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by Zantetsuken
Mon Dec 23, 2013 10:13 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

The whole "help" part makes no sense, anyway. Goku couldn't fight anymore and Vegeta wasn't any better. It would've been Gohan and Gotenks against Kid Boo. As for the "suppressing Super Saiyan 3", it's true that he can't. What Goku did was not fight all-out against Boo earlier. ...
by Zantetsuken
Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:56 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Except as we've pointed out, it's not "help fight" it's just fight, as in fight in his place. Viz says help fight, but the original manga suggests otherwise. I'm also saying that the overkill situation is just one of the possible reasons as to have both come up, and that the other is just...
by Zantetsuken
Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

So you're basing your argument off of an assumption? Is it? I'm not creating comeplete scenarios - I'm just restating exactly what has happened in the story. Nothing I said was "an assumption" It's pretty blatant. Your friends in here are completely trying to rewrite the manga with commen...
by Zantetsuken
Mon Dec 23, 2013 8:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Vegeta gave his whole reason for why he didn't want to have the boys come up. If it were due to them not being strong enough to get the job done on their own, don't you think he would have said so? He's the last person to ever spare anyone's feelings when it comes to their strength or lack thereof,...
by Zantetsuken
Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:57 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

So as I see the timeline Goku and Vegeta escape Buu Buu powers up to a form stronger than Superbuu (but weaker than Buutenks and GohanBuu) "Isn't he getting stronger instead?" "This Buu has lost his heart in which he gained, he's no longer weakened" (why mention this if it isn't ...
by Zantetsuken
Mon Dec 23, 2013 7:14 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

The whole reason people double team someone in the first place is so they can stack the odds in their favor. With the theories around here regarding Gotenks SSJ/Base being stronger than Goku and Vegeta (essentially meaning he's on Par with Gogeta, if the Fusion Reborn is any indicator) then WHY woul...
by Zantetsuken
Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: SPC vs SSjin 2 Kid Gohan Argument
Replies: 105
Views: 12627

Re: SPC vs SSjin 2 Kid Gohan Argument

Gohan had a rage boost that transformed him into a SSJ2, but other than that, there wasn't any extra rage boost as far as I understand it. He was at half his power when he defeated Cell, and he did that by attacking him with an ultra-concentrated attack while he was off-guard and not even trying to...
by Zantetsuken
Mon Dec 23, 2013 1:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Fair enough, I can't read Japanese so I'll take your word for it. I will say the line in question relays the same information - Gotenks AND Gohan were though of as both coming to fight instead of either/or. To be compeletly honest, I used to believe maybe I was wrong, but I am absolutely positive I'...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:40 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: If you were a billionaire (DB related)
Replies: 56
Views: 7983

Re: If you were a billionaire (DB related)

Redo the series from Dragonball to the end of Z and actually impliment some of the movies actually in the story and cut out some of the filler. I LOVE the Funimation music and the US voice acting, so that would stay and I would have to get some input into the Japanses side of things. I'd make it mor...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

TheGmGoken wrote:I think Herms or SaiyaJedi said it. Also please tell me you aren't serious bout Goku being maximum
Absolutely serious.
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Your translated copy? What source is it? Viz? Illegal manga sites? Viz. If I'm correct. Viz is only 70% Translated correctly. You're probably not right, and I'm not saying that to be rude. But what are you basing this on? Where did you get the an arbitrary number like 70% from? Even the scanslation...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:17 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

TheGmGoken wrote:Your translated copy? What source is it?
Viz?
Illegal manga sites?
Viz.
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Stop using the anime. I'm talking about the MANGA. The anime contradict the manga A LOT of times. Goku stated that Super Boo can kick his ass before Boo told him that size decrease his Ki. Yet Gohan and Gotenks beat Super Boo. I'm using the anime to suppliment what is said in the manga, not contrad...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:15 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

The anime means nothing. Vegeta's comments do not, and Goku never says anything about Gohan and Gotenks "helping". He simply says that the most rational decision, or at least the one he thought Vegeta was going for, was to bring his sons back, so they can fight . Neither Vegeta nor Goku d...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 10:03 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Stop using the anime. I'm talking about the MANGA. The anime contradict the manga A LOT of times. Goku stated that Super Boo can kick his ass before Boo told him that size decrease his Ki. Yet Gohan and Gotenks beat Super Boo. I'm using the anime to suppliment what is said in the manga, not contrad...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated
Replies: 77
Views: 8086

Re: Movie 8 Broli Is Overrated

I'm a Broly fan- such power, so maximum. Wow.
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:41 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Later retconned into Goku admitting he was more powerful than he let on. Funny. You keep throwing that around, but Goku never contradicted his previous statement that Super Buu would kick his ass, and reinforces it several times. Except I did^ the post right above yours. The anime supports this, Ve...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:38 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Goku is the strongest period. What are you trying to argue - They made Goku stronger for JUST this and every other movie, and the End of Z...and for the Buu Saga. So even when Goku said someone is stronger than himself while other character whoop the character(That Goku said was stronge) ass. Goku ...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:33 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40161

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

How does that implies? They was obviouly talking about Ssj forms. Mystic is not a form. Like I said - if Gohan was the benchmark, they would have stated it. But to have something more powerful than a Sayjin at SSJ3? That's incredible. Goku is the only non fusion SSJ3 and is the main character. They...