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Who are the 10 characters with a claim to being strongest? Aside from that Freeza is clearly the strongest, if you wanted to ignore that and be as liberal as possible you could say any of Goku, Vegeta, Granolah, Broly, or Gohan? Thats six. Who are the other four? 10 was just a random number I threw...

Who are the 10 characters with a claim to being strongest? Aside from that Freeza is clearly the strongest, if you wanted to ignore that and be as liberal as possible you could say any of Goku, Vegeta, Granolah, Broly, or Gohan? Thats six. Who are the other four? Jiren, maybe Hit and Toppo, and obv...

Who are the 10 characters with a claim to being strongest? Aside from that Freeza is clearly the strongest, if you wanted to ignore that and be as liberal as possible you could say any of Goku, Vegeta, Granolah, Broly, or Gohan? Thats six. Who are the other four? 1.Gohan Beast [Said so by Toriyama ...

How close was SSJBE Vegeta to Moro and UI Sign Goku, really? Before Spirit Fission kicked in Vegeta looked like a bit of challenge to Moro, that first punch was pretty intense. Something like SSJ Goku vs 100% Freeza, Moro would win swiftly but he’d have to use full power. Was Vegeta that strong or ...

Who are the 10 characters with a claim to being strongest? Aside from that Freeza is clearly the strongest, if you wanted to ignore that and be as liberal as possible you could say any of Goku, Vegeta, Granolah, Broly, or Gohan?

Thats six. Who are the other four?

Crazy to think how strong SSBE got. It went from barely giving Jiren pause, to making full power Granolah work for an entire issue to beat. All these angel and god tranformations and a simple super saiyan form was stronger than almost everything. Ultra Ego didnt even boost his power that much compar...

In the canon, there are no implications there is a LSS2 or LSS3 for mutant Saiyans like Broly in Kale and whenever there were forms like that it was anime only. That V Jump or Shonen Jump article that came out not too long ago said Broly only needed to learn to control his LSS form as it is already...

She's not a normal SSJ, she's a LSSJ/SSJ Berserker like Kale. Look at her hair: It's got the same green tint as Berserker Kale, instead of the yellow-ish green SSJ Kale has. I know but I don't know how to feel about LSS giving more power to a fusion than SSB since LSS Kefla > SSBKKx20 Goku. I guess...

Do you think Broly would be stronger than TUI/UE/Granolah if he hit SSJ2? Maybe even Black Freeza tier. As far as Freeza, even if that's true, that wouldn't stop his body from increasing its power during a fight if simple light sparring/training can do what its done for him. I get that manga doesn'...

For the DBS anime, the regular multiplier theory applies just fine. Kefla and her SS forms are pretty straightforward. Same for Vegito Blue, no previous forms to mess things up like in Broly, the DBS manga, or Z (Gotenks, and base Vegito, we looking at you). It seems some theories might not apply t...

Hypothetically, if Broly went SSJ2 while training on Beerus' planet with Goku and Vegeta, how strong do we think he'd get? Lets assume for the sake of argument that he is indeed capable of going SSJ2, and his SSJ level is similar or a little stronger than what he showed against Gogeta. If he could ...

Hypothetically, if Broly went SSJ2 while training on Beerus' planet with Goku and Vegeta, how strong do we think he'd get? Lets assume for the sake of argument that he is indeed capable of going SSJ2, and his SSJ level is similar or a little stronger than what he showed against Gogeta. Bonus Questio...

Historically, how much stronger does Black Freeza need to be than Goku and Vegeta to one shot them like that? I may be the odd man out in this what’s estimation. But I wouldn’t be surprised that he is five to ten times stronger than them. The reason why I think this was, he prob saw and remembered ...

Well, Vegeta one-shotted Cui when they were respectivelly 24k and 18k in power level. So it would seem a 25% difference would be enough most of times as per the show's standards. Do we account for that Vegeta killed Cui while Freeza just knocked the two out of their forms and incapacitated them? Wh...

Historically, how much stronger does Black Freeza need to be than Goku and Vegeta to one shot them like that? Well, Vegeta one-shotted Cui when they were respectivelly 24k and 18k in power level. So it would seem a 25% difference would be enough most of times as per the show's standards. Do we acco...

Historically, how much stronger does Black Freeza need to be than Goku and Vegeta to one shot them like that?

If the Gamma's (who all this is scaling from) were meant to be as strong as SSBE and KKx20, they would have annihilated Gohan in his ultimate form, let alone piccolo in his. As SSB was essentially the default form for both, I think the Gamma's were being scaled to those forms. It's also just cleaner...

That’s one of the possibilities, and the most likely to be what Toriyama planned. But that depends on whether or not Piccolo has seen Goku after Broly, which could go either way. The anime has a lot more room, and even though a lot of things there could be considered filler, I doubt they’ll do away...

I must've misunderstood your previous post, sorry. I meant Ultimate Piccolo will be placed below the current SSB Goku. But Orange Piccolo, hopefully -he might get nerfed, it happened before to other forms and characters- will be somewhere between current SSB and Sign. Tanking a SSB level character ...

re: all the talk around blue tier and how Gohan/Piccolo relate to it and Vegeta/Goku Are we accounting for the movie referencing ToP blue goku and vegeta, and both of their blue forms being much stronger than that at the present moment? Considering this, Piccolo could easily be above ToP Blue Goku ...