More surviving saiyans in Super?

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More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu May 21, 2015 5:29 pm

So would you guys like to see more surviving saiyans in Super? After the Saiyan saga, we had Turles, Paragus, Broli and Tarble. I personally don't want any more in Super because I feel like we had enough Saiyans in total. Not to mention I feel like a evil Saiyan would be a rehash of Saiyan Saga Vegeta (A evil Saiyan coming to Earth for the Dragon Balls to be powerful) or a rehash of Broli (A surviving saiyan that is a super saiyan and can own the z fighters). However if they do have surviving saiyans in Super then I hope they can do something original like go to the original Saiyan home planet before they move to Planet Vegeta.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by voltlunok » Thu May 21, 2015 5:37 pm

There is a chance, I mean there had to be small colonies of saiyans on the planets they conquered and we've never actually seen the saiyan's true homeworld. I wouldn't mind them addressing these things but I'd only like it as a mini arc. Having ANOTHER saiyan appear would be weird in my opinion but I'm open to the idea if it's something like a female saiyan, just so we can see how Toriyama would depict a female pure blooded saiyan. I don't want another villain saiyan...nor do I want another saiyan to join the ranks of the Z Fighters for a long period of time cause that would just cement the show as the saiyan power hour even further. Again, open to the idea but cautious optimism.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by Basaku » Thu May 21, 2015 5:42 pm

Yeah, if anything it should be a female warrior Saiyan. Would be cool if she was in Goku/Vegeta's age group and could provide a bit different perspective on the race/culture. Maybe she could come with son/daughter in younger age group if the shows needs young Saiyan unrelated to the 2 already existing families, but definitely no more evil (male) Saiyans, that's so old now even if most of them were not canon

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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by Marco Polo » Thu May 21, 2015 5:53 pm

I wouldn't mind the original Super Saiyan God showing up. As a good dead being that kept his body, of course.

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Post by Akyon » Thu May 21, 2015 5:54 pm

Full Saiyans? No thanks.

Half Saiyans, half other sexual compatible aliens? ...maybe? I'd laugh my ass off at the offspring of Tarble and his wife for example.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by MarCas92 » Thu May 21, 2015 6:05 pm

I hope not. Although I like Tarble. I feel having more Saiyajins would be a lazy story device. Let's focus on other things, I want something new.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu May 21, 2015 6:14 pm

I don't really want anymore surviving Saiyans, though a female member of the race is practically the only thing I would consider tolerating at this point.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu May 21, 2015 6:18 pm

I'd like to think that with Toriyama's aide, the concept of 'more Saiyans' could turn out to be new in ways we wouldn't expect, and be a fun enough story...but it's definitely not near the top of things I expect or want to see either.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by clutchins » Thu May 21, 2015 6:25 pm

As much as any fan would like to see it, I don't think we'll ever get a full-blooded female Saiyan because of even the slightest (in-universe) chance of a Saiyan repopulation.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu May 21, 2015 6:29 pm

clutchins wrote:As much as any fan would like to see it, I don't think we'll ever get a full-blooded female Saiyan because of even the slightest (in-universe) chance of a Saiyan repopulation.
Having a single surviving female isn't even close to a slight chance. You would need at least a couple hundred gendered pairs that are mostly unrelated to have enough genetic diversity for repopulation.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by Chuquita » Thu May 21, 2015 6:34 pm

And would they even want to repopulate is another thing.

I doubt we'll ever get any more saiyans, and I'm ok with that, but if we did I'd like them to have been on Planet Saiya all along.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu May 21, 2015 6:41 pm

The last surviving saiyan, Tarble, was a poop character. No interested.
But I would like to see the original super saiyan god.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu May 21, 2015 6:47 pm

FortuneSSJ wrote:The last surviving saiyan, Tarble, was a poop character. No interested.
He's not a favorite character of mine or anything, but...I seriously don't get it. What do so many people have against Table? Is it just because he's not yet another token 'Saiyan badass'? Cuz honestly, that's what makes him interesting and stands out amongst the others IMO. Vegeta's brother being pretty much exactly like him would have been too easy and expected.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by B » Thu May 21, 2015 6:57 pm

It's been done seriously(Broly, Tullece) and as a joke(Onio, Tarble). It can't be a focal point, or even worse, a villain. I would cry.

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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by Lord Beerus » Thu May 21, 2015 7:14 pm

No. More. Surviving. Saiyans. It's such an overplayed trope in fanfiction, and I don't want that in Dragon Ball Super, unless... it's a female Saiyan. But even then, I'd doubt I'd still tolerate the idea of more mystery Saiyans turning up out of nowhere.

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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu May 21, 2015 7:18 pm

Please, please, no. There have already been far too many, far too many transformations based around them, far too much focus on the story. I am tired of going back to that well. Let's focus on something totally different, please.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by Basaku » Thu May 21, 2015 7:25 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:far too many transformations based around them
:?: SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSJ4, SSG, SSWUFEFHIWFWF, all debuted with Goku/Gohan.

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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by FortuneSSJ » Thu May 21, 2015 7:44 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote: He's not a favorite character of mine or anything, but...I seriously don't get it. What do so many people have against Table? Is it just because he's not yet another token 'Saiyan badass'? Cuz honestly, that's what makes him interesting and stands out amongst the others IMO. Vegeta's brother being pretty much exactly like him would have been too easy and expected.
I would rather, after all this time Vegeta don't having a brother at all.

Not only he's another survivor, but he's a joke too. Gohan for example is a nerd but he can fight.
Tarble was introduced a full-blooded saiyan son of the King, brother of the prince, that can't fight...
His wife is a joke too, by the way. Everything about him is boring.

Yup, he's different from the rest but this time, being different isn't a good thing.

I don't even ask for him to have the same personality that Vegeta, because I agree that would be boring and expected.
But they could made his character more interesting

Take Goku/Raditz and Gohan/Goten as example.
None of the four was useless. All of them can fight and each one is different from the other.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by Gaffer Tape » Thu May 21, 2015 7:48 pm

Basaku wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:far too many transformations based around them
:?: SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSJ4, SSG, SSWUFEFHIWFWF, all debuted with Goku/Gohan.
Yes, but they're all Saiyans. I wasn't saying there were too many transformations because there were too many Saiyans, but that there is already a predominant focus on the ones we do have, so that clogging it up with even more Saiyan characters would exacerbate that problem even more.
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Re: More surviving saiyans in Super?

Post by Basaku » Thu May 21, 2015 7:59 pm

Gaffer Tape wrote:
Basaku wrote:
Gaffer Tape wrote:far too many transformations based around them
:?: SSJ1, SSJ2, SSJ3, SSJ4, SSG, SSWUFEFHIWFWF, all debuted with Goku/Gohan.
Yes, but they're all Saiyans. I wasn't saying there were too many transformations because there were too many Saiyans, but that there is already a predominant focus on the ones we do have, so that clogging it up with even more Saiyan characters would exacerbate that problem even more.
Until they write a lore excuse to increase power level of non-Saiyan characters (which should've been done long time ago half-way through Z) AND until Toriyama and Toei become interested again in characters not-named Goku or Vegeta, how does it even matter how many Saiyans there are? We already have many and yet only 2 of them are getting relevant stories and screentime at the moment. Maybe another pure-blooded Saiyan is the only way to stop Super from being Goku&Vegeta-pampering show?

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