Anonymous Friend wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:44 pm
Funny thing, I suggested on this very site way back when MvC3 was active that DBZ needed a fighting game styled like that. Everyone here shot that down. The Hyper DBZ came around and a year later FighterZ.
Honestly, I still find the very idea of DBFZ to be weird, characters mostly fight by themselves in DB, making a game where team is the focus is an odd choice.
I still find it very ironic that Arcsys made a fighting game for Persona, which's an RPG franchise where you fight in teams, and made the fighter into a 1vs1 fighter, and them they made a fighting game about DB that is team based... Seriously ironic lol.
Arcsys isn't the only competent fighting game company out there. They juts happened to be the first to make an actually competitive on using the franchise.
I hear that Super Dragon Ball Z is a pretty good competitive game, even if the game has the Virtua Fighter syndrome of looking meh, and that's specially bad for a flashy franchise like DB.
And yeah, Arcsys is definitely not the only one being competent out there, specially now that SNK returned.
Beyond all the flair and references, this really isn't much difference from Capcom's Marvel titles or you know the stuff most other 2D anime fighters have been doing for two decades.
And it's specially weird if you compare with Arcsys' other stuff, because they like weird gameplay to a point that Blazblue has a puddle that shoots bees as a functional character.
Compared to their other titles, DBFZ is bland since a lot of characters play similarly, and compared to Marvel vs Capcom, it's also kinda bland with how safe they played with the movesets, though over time other characters got beefed up at least, Zamasu's flight is even worth a damn now from what I hear.
The thing with rollback is that japanese devs, who make the majority of fighter games, cater to japanese players who still have robust arcades on their relatively small island (compared to the rest of the world), therefor they mainly focus on arcades and console are someone an afterthought. And even still, when they use online, they don't have much of a problem on their small island. That's one plus for Covid, many industries have had to change how they do business.
The whole thing about Japan's connection being so good that companies don't bother with better netcode is a lie, and post Corona there was at least one Japanese tournament that looked pretty bad with how the game was playing, and while part of the reason it was because they were playing in a PS4 (There's higher input delay), the delay based connection wouldn't help too.
Makes sense the arcade scene being so active is part of the reason Japanese companies don't bother much with better connections, but I feel a bigger reason for it is just not wanting to change, Japanese culture can be rather stubborn in accepting change, and a company can be even worse with this (And Nintendo is the most obvious example of being stubborn with how terrible their online services are), not to mention, rollback netcode is basically a delay based netcode with more options on top of it, meaning, it's harder and more expensive to implement it, and companies can be rather cheap in wanting to waste money, combine that with them actually not wanting to change, and, yeah...
Though to be fair it's not just Japanese companies with this problem, Mortal Kombat returned in 9 and they didn't bother with rollback too, and as I said before, rollback has been around for a while, though at least I think they implemented it around MKX's life span, but still shouldn't have needed to wait this long, and Japanese companies definitely shouldn't need something like Corona to happen to have rollback be more widespread lol.
Oh well, unless Namco is super stubborn and doesn't want to bank Arcsys into implementing rollback (Which's, not impossible, the "rollback" in Tekken 7 is so terrible it might as well not be there, and Soul Calibur VI, a game released after Tekken 7, doesn't have it at all), DBFZ2 is likely gonna have it, whenever they release it lol.