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- Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:24 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
I never said the whole of Super is going to be trash. Then the following statement was about nothing at all?: There were so many neat things they could have done from a storytelling perspective. This just throws Goku at blinding speed at the FIGHT THE ANGELS AND GRAND PRIEST, BECOME PAPI BLANCO AND...
- Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:45 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
But don't believe me if you don't want to. I believe you just fine. It doesn't change that the information was already out there at the time, or how bizarre and premature your about-face is. Which is the point. Not sure why you find it so bizarre. The circumstances have changed, and so has my opini...
- Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:53 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Uh... no. Actually. Maybe you're missing some things. I haven't 'missed' anything. Those translations were out with the scans even before you stated you'd give the chapter the benefit of the doubt, which you are now conspicuously not doing. So, you did a total about-face on the strength of informat...
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:02 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42704
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Hey, we got a new candidate for Moro's level 3 in FighterZ. That's cool. So this is how Vegeta becomes useful again, yeah? This is set up so he can use his new power and not have it be a total wash. Which still seems dumb to me? If he got the new power but then couldn't use it on Moro because Moro ...
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:21 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
I was willing to read the whole chapter before judging the senzu bean moment. And now you're not. Based on information that was already out there with the scans at the same time. Okay..? Uh... no. Actually. Maybe you're missing some things. Now we've got translation of the scans that give Goku's mo...
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:51 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
I was willing to read the whole chapter before judging the senzu bean moment. Goku giving Moro a senzu bean wasn't by itself awful writing. There were plenty of avenues that Toyo could have taken that, and as I argued, and many others have argued, it was well within Goku's character to give him a se...
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:40 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: I think its time to admit that Toyotaro is a terrible writer.
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Re: I think its time to admit that Toyotaro is a terrible writer.
I don't understand how we got to where we are now with this arc from where we started. Through Namek, the Moro arc was fresh, dynamic, and a really interesting revisit to Frieza arc vibes but with a completely different threat on our hands. With Moro on his way to Earth, and Goku and Vegeta going in...
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 5:31 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
I'm willing to see where Toyotaro goes with this. To echo what everyone's been saying about how this is like 20% of the full issue, or less, I'll go further and say that plenty of times, after reading the sample pages, I've either been surprised by where the manga issue did finally end up (for good...
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:34 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
After the Tournament of Power there were so many interesting directions they could have taken Dragon Ball, but this Moro arc has to be potentially the worst direction on the table. Just, full bore, immediately following the debut of Ultra Instinct, let's ramp right into mastering it instantly and th...
- Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:43 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42704
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
I am just numbed by this. I no longer care how this arc ends. I'm going to keep reading so that, in however many more months it takes to get there, I eventually know how it ends, but it just doesn't matter anymore. They're planning the next arc? Great. It's gonna be about fighting angels or Zalama o...
- Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
I was totally fine with the senzu if it led to something else besides Goku letting his guard down and getting his neck grabbed...which seems to have possibly happened. His body is meant to move on it's own now, it should be impossible to let his guard down while in the form. It not needing the conn...
- Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:19 am
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Maybe the twist is Goku goes to hakai Moro after Moro's inevitable betrayal, but Moro eats it and transforms into a godlike being?
I'm just trying to come up with something that doesn't make Goku AND Toyotaro both look like complete idiot trash.
I'm just trying to come up with something that doesn't make Goku AND Toyotaro both look like complete idiot trash.
- Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:13 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
I think it's pretty clear the Senzu Bean trick is just a teaser to catch our attention. There is something behind that all. Taking literal conclusions just based on one teaser is very preliminary and unneeded. And no, i don't mean innocent speculation here about 'what could happen', i mean saying i...
- Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:07 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Look, I can understand if Goku wants Moro to have a free choice. The logic doesn't break just because Goku doesn't heal him before Moro makes the promise. I mean, at the very minimum Goku could have gotten the promise out of Moro before giving him the senzu bean. He could even have demanded Moro tur...
- Tue Oct 13, 2020 9:43 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42704
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
So the current translation goes on to say that Goku offers Moro the senzu bean on the condition that Moro promise not to hurt anyone else and to willingly turn himself in, after Goku gives him the senzu bean . To which, of course, Moro goes, "oh, yes, of course, thank you Goku, yes, I promise....
- Tue Oct 13, 2020 8:10 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42704
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
So the current translation goes on to say that Goku offers Moro the senzu bean on the condition that Moro promise not to hurt anyone else and to willingly turn himself in, after Goku gives him the senzu bean . To which, of course, Moro goes, "oh, yes, of course, thank you Goku, yes, I promise....
- Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:57 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Ugh. I'm already eating my words. There's already a new translation summary, and it makes Goku look even stupider than before...
- Tue Oct 13, 2020 4:07 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42704
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Because no matter what happens Goku giving Moro the Senzu is still disappointing writing. There is nothing good that can come from it. And I say this whether Moro somehow escapes from Goku or Goku beats the hell out of him again. Neither option will make this development better for me. I think it's...
- Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:34 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42704
- Views: 5770945
Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
Because no matter what happens Goku giving Moro the Senzu is still disappointing writing. There is nothing good that can come from it. And I say this whether Moro somehow escapes from Goku or Goku beats the hell out of him again. Neither option will make this development better for me. I think it's...
- Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:24 pm
- Forum: Dragon Ball Super
- Topic: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
- Replies: 42704
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Re: "Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread
I think he's just healing him so he can show him how thoroughly outclassed he still is at full power. I think Goku wants it to really sink in that Moro can't do shit against him, and I think he's going to lecture him a bit, like he did with Freeza, and we'll see where it goes from there. I think Gok...