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by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 9:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

When did that happen, anyway? I don't remember that at all. As far as I know, it happens twice: The anime changes Kaiosin's quote, adding "strongest" on top of the quote that originally only called Pure Buu the most dangerous. Goku states that Pure Buu is on a "whole different level ...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:39 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

TheGmGoken wrote:How does that implies? They was obviouly talking about Ssj forms. Mystic is not a form.
Like I said - if Gohan was the benchmark, they would have stated it. But to have something more powerful than a Sayjin at SSJ3? That's incredible.
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:30 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Don't use your opinion and fan theories as a source, it's less credible than the dub ( which I like ). That said, in the manga, Gotenksbuu does try to destroy the world until Goku stops him (I mistakenly said GohanBuu - whatever :crazy: ) And GohanBuu attempts to do the same after he absorbs Vegett...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 8:25 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

The grand Kai also insisted on fusion in beating Purebuu - and in the anime the call him the strongest of Buus many times. 8) Even disregarding what's said in the anime, the fact still remains that Goku's insistence on fusing to defeat Evil Buu takes into account the impossibility of using it insid...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 7:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

The lack of Dai Kaioshin's influence. Last I checked, his power was stated to be going up when he entered a Kaioshin related form. Boo's absorption of the other Kaioshin neither calmed him down or made him weaker. It's stated that Dai Kaioshin was the one who had a noticeable effect on Boo. Why mak...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:34 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

"When I participated in the meetings, there was already talk of, “we’d like to come out with a being surpassing Super Saiyan 3. It would be a Super Saiyan God”. — Yūsuke Watanabe, GetNavi May 2013 Issue (read full interview--> http://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/getnavi-may-2013-the-top-notc...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:28 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

The grand Kai also insisted on fusion in beating Purebuu - and in the anime the call him the strongest of Buus many times. 8) Ignoring that the anime is meaningless, you do know that that would make him stronger than Buuhan, right? And probably stronger than Super Vegetto as well? When did that hap...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:27 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Again, this doesn't explain Goku's excitment to fight someone new and strong. We don't know if Gohan's been training or not - but you are Assuming (a big stretch at this point) that Goku doesn't want to fight someone that strong? Come on. A big stretch? Maybe Goku wants to fight someone who actuall...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:21 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

TheGmGoken wrote: If it wasn't obvious then people would't debate it now would they. :thumbup: .
It is quite obvious in the anime. They state it several times.
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:20 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

And Goku doesn't feel it'd be fair to use fusion against Kid Boo because he's "no longer merged" and fighting with his own power. So, Goku thinks it's more fair to fight one of the strongest forms of Boo without Potara, but would rather not chance fighting the weaker Super Boo without fus...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 6:16 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

The grand Kai also insisted on fusion in beating Purebuu - and in the anime the call him the strongest of Buus many times. 8) I don't think we should use the anime. Seeing as the anime allowed Dead people in hell to keep their bodies Well, he was trying to make a point, but the anime is very blanta...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:53 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Don't worry Herms I understood the note completely. I just thought the note was about Vegeta only. Not Goku and Vegeta. 1. We don't know that Goku didn't understand that - I'm under the impression that he didn't know exactly how small they were (until Buu told them, which is why that information wa...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 5:46 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

1. We don't know that Goku didn't understand that - I'm under the impression that he didn't know exactly how small they were (until Buu told them, which is why that information was stated for the reader) Goku doesn't know that size would caused them to lose power though. Not how small they were. He...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:45 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Official Unofficial Power Level Discussion Thread
Replies: 12596
Views: 1663642

Re: The Official Unofficial Power Levels Thread

Kakashi wrote:The Daiz says Gohan got weaker and there are many wrong things in your list
For once, we agree.
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:44 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Don't worry Herms I understood the note completely. I just thought the note was about Vegeta only. Not Goku and Vegeta. 1. We don't know that Goku didn't understand that - I'm under the impression that he didn't know exactly how small they were (until Buu told them, which is why that information wa...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 4:32 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P3.4-6 Context: after Boo reverts to his pure form Vegeta: “……Heh…Heheheh…Look! He’s shrunk down quite a bit!” Goku: “We did it! This way, we might be able to manage something.” Note: "He’s shrunk" is chidzimu, which typically refers to physical shrinking (like wit...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 3:31 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Every time we get something new, it either hints at Goku being stronger or does nothing. These days, the old Buu debates almost feel like debates between whether things are how Toriyama and folks decided to make it in the end, or whether things are how many people wish they had chosen to make it in...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 2:20 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

I've addressed all of this about 2 post above. Did you read it? (I have to say I'm doubtful considering you posting things already covered)
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:59 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

My fan theory? It's not a theory. It's fact. It's not even my opinion cause I would want Goku and Vegeta to be the strongest cause it makes sense from a plot point of view. Goku CLEARLY states that he can't beat Super Boo. Gohan BEATS Super Boo Gotenks was kicking Boo's ass. Vegetto is clearly stro...
by Zantetsuken
Sun Dec 22, 2013 1:42 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".
Replies: 358
Views: 40156

Re: "Gotenks surpassing Vegeta and the others".

Did you even read the thread? According to Herms post above, the Diazen states things that are very obvious and this includes Gotenks being stronger than Vegeta AFTER training. Goku specifically isn't mentioned (I also believe than Gohan's Bio says he's stronger than Gotenks, but Goku again isn't m...