I think we can just call it a coincidence. A really, really, really strange and unfortunate coincidence. At least Yamamoto had like 20 pieces like this, whereas Sumitomo only has 1 that we know of so far.ShinGaijin wrote:I'm crazy, or... ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy9yjwBUdPo
Luckily, t's not similar enough to call it straight up plagiarizing. But we should keep an eye on him. This really breaks my heart. I don't want this to be true.
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The same for me ! I love his style so much...his orchestral compositions are amazing.I don't want another scandal, but..it's..strange. O_o I hope you're right, really.MarCas92 wrote:ShinGaijin wrote:This really breaks my heart. I don't want this to be true.
Duuh. I've found this on another thread (The Beatles/Sumitomo) http://pt.buric.co/kai_vs_ss.mp3
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Wow, I love that movie and never caught this. Like MarCas92 said, it's probably a coincidence, though I never seem to be able to notice these until they're compared side by side.
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Yeah, it sounds like the riff was borrowed a bit from The Professional. But it's nothing that I would label as plagiarism, as it seems like just a coincidence.ShinGaijin wrote:I'm crazy, or... ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oy9yjwBUdPo
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Okay. That's really bad. Now I'm REALLY skeptical.ShinGaijin wrote: http://pt.buric.co/kai_vs_ss.mp3
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Which track is that? Because I don't remember hearing in the official OST for Kai 2.0 that was released.MarCas92 wrote:Okay. That's really bad. Now I'm REALLY skeptical.ShinGaijin wrote: http://pt.buric.co/kai_vs_ss.mp3
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We really do not need another scandal
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This was over in the RF thread, I thought I would put it here since that's what this one is devoted to. I definitely see the similarity in this one just like the last two, but once again, I'm not sure I'd call it plagiarism.MrKaytos wrote:I've just heard Norihito Sumitomo's OST and well... one of his soundtracks reminds me Super Mario. I've just uploaded a video with the comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ7TTg59al4
What do you think? :O
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If Toei wants to fix this they should get either Shiroh Sagisu or Yoshihisa Hirano for any DB related stuff.
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Wouldn't mind if Toei would fire him, cause his music was never as good as Kikuchi's (DB, Z), Yamamoto's (Kai, Games), Tokunaga's (GT), Takaki's (UB), Tenkaichi 2 Team or Kishi.
Yeah sure Yamamoto plagiarised too but at least he gave us awesome soundtracks for everything he worked on.
Yeah sure Yamamoto plagiarised too but at least he gave us awesome soundtracks for everything he worked on.
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So he's not only a bad composer, but plagiator as well. Muhahaha, what a surprise!!
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It's really not very similar, except for the first eight notes of what the string section plays in each.
The first clip made use of the harmonic minor scale, while Sumitomo did not.
The first clip made use of the harmonic minor scale, while Sumitomo did not.
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I doubt that toei wants another scandal on there hands remember kai 2.0 was being done around the time battle of gods was in production. If he had infringed in any way he would've been fired way before bog hit theatres and kai would've been pushed back
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Well, Japanese are ignorant to what exists abroad if it doesn't fit with them. That was the case with Yamamoto as well.Naruto6583 wrote:I doubt that toei wants another scandal on there hands remember kai 2.0 was being done around the time battle of gods was in production. If he had infringed in any way he would've been fired way before bog hit theatres and kai would've been pushed back
So before someone from outside points that thing out, they won't know.
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I was rocking to training with whis track and well I don't think it's a rip off, but this part
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLvpPt8Nudo#t=0m32s
Sounds like, this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPo9Gd2z6rI#t=4m21s
Listen to them with headphones, The backing of the track "training with whis" sounds very similar to the bass of "Black magic woman" last solo, and the guitar is kinda simliar, I don't think it's a rip off, it just sounds similar. and I love Santana anyways XD
All in all the tracks sounds very simliar for a little while, it's not the whole thing though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLvpPt8Nudo#t=0m32s
Sounds like, this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPo9Gd2z6rI#t=4m21s
Listen to them with headphones, The backing of the track "training with whis" sounds very similar to the bass of "Black magic woman" last solo, and the guitar is kinda simliar, I don't think it's a rip off, it just sounds similar. and I love Santana anyways XD
All in all the tracks sounds very simliar for a little while, it's not the whole thing though.
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You guys should chill out. After Yamamoto, you think that everyone is stealing music.
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This is what I stated before I mean why would toei risk the chance of having another artist that infringed and go through all that crap again? I'm pretty sure they checked him out before kai and if he had infringed someone else would've composed for kai, bog, fnf, super etc.TheRed259 wrote:You guys should chill out. After Yamamoto, you think that everyone is stealing music.
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Well then what about this?
From Kai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qan_lAsbwOY
From Pandemic 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1lPaXndPM
Literally side by side its exactly the same song
From Kai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qan_lAsbwOY
From Pandemic 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ1lPaXndPM
Literally side by side its exactly the same song