A big problem with this line of discussion: the line of thought is that 'war' is only a word for describing battles between armies. Battles are a big part of it, yes, but they are not the only part of what makes a
story interesting. Toriyama doesn't even write battles anymore, as evidenced by the script for
Fukkatsu no F. If we know Toriyama isn't going to write battle scenes and we know he isn't going to write actual political, social and philosophical reasons for a war...what the heck is the point of it all?
fexus wrote:
Again that doesn't have anything to do with the writing. He just doesn't want to do it. The thing here is that we haven't seen him doing anything like that. This makes all your post so far a speculation. I don't care if you want to speculate but trying to make it out like an obvious fact is just out of line.
It's a good thing I never said anything was 100% impossible. If you actually look at my posts you'll see the entire point is that
based on a thirty year history it is hugely, highly improbable that such a storyline would ever come from Toriyama, who is being promoted as the person behind the story of
Dragon Ball Super. Toriyama is the figurehead Toei Animation has tried to rely on in recent years for their
Dragon Ball stories, so it stands to reason the series isn't going to get much more creative on its own. Every comment in this thread is speculation or wild wish-making. My speculation just so happens to rely heavily upon pre-established facts. History exists so we can mine from it wisdom. It would be wise to expect the wheel to keep spinning so long as Toriyama is at the helm. The otherwise wild and aimless speculation isn't going to lead to any sort of satisfying and meaningful discussion. Let's weed out the horse manure so we can start having some actual fun.
fexus wrote:I know you like Naruto and I respect that but making your fanboyism stand out so much just makes me sick.
Making personal attacks--whether baseless or not--shows a tremendous lack of faith in one's ability to convince others of their argument's strength and validity. That being said, don't half-ass your personal attack. If you want to make me feel bad for daring to oppose you put some fuckin' elbow grease into it. Don't just say something, explain it! Pick it apart, how the hell am I suppose to know why I'm a horrible human being and destined to burn in Hell for eternity if you are merely going to say
that much? This comment is as half-assed as the explanations in this thread--or rather, lack thereof--as to why the Fourth Great Shinobi War arc in
Naruto was bad. Mind you, it has it's faults--plenty of which I'd wager was simply due to JUMP editorial wanting the series to run longer--but it still serves as being an organic part of the series it is from. In contrast, one little comment that wasn't even submitted with a full proposal is now being treated by users in this thread as something actually worthy of discussion despite a sufficient degree of development to even lend credence to its likelihood or usefulness in a non-existent story!
Regarding this supposed 'fanboyism': nobody in their right mind gives a shit about negativity. People like to read positive things. Who listens to the Kanzenshuu Podcast for negativity? Nobody. We listen to it because the hosts are really fuckin' passionate about what they're talking about. If steadfast defense is now a negative I see no reason for anyone to ever discuss anything on the internet again. Hell, I wouldn't even say I've been particularly steadfast in my argument today, either. I've pointed out one or two things regarding a difference in reliance on themes between two different series and used that as the basis for the argument that one of said two series simply would not indulge in a certain type of storyline. That's it. Surface layer-level stuff, really.
Let's try to elevate the discussion here. Right now this discussion has been as satisfying as eating candy for breakfast: horribly empty and unmistakably due to lead to rot of the teeth, stomach, mind and body.
The irony of it all now is I feel like I've said everything I have to say on the subject and am ready to turn the page.
