For the DBS anime, the regular multiplier theory applies just fine. Kefla and her SS forms are pretty straightforward. Same for Vegito Blue, no previous forms to mess things up like in Broly, the DBS manga, or Z (Gotenks, and base Vegito, we looking at you).
It seems some theories might not apply to every fusion. Which is logical, considering not every fusion has been written by the same person, and they depend on different plot needs.
But Kefla being the outlier could be worked out by virtue of her being part LSS, IDK, thus her being the only one with the regular SS multiplier... although Vegito has it as well, apparently, in the manga, so maybe it's the Potara?
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It's a headache really, nothing will ever make 100% sense due to the lax approach to fusion.
picc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 16, 2023 7:58 pm
Hypothetically, if Broly went SSJ2 while training on Beerus' planet with Goku and Vegeta, how strong do we think he'd get?
Lets assume for the sake of argument that he is indeed capable of going SSJ2, and his SSJ level is similar or a little stronger than what he showed against Gogeta.
Bonus Question: I'm sure its been discussed ad nauseum here, but Freeza's training gains potential is kind of a plot hole right? If he gained power at the hyper-accelerated rate he does through training, shouldn't he basically be invincible in any fight, as a result of rapidly getting stronger the longer it goes on?
He'd double the power he had in the Broly movie. With some bonus, I guess, just like Kefla.
We know UI Goku can tank Moro7-3, who was above Broly, so he would also tank Broly, easier. How strong do you need to be to tank somebody? I guess a 2x boost would do, if 2nd form Cell got that boost after absorbing 18, and managed to tank 16's punch.
But LSS2 Broly might get a bonus or his power might keep on increasing for a while. He'd be at UI Goku level, or above, from the Moro arc. Whatever bonus boost he'd get, he'd still be below Granola who is clearly above the Moro arc entirely. He caps at Granola before the red eye is unlocked. At best, I can see him on par with UE Vegeta, but they seem way above the Moro arc.
BONUS Q: I don't think so, he clearly has more gains in less time than anybody else, but after 10 years of training I would've expected him to use the Golden form to oneshot everybody, yet he used a brand new form.
We also don't really know how fast he grows, it took him 4 months, yes, but we don't know how that happened. Does he need to rest after some time? maybe he needs to rest for like a week before being able to train again, maybe the gains are acrued up until a certain point and only then he gets a huge boost after apparently stagnanting for a while. It was implied he unlocked the golden form by the end of his 4 month training.
We still don't know much about Black Freeza, but if he got that strong in 4 months, then 10 years at the same rate should place him above Whis. So, his recent gains might not be as impressive if we compare them to his previous one.
He went from 120M to SSB level in 4 months. It took Goku 10 years or so.
Now he went from SSB level to above True UI in 10 years. It took Goku a year or so.