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At this stage in the game I doubt they can nerf the characters enough to make it be as much of an adventure even with the deaging. At minimum, all they need to do to make it feel like an adventure is to make sure the action isn't taking place in just one location or just one type of location. IE- D...

I wonder why Toriyama had such a big soft spot for Shin.

And yet, in the Tournament of Power, Vegeta sacrifices himself for Goku, recognizing Goku as the only one who can defeat Jiren and "trenspass into the domain of the Gods". Yes, because Goku's upbringing and training leads him to be better attuned to achieve and master UI, Vegeta and other...

And yet, in the Tournament of Power, Vegeta sacrifices himself for Goku, recognizing Goku as the only one who can defeat Jiren and "trenspass into the domain of the Gods". Yes, because Goku's upbringing and training leads him to be better attuned to achieve and master UI, Vegeta and other...

Goku has been training his whole life and he's still weaker than Freeza. Both times they fought Goku only won because of a miracle (A legendary transformation nobody had seen in 1,000 years and then Freeza's own hubris). Hot take, but I actually think Goku isn't gifted and has average potential for...

I just can't see current SS3 Gotenks being anywhere near SSB tier when he couldn't even beat base Copy Vegeta a few years before. Even SSG tier feels like it's being way too generous. While in-universe it wouldn't really make sense, we have to come to terms with the fact that a vague general SSB ti...

How strong are we granting current SS3 Gotenks? Assuming he scales similarly to his Boo arc self, he shouldn't even reach God Goku yet. Are we willing to grant the kids some leeway and assume the fusion boost gets bigger as they become adults? Even assuming so, I'd still wager they're below current ...

We are meant to believe the Oracle Fish prophecies are absolute. Considering the original SSG prophecy is made before the timelines split, this means it was made in the Trunks and Cell timelines as well. If so, who does Beerus fight, or when? Beerus eventually ends up dying (at least in Trunks', no ...

I don't play DB Legends, but I'd imagine whoever writes the scenarios just makes him as strong as the other Saiyans in equivalent forms. Well that's exactly why I ask. "Blue" is a pretty broad tier ranging from the RF Blue to current Blue, and you can fit in a whole lot of characters in t...

How strong is Shallot right now? I'm aware he has access to Blue, but where does he fit in the DBS powerscale?

I think it was Toriyama's intention to keep Beerus atop the totem pole while Toei and Toyo have tried to leapfrog him given the chance. I wonder now what will happen, if Beerus will remain the perpetual moving goal post out of respect for Toriyama's vision, or if he will finally be surpassed in the ...

Super Boo (Vegetto absorbed, permanent fusion) has to go through the events of Super. He kills Shin, meaning no Beerus, but he still has to face Golden Freeza after 4 years, Goku Black/Zamasu a year later, Broly, Moro afterwards as well as Granolah/Gas. Which threats could he realistically handle? K...

Chapter 103 Broly compared to Broly (vs Blue Gogeta).....which one is supposed to be stronger? I was under the impression that Broly didn't access his "Beserk" level of strength vs Gohan, therefor he is still way stronger than what chapter 103 showed......or am I wrong? Agreed. That’s pre...

I just realized Goku is pretty adept at driving complex machinery. We see him drive a regular flying car no problem at all in the Cell arc. Of course later on he becomes a farmer and uses a tractor regularly. But he's also able to pilot the Ginyu pods (even if they had a predetermined destination, h...

In the manga, Black's Rosé seems to function as the equivalent of Blue, but in the anime, it seems like it's just his equivalent of Super Saiyan. You could have argued this already because his base form was already strong enough to contend with SS2 Goku and later even SSB Vegeta, but in Heroes we se...

Would it be possible to use the Mafuba to seal a villain into a different character?

SS2 Future Gohan (manga) vs Future 17
SS2 Future Gohan (anime) vs Future 17 and 18
SS2 Future Gohan (anime) vs Future Imperfect Cell

He was keeping up just fine and had the upper hand in Super Saiyan against them individually. Super Saiyan 2 would probably have been enough but ultimate seems more efficient. Depends on how strong you think SS Gohan is currently but at best, in the manga, current SS are as strong as Boo arc SS2s. ...

Who is the strongest character from Dragon Ball Z current manga SSJ1 Trunks and Goten can defeat together? Considering they were struggling with Cell Jrs., then Perfect Cell or equivalent characters should be the best they can hope for. According to this most recent arc Gohan felt the need to go Ul...

GatoF wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2024 1:26 pm Who is the strongest character from Dragon Ball Z current manga SSJ1 Trunks and Goten can defeat together?

Considering they were struggling with Cell Jrs., then Perfect Cell or equivalent characters should be the best they can hope for.