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	'''Legendary Super Saiyan''' (or '''[the] legendary Super Saiyan''') is simultaneously a given title, a proper name for a transformation, and a nebulous fairy tale in the ''Dragon Ball'' franchise, assigned to different characters depending on the continuity or production in question. The phrase is perhaps most associated with the character [[Broli]], who is both referred to with the title "the legendary Super Saiyan" in dialog and who also exhibits a transformation explicitly labelled in production materials as "Legendary Super Saiyan".		'''Legendary Super Saiyan''' (or '''[the] legendary Super Saiyan''', or '''the Super Saiyan of legend''') is simultaneously a given title, a proper name for a transformation, and a nebulous fairy tale in the ''Dragon Ball'' franchise, assigned to different characters depending on the continuity or production in question.

			The phrase is perhaps most commonly associated with the character [[Broli]], who is both referred to with the title "the legendary Super Saiyan" in dialog and who also exhibits a transformation explicitly labelled in production materials as "Legendary Super Saiyan".

	==Name==		==Name==

	Legendary Super Saiyan is consistently written in Japanese as 伝説の超サイヤ人 (''Densetsu no Sūpā Saiya-jin'').		Legendary Super Saiyan is consistently written in Japanese as 伝説の超サイヤ人 (''Densetsu no Sūpā Saiya-jin''), with ''furigana'' above the 超 indicating a pronunciation of the English word "super" (as ''sūpā'') rather than the standard Japanese reading of ''chō'' — this is in line with the standard terminology for the overall "[[Super Saiyan]]" line of transformations.

	As there is no traditional capitalization in Japanese, 伝説の超サイヤ人 may be rendered ~~both~~ as "Legendary Super Saiyan" as a formal, proper-noun title and/or also as "[a/the] legendary Super Saiyan" as more of a descriptor. The interpretation is often left up to contextual understanding of the information otherwise being provided, and is often used both ways in the same material.		As there is no traditional capitalization in Japanese, 伝説の超サイヤ人 may be rendered as "Legendary Super Saiyan" as a formal/proper-noun title, and/or also as "[a/the] legendary Super Saiyan" (or "the Super Saiyan of legend") as more of a descriptor. The interpretation is often left up to contextual understanding of the information otherwise being provided, and is often used both ways in the same material.

	==Son Goku and the Original Serialization==		==Son Goku and the Original Serialization==

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	==Name==		==Name==

	Legendary Super Saiyan is consistently written in Japanese as 伝説の超サイヤ人 (''Densetsu no Sūpā ~~Saiyajin~~'').		Legendary Super Saiyan is consistently written in Japanese as 伝説の超サイヤ人 (''Densetsu no Sūpā Saiya-jin'').

	As there is no traditional capitalization in Japanese, 伝説の超サイヤ人 may be rendered both as "Legendary Super Saiyan" as a formal, proper-noun title and/or also as "[a/the] legendary Super Saiyan" as more of a descriptor. The interpretation is often left up to contextual understanding of the information otherwise being provided, and is often used both ways in the same material.		As there is no traditional capitalization in Japanese, 伝説の超サイヤ人 may be rendered both as "Legendary Super Saiyan" as a formal, proper-noun title and/or also as "[a/the] legendary Super Saiyan" as more of a descriptor. The interpretation is often left up to contextual understanding of the information otherwise being provided, and is often used both ways in the same material.

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	\| caption = Broli transforms into Legendary Super Saiyan		\| caption = Broli transforms into Legendary Super Saiyan
	\| jpn_title = 伝説の超サイヤ人		\| jpn_title = 伝説の超サイヤ人
	\| rom_title = Densetsu no Sūpā ~~Saiyajin~~		\| rom_title = Densetsu no Sūpā Saiya-jin
	\| eng_title = Legendary Super Saiyan		\| eng_title = Legendary Super Saiyan
	\| debut = Various		\| debut = Various

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	==Broli (Original 1990s Theatrical Version)==		==Broli (Original 1990s Theatrical Version)==
	[[File:broli-daiz6-movie8-forms.png\|thumb\|250px\|Broli's various forms and their respective names as outlined in the ''Daizenshuu 6: Movies & TV Specials'' overview of [[Dragon Ball Z Movie 8]]]]		[[File:broli-daiz6-movie8-forms.png\|thumb\|250px\|Broli's various forms and their respective names as outlined in the ''Daizenshuu 6: Movies & TV Specials'' memorial overview of [[Dragon Ball Z Movie 8]]]]
	[[File:broli-daiz6-movie8-model-gallery.png\|thumb\|250px\|The animation model gallery in ''Daizenshuu 6: Movies & TV Specials'' labels Broli's largest form as "[[Super Saiyan Grade II]]"]]		[[File:broli-daiz6-movie8-model-gallery.png\|thumb\|250px\|The animation model gallery in ''Daizenshuu 6: Movies & TV Specials'' labels Broli's largest form as "[[Super Saiyan Grade II]]"]]
	[[File:Daiz10 saiyan-genealogy.png\|thumb\|220px\|The "Super Saiyan Pedigree" column from ''Daizenshuu 10: TV Animation Part 3'' labels Broli's largest form as "Type B" in the Broli-type ~~brand~~ of the [[Super Saiyan]] variations]]		[[File:Daiz10 saiyan-genealogy.png\|thumb\|220px\|The "Super Saiyan Pedigree" column from ''Daizenshuu 10: TV Animation Part 3'' labels Broli's largest form as "Type B" in the Broli-type branch of the [[Super Saiyan]] variations]]

	Descriptions from film		Descriptions from film

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	==Broli (Original 1990s Theatrical Version)==		==Broli (Original 1990s Theatrical Version)==
			[[File:broli-daiz6-movie8-forms.png\|thumb\|250px\|Broli's various forms and their respective names as outlined in the ''Daizenshuu 6: Movies & TV Specials'' overview of [[Dragon Ball Z Movie 8]]]]
			[[File:broli-daiz6-movie8-model-gallery.png\|thumb\|250px\|The animation model gallery in ''Daizenshuu 6: Movies & TV Specials'' labels Broli's largest form as "[[Super Saiyan Grade II]]"]]
			[[File:Daiz10 saiyan-genealogy.png\|thumb\|220px\|The "Super Saiyan Pedigree" column from ''Daizenshuu 10: TV Animation Part 3'' labels Broli's largest form as "Type B" in the Broli-type brand of the [[Super Saiyan]] variations]]

	Descriptions from film		Descriptions from film

	Daizenshuu 6 animation model gallery labels huge form as "Super Saiyan Grade ~~Two~~" in contrast to blue-haired "Super Saiyan Grade ~~One~~" form		Daizenshuu 6 animation model gallery labels huge form as "Super Saiyan Grade II" in contrast to blue-haired "Super Saiyan Grade I" form

	Daizenshuu 10's Super Saiyan chart labels Broli's huge form as Type-B, with Type-A being his blue-haired form, and Type-C being his gold-haired skinny form seen in DBZ movie 10		Daizenshuu 10's Super Saiyan chart labels Broli's huge form as Type-B, with Type-A being his blue-haired form, and Type-C being his gold-haired skinny form seen in DBZ movie 10

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	The same book that details this possibility of Super Saiyan 4 being the Super Saiyan of legend — the first volume of the ''Dragon Ball GT Perfect File'' series — also posits that Goku's [[Golden Great Ape]] form may also fit the description:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Super Saiyan Evolution Chapter"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 66}}</ref>		The same book that details this possibility of Super Saiyan 4 being the Super Saiyan of legend — the first volume of the ''Dragon Ball GT Perfect File'' series — also posits that Goku's [[Golden Great Ape]] form may also fit the description:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Super Saiyan Evolution Chapter"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 66}}</ref>

	{{quotation\|~~悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟~~<br><br><hr /><br>'''Is that thing about "a single Super Saiyan every thousand years" really true?'''<br>A Super Saiyan is the "strongest of Saiyan warriors, who appears once in a thousand years"! However, after Goku's transformation, Super Saiyans appeared one after the other, as shown in the chart to the left [see below]!! Because of this, the believability of the legend seems pretty low, but actually Goten, Trunks, and co. are Earthling and Saiyan half-bloods (possessing high battle power from birth)! If you limit it to pure Saiyans, only Goku and Vegeta transform! If you think of it as "a pure Saiyan will transform once in a thousand years", then you can understand this legend!! It's also interesting that Super Saiyans are only generated from Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. If you think about it, both of their fathers (Bardock and King Vegeta) also boasted high battle power. Saiyan society had a hereditary system where things were passed on from father to son, so maybe the father's strength was also inherited?!		{{quotation\|'''「超サイヤ人は千年にひとり」ってホント！？'''<br>超サイヤ人「千年に１度現れる最強サイヤ人」のこと！だが悟空の変身以後、左の表のように次々と超サイヤ人が誕生した！！そのため伝説の信憑性は薄れたかに見えたが、じつは悟飯やトランクスは、地球人とサイヤ人の混血（生まれつき高い戦闘力を持つ）なのだ！純粋なサイヤ人に限れば変身は悟空とべジータのみ！「純粋サイヤ人の変身は千年に一度」と考えれば、この伝説も納得がいくね！！また、超サイヤ人なつとくてんせつは悟空とベジータの血縁にのみ発生している点も面白い。考えてみれば両者の父（バーダックとべジータ王）も高い戦闘力を誇っていた。サイヤの社会は子が父の跡を継ぐ世襲制だから、父の強さは遺伝するのかも！？ところで超サイヤ人伝説には「破壊と殺戮を好む」というくだりがあるが、実際はみんな理性を持っていた。だが、思い出して欲しい、悟空にも超凶暴な形態があったことを！！そう、黄金大猿に変身した時だ！！その凶暴性、破壊力、スケールの大きさなどは、まさに「破壊と殺戮を好む」という伝説と符合する！！黄金大猿形態（大猿べビーもこの形態！！）こそが真·超サイヤ人とでも言うべき存在なのかも、と考えるにともできるね！！<br><br><hr /><br>'''Is that thing about "a single Super Saiyan every thousand years" really true?'''<br>A Super Saiyan is the "strongest of Saiyan warriors, who appears once in a thousand years"! However, after Goku's transformation, Super Saiyans appeared one after the other, as shown in the chart to the left [see below]!! Because of this, the believability of the legend seems pretty low, but actually Goten, Trunks, and co. are Earthling and Saiyan half-bloods (possessing high battle power from birth)! If you limit it to pure Saiyans, only Goku and Vegeta transform! If you think of it as "a pure Saiyan will transform once in a thousand years", then you can understand this legend!! It's also interesting that Super Saiyans are only generated from Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. If you think about it, both of their fathers (Bardock and King Vegeta) also boasted high battle power. Saiyan society had a hereditary system where things were passed on from father to son, so maybe the father's strength was also inherited?!

	Incidentally, the Super Saiyan legend has a passage saying that they "love destruction and slaughter", but in actuality everyone retains their reason. However, if you'll remember, there was a form where even Goku became extremely violent!! That's right, when he transformed into a Golden Great Ape!! Surely this brutality, destructive power, and large scale are a sign of the legend that tells that they will "love destruction and slaughter"!! One can think of the Golden Great Ape form (which includes Great Ape Baby too!!) as perhaps fit to be called the true Super Saiyan!!\|Dragon Ball GT Perfect File Vol. 1}}		Incidentally, the Super Saiyan legend has a passage saying that they "love destruction and slaughter", but in actuality everyone retains their reason. However, if you'll remember, there was a form where even Goku became extremely violent!! That's right, when he transformed into a Golden Great Ape!! Surely this brutality, destructive power, and large scale are a sign of the legend that tells that they will "love destruction and slaughter"!! One can think of the Golden Great Ape form (which includes Great Ape Baby too!!) as perhaps fit to be called the true Super Saiyan!!\|Dragon Ball GT Perfect File Vol. 1}}

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	==~~Super Saiyan 4 in~~ Dragon Ball GT==		==Dragon Ball GT Transformations==

	The Super Saiyan 4 transformation in the ''[[Dragon Ball GT]]'' television series was conceptualized as something new even beyond that of [[Super Saiyan 3]], and that it "might" in fact be the Super Saiyan of legend:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Behind the Scenes Story: Q&A Section"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 42}}</ref>		The Super Saiyan 4 transformation in the ''[[Dragon Ball GT]]'' television series was conceptualized as something new even beyond that of [[Super Saiyan 3]], and that it "might" in fact be the Super Saiyan of legend:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Behind the Scenes Story: Q&A Section"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 42}}</ref>

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	Following a failed attempt at defeating Freeza with a ''[[Genki-Dama]]'', the injury of Piccolo, the death of [[Kuririn]], and the threat against [[Gohan]], Goku finally transforms, sporting golden hair standing on end.<ref name="chp317"></ref> Gohan believes this truly is a Super Saiyan, and even Freeza begins to admit this may be true;		Following a failed attempt at defeating Freeza with a ''[[Genki-Dama]]'', the injury of Piccolo, the death of [[Kuririn]], and the threat against [[Gohan]], Goku finally transforms, sporting golden hair standing on end.<ref name="chp317"></ref> Gohan believes this truly is a Super Saiyan, and even Freeza begins to admit this may be true;
	[[Dragon Ball Chapter 318\|this chapter]] is entitled "[The] Legendary Super Saiyan" (伝説の超サイヤ人 ''Densetsu no Sūpā Saiyajin'').<ref>{{Cite manga\|Chp=318}}</ref> Various manga volume and episode titles subsequently use the "Legendary Super Saiyan" phrase.<ref>{{Cite manga\|Book=tan27}}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode\|Series=Z\|Eps=95}}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode\|Series=Kai\|Eps=47}}</ref>		[[Dragon Ball Chapter 318\|this chapter]] is entitled "[The] Legendary Super Saiyan" (伝説の超サイヤ人 ''Densetsu no Sūpā Saiyajin'').<ref>{{Cite manga\|Chp=318}}</ref> Various manga volume and episode titles subsequently use the "Legendary Super Saiyan" phrase when covering or collecting this story material.<ref>{{Cite manga\|Book=tan27}}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode\|Series=Z\|Eps=95}}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode\|Series=Kai\|Eps=47}}</ref>

	Many years later, watching his son [[Trunks]] transform into a Super Saiyan as an eight-year-old, Vegeta thinks of how easily he became a legendary Super Saiyan. Confirming with Trunks that [[Son Goten\|Gohan's little brother]] is likewise able to become a Super Saiyan, Vegeta thinks this is becoming "Super Saiyan bargain sale".<ref>{{Cite manga\|Chp=429}}</ref>		Many years later, watching his son [[Trunks]] transform into a Super Saiyan as an eight-year-old, Vegeta thinks of how easily he became a legendary Super Saiyan. Confirming with Trunks that [[Son Goten\|Gohan's little brother]] is likewise able to become a Super Saiyan, Vegeta thinks this is becoming "Super Saiyan bargain sale".<ref>{{Cite manga\|Chp=429}}</ref>
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	Super Saiyan 4 designer [[Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru]] has stated that his goal with the form was to bring the [[Great Ape]] and [[Super Saiyan]] together in a version of Goku with primal power.<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Dragon Ball Back Then Vol. 3"\|Book=24\|Page=pp. 78-79}}</ref>		Super Saiyan 4 designer [[Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru]] has stated that his goal with the form was to bring the [[Great Ape]] and [[Super Saiyan]] together in a version of Goku with primal power.<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Dragon Ball Back Then Vol. 3"\|Book=24\|Page=pp. 78-79}}</ref>

	The same book — the first volume of the ''Dragon Ball GT Perfect File'' series — ~~that details this possibility of Super Saiyan 4 being the Super Saiyan of legend~~ also posits that Goku's [[Golden Great Ape]] form may also fit the description:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Super Saiyan Evolution Chapter"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 66}}</ref>		The same book that details this possibility of Super Saiyan 4 being the Super Saiyan of legend — the first volume of the ''Dragon Ball GT Perfect File'' series — also posits that Goku's [[Golden Great Ape]] form may also fit the description:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Super Saiyan Evolution Chapter"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 66}}</ref>

	{{quotation\|悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟<br><br><hr /><br>'''Is that thing about "a single Super Saiyan every thousand years" really true?'''<br>A Super Saiyan is the "strongest of Saiyan warriors, who appears once in a thousand years"! However, after Goku's transformation, Super Saiyans appeared one after the other, as shown in the chart to the left [see below]!! Because of this, the believability of the legend seems pretty low, but actually Goten, Trunks, and co. are Earthling and Saiyan half-bloods (possessing high battle power from birth)! If you limit it to pure Saiyans, only Goku and Vegeta transform! If you think of it as "a pure Saiyan will transform once in a thousand years", then you can understand this legend!! It's also interesting that Super Saiyans are only generated from Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. If you think about it, both of their fathers (Bardock and King Vegeta) also boasted high battle power. Saiyan society had a hereditary system where things were passed on from father to son, so maybe the father's strength was also inherited?!		{{quotation\|悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟<br><br><hr /><br>'''Is that thing about "a single Super Saiyan every thousand years" really true?'''<br>A Super Saiyan is the "strongest of Saiyan warriors, who appears once in a thousand years"! However, after Goku's transformation, Super Saiyans appeared one after the other, as shown in the chart to the left [see below]!! Because of this, the believability of the legend seems pretty low, but actually Goten, Trunks, and co. are Earthling and Saiyan half-bloods (possessing high battle power from birth)! If you limit it to pure Saiyans, only Goku and Vegeta transform! If you think of it as "a pure Saiyan will transform once in a thousand years", then you can understand this legend!! It's also interesting that Super Saiyans are only generated from Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. If you think about it, both of their fathers (Bardock and King Vegeta) also boasted high battle power. Saiyan society had a hereditary system where things were passed on from father to son, so maybe the father's strength was also inherited?!

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	Legendary Super Saiyan is consistently written in Japanese as 伝説の超サイヤ人 (''Densetsu no Sūpā Saiyajin'').		Legendary Super Saiyan is consistently written in Japanese as 伝説の超サイヤ人 (''Densetsu no Sūpā Saiyajin'').

	As there is no traditional capitalization in Japanese, 伝説の超サイヤ人 may be rendered both as "Legendary Super Saiyan" as a formal, proper-noun title and/or also as "[the] legendary Super Saiyan" as more of a descriptor. The interpretation is often left up to contextual understanding of the information otherwise being provided, and is often used both ways in the same material.		As there is no traditional capitalization in Japanese, 伝説の超サイヤ人 may be rendered both as "Legendary Super Saiyan" as a formal, proper-noun title and/or also as "[a/the] legendary Super Saiyan" as more of a descriptor. The interpretation is often left up to contextual understanding of the information otherwise being provided, and is often used both ways in the same material.

	==Son Goku and the Original Serialization==		==Son Goku and the Original Serialization==
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	The idea of a "Super Saiyan" is first referenced in [[Dragon Ball Chapter 204\|chapter 204]], with [[Vegeta]] and [[Nappa]] discussing the strength exhibited by [[Son Gohan\|a Saiyan/human hybrid]]. Nappa refers to this as a "Super Saiyan" (at the time with "super" written out as スーパー rather than the later 超 with ''furigana'' indicating the English "super" pronunciation).<ref>{{Cite manga\|Chp=204}}</ref> Vegeta makes little reaction to this phrase other than dismissing the idea of producing beings stronger than themselves; this is likely due to original author [[Akira Toriyama]] not having conceived in full the idea of a "Super Saiyan" as the audience would later know it. "Super Saiyan" as a phrase in this context is reused in the title of the ''Dragon Ball Z'' television series' [[Dragon Ball Z Episode 35\|thirty-fifth episode]].<ref>{{Cite episode\|Series=Z\|Eps=35}}</ref>		The idea of a "Super Saiyan" is first referenced in [[Dragon Ball Chapter 204\|chapter 204]], with [[Vegeta]] and [[Nappa]] discussing the strength exhibited by [[Son Gohan\|a Saiyan/human hybrid]]. Nappa refers to this as a "Super Saiyan" (at the time with "super" written out as スーパー rather than the later 超 with ''furigana'' indicating the English "super" pronunciation).<ref>{{Cite manga\|Chp=204}}</ref> Vegeta makes little reaction to this phrase other than dismissing the idea of producing beings stronger than themselves; this is likely due to original author [[Akira Toriyama]] not having conceived in full the idea of a "Super Saiyan" as the audience would later know it. "Super Saiyan" as a phrase in this context is reused in the title of the ''Dragon Ball Z'' television series' [[Dragon Ball Z Episode 35\|thirty-fifth episode]].<ref>{{Cite episode\|Series=Z\|Eps=35}}</ref>

	The possibility of a character becoming a "[[Super Saiyan]]" of legend is first introduced in [[Dragon Ball Chapter 280\|chapter 280]], with Vegeta watching [[Goku]]'s incredible growth and overpowering of the [[Ginyu Special Force]], all the meanwhile reflecting on what he believed to just have been a legend of a "Super Saiyan" appearing once ~~ever~~ one thousand years<ref name="chp280"></ref>:		The possibility of a character becoming a "[[Super Saiyan]]" of legend is first introduced in [[Dragon Ball Chapter 280\|chapter 280]], with Vegeta watching [[Goku]]'s incredible growth and overpowering of the [[Ginyu Special Force]], all the meanwhile reflecting on what he believed to just have been a legend of a "Super Saiyan" appearing once every one thousand years<ref name="chp280"></ref>:

	{{quotation\|ま…まさか…い…いや…そんなことはありえない…… あ…あんなヤロウが…下級戦士のカカロットが……… で…伝説の超サイヤ人になどな…なれるわけはない………!!<br><br>ス…超サイヤ人は一千年にひとりあらわれる…ど…どんな天才戦士も超えられない壁を超えてしまうサイヤ人…そ…そんな…あ…あれはただのくだらないいい伝えのはずだ…… も…もし伝説が本当だったとしても超サイヤ人になれる可能性があるのは…このオレだけだ<br><br>...<br><br>い…いまのはただの攻撃じゃない…… オ…オレの目はだまされんぞ… と…とてつもなく重い一発だ… ……… サ…サイヤ人の一戦闘レベルをあきらかにこ…超えている……… ……あいつ…いったいどんな訓練をしやがったんだ……… ち…地球で戦ったあ…あいつとはまるで別人だ……… で…伝説は本当だったのか………！？超サイヤ人なのか…！？<br><br><hr /><br>Could it be...? N-No... Such a thing is impossible... T-That bastard low-class warrior Kakarrot... c-couldn't have become a legendary Super Saiyan...!!<br><br>A Super Saiyan appears once every thousand years... Any fighting genius Saiyan who overcomes the unsurpassable wall... But, that's just supposed to be a stupid legend... E-Even if the legend was true, the only one who should be able to become a Super Saiyan is me.<br><br>...<br><br>T-That was no ordinary attack... M-My eyes weren't deceived... T-That was an absurdly severe strike... H-He's evidently overcome a Saiyan's fighting level... H-He's a completely different person than I fought on Earth... What the Hell kind of practice has he had... W-Was the legend true...?! Is he really a Super Saiyan...?!\|Vegeta, [[Dragon Ball Chapter 280\|chapter 280]]}}		{{quotation\|ま…まさか…い…いや…そんなことはありえない…… あ…あんなヤロウが…下級戦士のカカロットが……… で…伝説の超サイヤ人になどな…なれるわけはない………!!<br><br>ス…超サイヤ人は一千年にひとりあらわれる…ど…どんな天才戦士も超えられない壁を超えてしまうサイヤ人…そ…そんな…あ…あれはただのくだらないいい伝えのはずだ…… も…もし伝説が本当だったとしても超サイヤ人になれる可能性があるのは…このオレだけだ<br><br>...<br><br>い…いまのはただの攻撃じゃない…… オ…オレの目はだまされんぞ… と…とてつもなく重い一発だ… ……… サ…サイヤ人の一戦闘レベルをあきらかにこ…超えている……… ……あいつ…いったいどんな訓練をしやがったんだ……… ち…地球で戦ったあ…あいつとはまるで別人だ……… で…伝説は本当だったのか………！？超サイヤ人なのか…！？<br><br><hr /><br>Could it be...? N-No... Such a thing is impossible... T-That bastard low-class warrior Kakarrot... c-couldn't have become a legendary Super Saiyan...!!<br><br>A Super Saiyan appears once every thousand years... Any fighting genius Saiyan who overcomes the unsurpassable wall... But, that's just supposed to be a stupid legend... E-Even if the legend was true, the only one who should be able to become a Super Saiyan is me.<br><br>...<br><br>T-That was no ordinary attack... M-My eyes weren't deceived... T-That was an absurdly severe strike... H-He's evidently overcome a Saiyan's fighting level... H-He's a completely different person than I fought on Earth... What the Hell kind of practice has he had... W-Was the legend true...?! Is he really a Super Saiyan...?!\|Vegeta, [[Dragon Ball Chapter 280\|chapter 280]]}}

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	{{quotation\|悟空の潜在能力のさらなる解放としての変身は当初から考えられていた。また、サイヤとツフルのパワーが融合した最強の敵べビーとの最終決戦には、超サイヤ人3をしのぐ戦士も必要だった！！そのためスタッフは「4を登場させるしかない」との結論に至ったのだ！！ちなみに超サイヤ人4こそが「1000年にひとりの伝説の超サイヤ人かも」というコンセプトでデザインされた！だから4は従来の金色ではなく、赤いボディの戦士になったのだ！<br><br><hr /><br>It was decided from the beginning that there would be a transformation which further unlocks Goku's dormant abilities. Also, in the final decisive battle against Baby, the ultimately strong enemy who fused Saiya and Tsufru power, a warrior that exceeded Super Saiyan 3 was needed!! Thus, the staff reached the conclusion of "we have to make 4 appear"!! Incidentally, it was designed with the concept that Super Saiyan 4 "might be the legendary Super Saiyan who appears once every 1,000 years"! This is why 4 was not the traditional gold color, and became a warrior with a red body!!\|Dragon Ball GT Perfect File Vol. 1}}		{{quotation\|悟空の潜在能力のさらなる解放としての変身は当初から考えられていた。また、サイヤとツフルのパワーが融合した最強の敵べビーとの最終決戦には、超サイヤ人3をしのぐ戦士も必要だった！！そのためスタッフは「4を登場させるしかない」との結論に至ったのだ！！ちなみに超サイヤ人4こそが「1000年にひとりの伝説の超サイヤ人かも」というコンセプトでデザインされた！だから4は従来の金色ではなく、赤いボディの戦士になったのだ！<br><br><hr /><br>It was decided from the beginning that there would be a transformation which further unlocks Goku's dormant abilities. Also, in the final decisive battle against Baby, the ultimately strong enemy who fused Saiya and Tsufru power, a warrior that exceeded Super Saiyan 3 was needed!! Thus, the staff reached the conclusion of "we have to make 4 appear"!! Incidentally, it was designed with the concept that Super Saiyan 4 "might be the legendary Super Saiyan who appears once every 1,000 years"! This is why 4 was not the traditional gold color, and became a warrior with a red body!!\|Dragon Ball GT Perfect File Vol. 1}}
	Super Saiyan 4 designer [[Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru]] has stated that his goal with the form was to bring the [[Great Ape]] and [[Super Saiyan]] together in a version of Goku with primal power.<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Dragon Ball Back Then Vol. 3"\|Book=24\|Page=pp. 78-79}}</ref>		Super Saiyan 4 designer [[Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru]] has stated that his goal with the form was to bring the [[Great Ape]] and [[Super Saiyan]] together in a version of Goku with primal power.<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Dragon Ball Back Then Vol. 3"\|Book=24\|Page=pp. 78-79}}</ref>

			The same book — the first volume of the ''Dragon Ball GT Perfect File'' series — that details this possibility of Super Saiyan 4 being the Super Saiyan of legend also posits that Goku's [[Golden Great Ape]] form may also fit the description:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Super Saiyan Evolution Chapter"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 66}}</ref>

			{{quotation\|悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟<br><br><hr /><br>'''Is that thing about "a single Super Saiyan every thousand years" really true?'''<br>A Super Saiyan is the "strongest of Saiyan warriors, who appears once in a thousand years"! However, after Goku's transformation, Super Saiyans appeared one after the other, as shown in the chart to the left [see below]!! Because of this, the believability of the legend seems pretty low, but actually Goten, Trunks, and co. are Earthling and Saiyan half-bloods (possessing high battle power from birth)! If you limit it to pure Saiyans, only Goku and Vegeta transform! If you think of it as "a pure Saiyan will transform once in a thousand years", then you can understand this legend!! It's also interesting that Super Saiyans are only generated from Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. If you think about it, both of their fathers (Bardock and King Vegeta) also boasted high battle power. Saiyan society had a hereditary system where things were passed on from father to son, so maybe the father's strength was also inherited?!

			Incidentally, the Super Saiyan legend has a passage saying that they "love destruction and slaughter", but in actuality everyone retains their reason. However, if you'll remember, there was a form where even Goku became extremely violent!! That's right, when he transformed into a Golden Great Ape!! Surely this brutality, destructive power, and large scale are a sign of the legend that tells that they will "love destruction and slaughter"!! One can think of the Golden Great Ape form (which includes Great Ape Baby too!!) as perhaps fit to be called the true Super Saiyan!!\|Dragon Ball GT Perfect File Vol. 1}}

	==Bardock ("What If?" Story)==		==Bardock ("What If?" Story)==

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	The same book that details this possibility of Super Saiyan 4 being the Super Saiyan of legend — the first volume of the ''Dragon Ball GT Perfect File'' series — also posits that Goku's [[Golden Great Ape]] form may also fit the description:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Super Saiyan Evolution Chapter"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 66}}</ref>		The same book that details this possibility of Super Saiyan 4 being the Super Saiyan of legend — the first volume of the ''Dragon Ball GT Perfect File'' series — also posits that Goku's [[Golden Great Ape]] form may also fit the description:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Super Saiyan Evolution Chapter"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 66}}</ref>

	{{quotation\|~~悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟~~<br><br><hr /><br>'''Is that thing about "a single Super Saiyan every thousand years" really true?'''<br>A Super Saiyan is the "strongest of Saiyan warriors, who appears once in a thousand years"! However, after Goku's transformation, Super Saiyans appeared one after the other, as shown in the chart to the left [see below]!! Because of this, the believability of the legend seems pretty low, but actually Goten, Trunks, and co. are Earthling and Saiyan half-bloods (possessing high battle power from birth)! If you limit it to pure Saiyans, only Goku and Vegeta transform! If you think of it as "a pure Saiyan will transform once in a thousand years", then you can understand this legend!! It's also interesting that Super Saiyans are only generated from Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. If you think about it, both of their fathers (Bardock and King Vegeta) also boasted high battle power. Saiyan society had a hereditary system where things were passed on from father to son, so maybe the father's strength was also inherited?!		{{quotation\|'''「超サイヤ人は千年にひとり」ってホント！？'''<br>超サイヤ人「千年に１度現れる最強サイヤ人」のこと！だが悟空の変身以後、左の表のように次々と超サイヤ人が誕生した！！そのため伝説の信憑性は薄れたかに見えたが、じつは悟飯やトランクスは、地球人とサイヤ人の混血（生まれつき高い戦闘力を持つ）なのだ！純粋なサイヤ人に限れば変身は悟空とべジータのみ！「純粋サイヤ人の変身は千年に一度」と考えれば、この伝説も納得がいくね！！また、超サイヤ人なつとくてんせつは悟空とベジータの血縁にのみ発生している点も面白い。考えてみれば両者の父（バーダックとべジータ王）も高い戦闘力を誇っていた。サイヤの社会は子が父の跡を継ぐ世襲制だから、父の強さは遺伝するのかも！？ところで超サイヤ人伝説には「破壊と殺戮を好む」というくだりがあるが、実際はみんな理性を持っていた。だが、思い出して欲しい、悟空にも超凶暴な形態があったことを！！そう、黄金大猿に変身した時だ！！その凶暴性、破壊力、スケールの大きさなどは、まさに「破壊と殺戮を好む」という伝説と符合する！！黄金大猿形態（大猿べビーもこの形態！！）こそが真·超サイヤ人とでも言うべき存在なのかも、と考えるにともできるね！！<br><br><hr /><br>'''Is that thing about "a single Super Saiyan every thousand years" really true?'''<br>A Super Saiyan is the "strongest of Saiyan warriors, who appears once in a thousand years"! However, after Goku's transformation, Super Saiyans appeared one after the other, as shown in the chart to the left [see below]!! Because of this, the believability of the legend seems pretty low, but actually Goten, Trunks, and co. are Earthling and Saiyan half-bloods (possessing high battle power from birth)! If you limit it to pure Saiyans, only Goku and Vegeta transform! If you think of it as "a pure Saiyan will transform once in a thousand years", then you can understand this legend!! It's also interesting that Super Saiyans are only generated from Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. If you think about it, both of their fathers (Bardock and King Vegeta) also boasted high battle power. Saiyan society had a hereditary system where things were passed on from father to son, so maybe the father's strength was also inherited?!

	Incidentally, the Super Saiyan legend has a passage saying that they "love destruction and slaughter", but in actuality everyone retains their reason. However, if you'll remember, there was a form where even Goku became extremely violent!! That's right, when he transformed into a Golden Great Ape!! Surely this brutality, destructive power, and large scale are a sign of the legend that tells that they will "love destruction and slaughter"!! One can think of the Golden Great Ape form (which includes Great Ape Baby too!!) as perhaps fit to be called the true Super Saiyan!!\|Dragon Ball GT Perfect File Vol. 1}}		Incidentally, the Super Saiyan legend has a passage saying that they "love destruction and slaughter", but in actuality everyone retains their reason. However, if you'll remember, there was a form where even Goku became extremely violent!! That's right, when he transformed into a Golden Great Ape!! Surely this brutality, destructive power, and large scale are a sign of the legend that tells that they will "love destruction and slaughter"!! One can think of the Golden Great Ape form (which includes Great Ape Baby too!!) as perhaps fit to be called the true Super Saiyan!!\|Dragon Ball GT Perfect File Vol. 1}}

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	Following a failed attempt at defeating Freeza with a ''[[Genki-Dama]]'', the injury of Piccolo, the death of [[Kuririn]], and the threat against [[Gohan]], Goku finally transforms, sporting golden hair standing on end.<ref name="chp317"></ref> Gohan believes this truly is a Super Saiyan, and even Freeza begins to admit this may be true;		Following a failed attempt at defeating Freeza with a ''[[Genki-Dama]]'', the injury of Piccolo, the death of [[Kuririn]], and the threat against [[Gohan]], Goku finally transforms, sporting golden hair standing on end.<ref name="chp317"></ref> Gohan believes this truly is a Super Saiyan, and even Freeza begins to admit this may be true;
	[[Dragon Ball Chapter 318\|this chapter]] is entitled "[The] Legendary Super Saiyan" (伝説の超サイヤ人 ''Densetsu no Sūpā Saiyajin'').<ref>{{Cite manga\|Chp=318}}</ref> Various manga volume and episode titles subsequently use the "Legendary Super Saiyan" phrase.<ref>{{Cite manga\|Book=tan27}}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode\|Series=Z\|Eps=95}}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode\|Series=Kai\|Eps=47}}</ref>		[[Dragon Ball Chapter 318\|this chapter]] is entitled "[The] Legendary Super Saiyan" (伝説の超サイヤ人 ''Densetsu no Sūpā Saiyajin'').<ref>{{Cite manga\|Chp=318}}</ref> Various manga volume and episode titles subsequently use the "Legendary Super Saiyan" phrase when covering or collecting this story material.<ref>{{Cite manga\|Book=tan27}}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode\|Series=Z\|Eps=95}}</ref><ref>{{Cite episode\|Series=Kai\|Eps=47}}</ref>

	Many years later, watching his son [[Trunks]] transform into a Super Saiyan as an eight-year-old, Vegeta thinks of how easily he became a legendary Super Saiyan. Confirming with Trunks that [[Son Goten\|Gohan's little brother]] is likewise able to become a Super Saiyan, Vegeta thinks this is becoming "Super Saiyan bargain sale".<ref>{{Cite manga\|Chp=429}}</ref>		Many years later, watching his son [[Trunks]] transform into a Super Saiyan as an eight-year-old, Vegeta thinks of how easily he became a legendary Super Saiyan. Confirming with Trunks that [[Son Goten\|Gohan's little brother]] is likewise able to become a Super Saiyan, Vegeta thinks this is becoming "Super Saiyan bargain sale".<ref>{{Cite manga\|Chp=429}}</ref>
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	Super Saiyan 4 designer [[Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru]] has stated that his goal with the form was to bring the [[Great Ape]] and [[Super Saiyan]] together in a version of Goku with primal power.<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Dragon Ball Back Then Vol. 3"\|Book=24\|Page=pp. 78-79}}</ref>		Super Saiyan 4 designer [[Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru]] has stated that his goal with the form was to bring the [[Great Ape]] and [[Super Saiyan]] together in a version of Goku with primal power.<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Dragon Ball Back Then Vol. 3"\|Book=24\|Page=pp. 78-79}}</ref>

	The same book — the first volume of the ''Dragon Ball GT Perfect File'' series — ~~that details this possibility of Super Saiyan 4 being the Super Saiyan of legend~~ also posits that Goku's [[Golden Great Ape]] form may also fit the description:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Super Saiyan Evolution Chapter"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 66}}</ref>		The same book that details this possibility of Super Saiyan 4 being the Super Saiyan of legend — the first volume of the ''Dragon Ball GT Perfect File'' series — also posits that Goku's [[Golden Great Ape]] form may also fit the description:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Super Saiyan Evolution Chapter"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 66}}</ref>

	{{quotation\|悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟<br><br><hr /><br>'''Is that thing about "a single Super Saiyan every thousand years" really true?'''<br>A Super Saiyan is the "strongest of Saiyan warriors, who appears once in a thousand years"! However, after Goku's transformation, Super Saiyans appeared one after the other, as shown in the chart to the left [see below]!! Because of this, the believability of the legend seems pretty low, but actually Goten, Trunks, and co. are Earthling and Saiyan half-bloods (possessing high battle power from birth)! If you limit it to pure Saiyans, only Goku and Vegeta transform! If you think of it as "a pure Saiyan will transform once in a thousand years", then you can understand this legend!! It's also interesting that Super Saiyans are only generated from Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. If you think about it, both of their fathers (Bardock and King Vegeta) also boasted high battle power. Saiyan society had a hereditary system where things were passed on from father to son, so maybe the father's strength was also inherited?!		{{quotation\|悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟<br><br><hr /><br>'''Is that thing about "a single Super Saiyan every thousand years" really true?'''<br>A Super Saiyan is the "strongest of Saiyan warriors, who appears once in a thousand years"! However, after Goku's transformation, Super Saiyans appeared one after the other, as shown in the chart to the left [see below]!! Because of this, the believability of the legend seems pretty low, but actually Goten, Trunks, and co. are Earthling and Saiyan half-bloods (possessing high battle power from birth)! If you limit it to pure Saiyans, only Goku and Vegeta transform! If you think of it as "a pure Saiyan will transform once in a thousand years", then you can understand this legend!! It's also interesting that Super Saiyans are only generated from Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. If you think about it, both of their fathers (Bardock and King Vegeta) also boasted high battle power. Saiyan society had a hereditary system where things were passed on from father to son, so maybe the father's strength was also inherited?!

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	{{quotation\|悟空の潜在能力のさらなる解放としての変身は当初から考えられていた。また、サイヤとツフルのパワーが融合した最強の敵べビーとの最終決戦には、超サイヤ人3をしのぐ戦士も必要だった！！そのためスタッフは「4を登場させるしかない」との結論に至ったのだ！！ちなみに超サイヤ人4こそが「1000年にひとりの伝説の超サイヤ人かも」というコンセプトでデザインされた！だから4は従来の金色ではなく、赤いボディの戦士になったのだ！<br><br><hr /><br>It was decided from the beginning that there would be a transformation which further unlocks Goku's dormant abilities. Also, in the final decisive battle against Baby, the ultimately strong enemy who fused Saiya and Tsufru power, a warrior that exceeded Super Saiyan 3 was needed!! Thus, the staff reached the conclusion of "we have to make 4 appear"!! Incidentally, it was designed with the concept that Super Saiyan 4 "might be the legendary Super Saiyan who appears once every 1,000 years"! This is why 4 was not the traditional gold color, and became a warrior with a red body!!\|Dragon Ball GT Perfect File Vol. 1}}		{{quotation\|悟空の潜在能力のさらなる解放としての変身は当初から考えられていた。また、サイヤとツフルのパワーが融合した最強の敵べビーとの最終決戦には、超サイヤ人3をしのぐ戦士も必要だった！！そのためスタッフは「4を登場させるしかない」との結論に至ったのだ！！ちなみに超サイヤ人4こそが「1000年にひとりの伝説の超サイヤ人かも」というコンセプトでデザインされた！だから4は従来の金色ではなく、赤いボディの戦士になったのだ！<br><br><hr /><br>It was decided from the beginning that there would be a transformation which further unlocks Goku's dormant abilities. Also, in the final decisive battle against Baby, the ultimately strong enemy who fused Saiya and Tsufru power, a warrior that exceeded Super Saiyan 3 was needed!! Thus, the staff reached the conclusion of "we have to make 4 appear"!! Incidentally, it was designed with the concept that Super Saiyan 4 "might be the legendary Super Saiyan who appears once every 1,000 years"! This is why 4 was not the traditional gold color, and became a warrior with a red body!!\|Dragon Ball GT Perfect File Vol. 1}}
	Super Saiyan 4 designer [[Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru]] has stated that his goal with the form was to bring the [[Great Ape]] and [[Super Saiyan]] together in a version of Goku with primal power.<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Dragon Ball Back Then Vol. 3"\|Book=24\|Page=pp. 78-79}}</ref>		Super Saiyan 4 designer [[Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru]] has stated that his goal with the form was to bring the [[Great Ape]] and [[Super Saiyan]] together in a version of Goku with primal power.<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Dragon Ball Back Then Vol. 3"\|Book=24\|Page=pp. 78-79}}</ref>

			The same book — the first volume of the ''Dragon Ball GT Perfect File'' series — that details this possibility of Super Saiyan 4 being the Super Saiyan of legend also posits that Goku's [[Golden Great Ape]] form may also fit the description:<ref>{{Cite guidebook\|Title="Super Saiyan Evolution Chapter"\|Book=16\|Page=p. 66}}</ref>

			{{quotation\|悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟悟<br><br><hr /><br>'''Is that thing about "a single Super Saiyan every thousand years" really true?'''<br>A Super Saiyan is the "strongest of Saiyan warriors, who appears once in a thousand years"! However, after Goku's transformation, Super Saiyans appeared one after the other, as shown in the chart to the left [see below]!! Because of this, the believability of the legend seems pretty low, but actually Goten, Trunks, and co. are Earthling and Saiyan half-bloods (possessing high battle power from birth)! If you limit it to pure Saiyans, only Goku and Vegeta transform! If you think of it as "a pure Saiyan will transform once in a thousand years", then you can understand this legend!! It's also interesting that Super Saiyans are only generated from Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. If you think about it, both of their fathers (Bardock and King Vegeta) also boasted high battle power. Saiyan society had a hereditary system where things were passed on from father to son, so maybe the father's strength was also inherited?!

			Incidentally, the Super Saiyan legend has a passage saying that they "love destruction and slaughter", but in actuality everyone retains their reason. However, if you'll remember, there was a form where even Goku became extremely violent!! That's right, when he transformed into a Golden Great Ape!! Surely this brutality, destructive power, and large scale are a sign of the legend that tells that they will "love destruction and slaughter"!! One can think of the Golden Great Ape form (which includes Great Ape Baby too!!) as perhaps fit to be called the true Super Saiyan!!\|Dragon Ball GT Perfect File Vol. 1}}

	==Bardock ("What If?" Story)==		==Bardock ("What If?" Story)==