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by QuakingStar
Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:53 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

This isn't accurate. In Chapter 64 alone (arguably his most dominant display to date using Completed Ultra Instinct), Goku interchangeably dodges, blocks (one-handed, without even looking), or counterattacks Moro (to pre-empt his attacks and thus stop them), throughout. This does not appear to demo...
by QuakingStar
Sun Feb 18, 2024 6:02 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

We've seen it since it was introduced, and Goku's only ever blocked when he couldn't dodge or the ONE moment where he let Moro break his hand on his chest. This isn't accurate. In Chapter 64 alone (arguably his most dominant display to date using Completed Ultra Instinct), Goku interchangeably dodg...
by QuakingStar
Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

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Yeah on tiktok and instragam they were saying Orange and Beast are Blue to Blue KK level at best, and both Ultimate Piccolo and Ultimate Gohan are not even SSGod level. They have literally no factual evidence to back any of it up and are just simply Gohan and Piccolo haters. I was sooo enjoying watc...
by QuakingStar
Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:24 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Do my eyes deceive me? It's the start of the skirmish between Goku and Gohan, and people are writing Gohan off compared to Freeza? The guy whom Toriyama said is "actually" strongest and claimed or it is also said? Since all he has to do is get angry and sneeze and he explodes with more po...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 17, 2024 10:31 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Do my eyes deceive me? It's the start of the skirmish between Goku and Gohan, and people are writing Gohan off compared to Freeza? The guy whom Toriyama said is "actually" strongest and claimed or it is also said? Since all he has to do is get angry and sneeze and he explodes with more po...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:34 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That sounds very dumb, but I get it. Basically: Silver UI ~ Full power: 100 ~ Weakened: 50 UI Sign ~ Normally: 25 ~ True: 75 Seems like this would basically be it. Vegeta was having a similar problem with UE preventing him from tapping into its full power and said he needed to master it better so h...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 17, 2024 6:03 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

His use of UI in the Granolah arc being affected by his emotions made it slightly less effective than TUI in terms of fighting. TUI could go all out and not be effected negatively by emotions, and in fact could use Goku's anger to advantage. But in power and speed UI is still better overall. This is...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 17, 2024 2:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Beerus confirmed this chapter that MUI > TUI. Ha! there were people claiming "hehehehe Goku isn't even TUI this means he isn't taking Gohan seriously!" as if they forgot that TUI is just UI Sign but more suited to Goku AND weaker than UI lol Oh, and to add to this. "Gohan Beast is on...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 17, 2024 12:09 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

ZombieVito wrote: Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:08 pm Beerus confirmed this chapter that
Ha! there were people claiming "hehehehe Goku isn't even TUI this means he isn't taking Gohan seriously!" as if they forgot that TUI is just UI Sign but more suited to Goku AND weaker than UI lol
by QuakingStar
Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:47 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Silver UI is stronger than TUI. TUI though slightly weaker is more optimal for him as they explained in the Granolah Arc. This is also two years later, so Goku has likely mastered UI to the point he no longer needs to use TUI therefor he can use his true full power without worry.
by QuakingStar
Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I may be proven wrong over the next few months but I very much doubt we'll see Gohan one shotting Goku to place him at Freeza's level. He won't. Gohan isn't the MC, he MIGHT have more power than Goku but UI has auto-dodge and auto-attack for example, and Gohan not being the MC he will be surpassed ...
by QuakingStar
Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:26 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

But when did Broly got to near death? He was pummeled, but didn't seem very hurt, and Gogeta's last kamehameha never hit him. All other instances of "zenkais" happened after the saiyans body was left near death. Broly came close to dying, but not because of damage. Gogeta's kamehameha mig...
by QuakingStar
Wed Feb 14, 2024 6:54 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

I actually think there are reasons to believe Broly got stronger post movie due to his biology, but not to explain his current placement at the top. He never had any fights or experiences that might've secured him a zenkai, not until coming to Earth, in that regard, his body should be comparable to...
by QuakingStar
Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

In the Manga, Fused Zamasu being immortal was the issue. His power wasn't slightly less than Perfected Blue Goku's. There was also the fact he just made clones of himself too. Being an immortal only Zeno could erase him and only sealing him could actually defeat him and there were too many of him to...
by QuakingStar
Thu Feb 08, 2024 10:29 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It's not definitive how Zeno and Super Shenron compare until more is revealed about Zalama. For instance, if Toriyama asspulls that Zalama is the true ruler or whatever, then you could argue that Super Shenron's magic is comparable or superior to Zeno's. As it stands now, both Zeno and Super Shenro...
by QuakingStar
Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Currently (Don't know where exactly to put incomplete UI Beerus really) ---UE Beerus Tier--- UE Beerus ---Beerus Tier--- SSB Gogeta ~ SSB Vegito Beerus Black Frieza ~ LSS Broly ~ Beast Gohan ---TUI Goku Tier--- Cell MAX Zombie Gas TUI Goku ~ UE Vegeta ~ Orange Piccolo Granolah --- MUI Goku Tier--- ...
by QuakingStar
Wed Feb 07, 2024 12:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Cheelai asked what are they going to do about Black Freeza? Right now, Goku, Vegeta and Broly are not the answer to Freeza's Black form. As Goku said he is "something else." Beerus isn't threatened and let's Goku know that when he finally surpasses him that he'll make him God of Destructi...
by QuakingStar
Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:25 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Currently (Don't know where exactly to put incomplete UI Beerus really) ---UE Beerus Tier--- UE Beerus ---Beerus Tier--- SSB Gogeta ~ SSB Vegito Beerus Black Frieza ~ LSS Broly ~ Beast Gohan ---TUI Goku Tier--- Cell MAX Zombie Gas TUI Goku ~ UE Vegeta ~ Orange Piccolo Granolah --- MUI Goku Tier--- M...
by QuakingStar
Tue Feb 06, 2024 10:39 am
Forum: General Franchise Discussion
Topic: Non-thread-worthy discussions
Replies: 4647
Views: 610064

Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

I love how stern of a father Goku is in the Toei movies. Telling Gohan in the Bojack film to "stop being a pampered baby" and asking Goten and Gohan in the Broly movie "can't you protect the Earth if I'm not around?" He's not exactly a soft pushover of a father in Toriyama's Dra...
by QuakingStar
Mon Feb 05, 2024 1:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39983
Views: 3987985

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

It was 781 when Frieza did that, and it's 783 when Goku goes to Earth so it's been 2 years. Goku and Vegeta were on Earth 3 weeks prior to the beginning of the SH events. When were they on earth 3 years prior to SH movie? Edit: 3 weeks prior https://i.imgur.com/1u4DI0i.png Bulma saw Vegeta 3 weeks ...