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by dragon boss z
Thu May 23, 2024 12:25 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37492
Views: 3532882

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

- Dragon Books (Text boxes with big 5 and 6 on them): "Even stronger foes, the Artificial Humans, appear[...]" The other one would be the El Manga Legendario. I remember a text making a comparison to Super Saiyans next to a picture of all the androids, but I couldn't find it so take this ...
by dragon boss z
Sun May 12, 2024 11:07 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37492
Views: 3532882

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

A couple guidebooks say all androids > Freeza Super Perfect Cell one shots. SSJ Goku vs FP Cell would be a much better fight, but SPC is SSJ2 tier. -Do you have the sources for those guidebook statements? -Do you not believe Gohan killed Cell at half power? If he did, and if ssj is a 2x multiplier ...
by dragon boss z
Fri May 10, 2024 11:48 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37492
Views: 3532882

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1. Krillin performed better against a stronger Goku in the 22nd Tournament compared to Tao in the RR Army arc. Goku was also impressed with Krillin's power despite holding back, but keep in mind that Goku didn't take Tao seriously after his power up from Korin's training. Yamcha is pretty much equa...
by dragon boss z
Thu May 09, 2024 9:22 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37492
Views: 3532882

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Tao vs 22nd Krillin/Yamcha/Chiaotzu (not together 1v1 against each) Tao vs Chichi (does she really have a power level of 130 like shonen jump says?) Korin vs 22nd Goku (shonen jump says his power level is 190, did Goku get a zenkai and surpass Korin after Tambourine fight or is the number wrong?) Ol...
by dragon boss z
Tue May 07, 2024 7:12 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Yo Son Goku and Friends Return statement
Replies: 1
Views: 173

Yo Son Goku and Friends Return statement

I have a question about the Yo Son Goku and his friends return special. When talking about Abo and Cado, when it is revealed they are Frieza level, the subs I always see has Goku say "perfect for the kids". In the manga version I see "the kids will be fine." Neither translation i...
by dragon boss z
Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:18 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Japanese Kai question
Replies: 12
Views: 1334

Re: Japanese Kai question

Has anyone here watched it? Oh boy this makes me feel old. That version you're considering so obscure you're wondering if a single person on the forum ever watched any of has its own dedicated subforum here with individual threads for each episode :D https://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewforum.php?f...
by dragon boss z
Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:02 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Japanese Kai question
Replies: 12
Views: 1334

Re: Japanese Kai question

It isn't 10-20 episodes shorter but 8 episodes shorter. After a few episodes (I believe roughly around when they get to Babidi's ship; forgive me for not being 100% on the exact episode since it's been a while), the cuts are identical aside from the recap theme, OP, EDs (the Japanese Cut has five i...
by dragon boss z
Sat Nov 18, 2023 10:17 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Japanese Kai question
Replies: 12
Views: 1334

Re: Japanese Kai question

Legally? No. But the Japanese broadcast version of Kai with English subs was everywhere on third-party sites. We can't provide piracy links but you should be able to use Google and find it pretty easily I know I can find Kai, I’m wondering if I can find the Japanese cut of the Buu saga that was onl...
by dragon boss z
Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:48 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Japanese Kai question
Replies: 12
Views: 1334

Re: Japanese Kai question

Is there any place on the internet to find this version with English subtitles? Legally? No. But the Japanese broadcast version of Kai with English subs was everywhere on third-party sites. We can't provide piracy links but you should be able to use Google and find it pretty easily I know I can fin...
by dragon boss z
Sat Nov 18, 2023 8:38 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Japanese Kai question
Replies: 12
Views: 1334

Re: Japanese Kai question

I do remember seeing a video About the final chapters and skipping some great Sayainman saga episodes. Also for some reason all the countries besides japan got a fight it out and never give up Is that what you're talking about? Japan got a completely different cut of Kai for the Buu saga that was l...
by dragon boss z
Sat Nov 18, 2023 7:37 pm
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Japanese Kai question
Replies: 12
Views: 1334

Japanese Kai question

I know Japan had their own version of Kai that was cut down even more than the version the rest of the world got. Has anyone here watched it? Did the Japan version have the scenes of Frieza and the other villains in hell? Is there any place on the internet to find this version with English subtitles?
by dragon boss z
Sun Oct 02, 2022 6:01 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37492
Views: 3532882

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

The two Namekians together had Gohan on his toes. I think either one can solo the SSJBs. Golden Freeza might be a lot stronger than SSJBs given the Broly novelization says he could fight back a tiny bit. I think he’s definitely stronger than this Gohan. Even Ultimate Piccolo takes this. Ultimate Pi...
by dragon boss z
Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:52 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37492
Views: 3532882

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Black Frieza vs. Jiren Black Frieza already one shot two characters stronger than Jiren at the same time, and a third even stronger than those two. Moro was confirmed the strongest Goku faced. Goku surpassed him. Goku was weaker than Granolah. Ultra Ego Vegito surpassed Granolah. Goku caught up. Al...
by dragon boss z
Sun Oct 02, 2022 12:27 am
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Replies: 37492
Views: 3532882

Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

1. RoF SSB Goku and SSB Vegeta vs Saonel and Pirina (if the nameks win they face the U6 version of the saiyans with no Kaioken) 2. Golden Freeza (Broly) vs Ultimate Gohan (Super Hero) 3. Orange Piccolo vs SSB Vegetto (Black) 4. SSJ2 Future Trunks vs SSJ2 Caulifla 5. Ikari Broly vs Android 17 1. The...
by dragon boss z
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:45 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Can we consider Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo Jr the same person?
Replies: 208
Views: 25727

Re: Can we consider Piccolo Daimao and Piccolo Jr the same person?

He kept Daimao's memories, but he has a different personality. So basically it depends on if you think memories or personality are what make a person an individual.
by dragon boss z
Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988739

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

PFM18 wrote: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:35 am It more so proves Toyotaro is inconsistent, along with a litany of other examples.
Unless this came from Toriyama.
And Piccolo. But who is saying otherwise? Of course he is stronger than the bunch outside of those five characters.
No, not Piccolo.
by dragon boss z
Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:05 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988739

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The new chapter proves Buu isn't nearly as weak as some people claim he is compared to other Super characters, at least in the manga version. He's definitely above every Z fighter that isn't Goku, Vegeta, 17, and Gohan. Merus' speed seems higher than it should be, but he is propelled by technology a...
by dragon boss z
Wed Apr 03, 2019 2:59 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3988739

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

So, I was thinking recently. Zamasu is supposed to be the strongest among all Kaioshin, as plainly stated in the manga and implied in the anime. Some of the Kaioshin, namely some of Universe 7's that fought Moro and Pure Buu, were quite strong; even Shin, often laughed off as kinda weak, was only s...
by dragon boss z
Fri Mar 29, 2019 10:24 pm
Forum: In-Universe Discussion
Topic: Piccolo (fighting against #20)
Replies: 41
Views: 10019

Re: Piccolo (fighting against #20)

Piccolo destroyed Android 20 with ease, he didn't use his full power, so he was as strong as a super sayan at that point. Plus Android 17 needed during the Vegeta/ 18 fight, Android 17 needed only one bump to take down Super Sayan Truks, while he needed more bumps to take down Pccolo A17 one-shotte...