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by Kazuya Mishima
Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:17 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Either way, Whis said he didn't know anyone that was stronger than Goku or Vegeta and he knew Broly. So Broly should have been even weaker than Super Saiyan Blue Evolved Vegeta. In fact if you go purely by the manga and forget any outside comments the order should go... Cell Max ~ Planet Moro Ultra ...
by Kazuya Mishima
Wed Dec 20, 2023 9:00 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Black Frieza would obviously be stronger than Beast Gohan simply because he hasn't had his arc yet. From a narrative point of view it would make no sense for Beast Gohan to be superior to him. What I want to know is how Cell Max is meant to fit in with everyone. He's apparently strong enough that Go...
by Kazuya Mishima
Wed Dec 20, 2023 8:46 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Anyone else disappointed with the whole new cell max, gohan beast, orange piccolo etc
Replies: 23
Views: 5137

Re: Anyone else disappointed with the whole new cell max, gohan beast, orange piccolo etc

Then we have Cell max now.... da fk??? Why do they keep bringing back old villans? Its basically nothing new at this point, it was one thing with freeza but now they keep doing it with others aswell? Original dragonball had some iconic villans aswell, did they bring any of those back in dragon ball...
by Kazuya Mishima
Mon Dec 04, 2023 4:51 pm
Forum: Fan-Created Works
Topic: Death Battle Goku vs Superman again...again
Replies: 30
Views: 5714

Re: Death Battle Goku vs Superman again...again

Goku will always be Superman's lesser.
by Kazuya Mishima
Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:19 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Obviously Orange Piccolo is stronger than the Gammas but supposed to be on par with Goku while the Gammas are supposed to be on par with Goku and Vegeta. Orange Piccolo is on par with Goku and Co . So who is the Co? The only one on par with Goku in the manga is Vegeta at which point he could have j...
by Kazuya Mishima
Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:04 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

You are largely missing the point here. No. You've just said it. I already said that. I know Super Hero was set after and wrote before. I don't care. I'm going by the manga now. If it's inconsistent then its also wrong. Then the line means nothing and the Gamma's and therefore Ultimate Gohan are no...
by Kazuya Mishima
Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:12 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

This means the Gammas are still comparable to Goku and Vegeta, but you have to use logic to understand that if Orange Piccolo is on par with Goku according to Toriyama himself this would mean at their full powers in that case otherwise that statement doesn't make sense for Orange Piccolo. With the ...
by Kazuya Mishima
Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

They certainly mean something in the context they were written, that the Gammas would be about as strong as Goku and Vegeta from Broly film. It's not pick and choose when you know Super Saiyan Blue is Goku’s strongest freely accessible form in the DBS films. But I'm not talking about the films. I'm...
by Kazuya Mishima
Thu Nov 02, 2023 10:07 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Even if people wanna ignore Piccolo's comparison or the statement about the Gammas being the mightiest Andriods. We also have the official promotional material which literally states that they're the strongest Andriods and this again puts them above Andriod 17 who's SSB level like the Mightiest And...
by Kazuya Mishima
Thu Nov 02, 2023 9:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

The fact that SSB Goku got stronger than Ultimate Gohan in a couple of hours doesn’t suggest Gohan wasn’t in Super Saiyan Blue tier either, which is what we were discussing, right? Not particularly, I'm talking about where things stand currently for the most part. At best all we know is that in the...
by Kazuya Mishima
Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:01 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Seeing the comment section of the video, I can see where this notion comes from, but the description of the scene in the storyboard merely says “He changes into Super Saiyan Blue in one burst”. Well that's not happened anyway. There was no "one burst". It was a drawn out scene where they ...
by Kazuya Mishima
Mon Oct 30, 2023 10:51 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Nah, my comments and those other peoples comments were where common sense came in Even this sentence barely makes any sense lol. You seem very fixated on other people's opinions. Like I said you have that sheep/mob mentality as though you have no real opinion of your own. "X amount of people s...
by Kazuya Mishima
Mon Oct 30, 2023 7:41 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Ok, so you essentially admitted That you have absolutely nothing and all your so called evidence is completely useless yes. I have no head canon because I gave no head canon. You spouted a bunch of nonsense that you seem to believe is evidence and I explained why it was nonsense. You have nothing b...
by Kazuya Mishima
Mon Oct 30, 2023 12:01 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Ajay extensively talks about this matter and so far this remains an artistic choice. No offense to him but Ajay knows nothing. It was not an artistic choice to briefly show Goku with silver hair and silver eyes the very same year he debuted a highly popular new form with silver hair and silver eyes...
by Kazuya Mishima
Mon Oct 30, 2023 11:35 am
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Why the hell would they possibly be referring to Super Saiyan? Why would they be referring to some in the middle form like Super Saiyan Blue? Because apparently. The Gammas are on par with Goku and Vegeta.....just so long as you don't count them at their true level of strength...or the next form do...
by Kazuya Mishima
Sun Oct 29, 2023 7:56 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Nah you're the one who's given proof of nothing, and are the most worthless debater in this discussion here. See that you keep copying what I say and parroting it back to me....you're just proving my point. You also want to bring up STICKERS? An official licensed product. They know better than you....
by Kazuya Mishima
Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:33 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

[quote=QuakingStar post_id=1772514 time=1698589580 user_id=123912 So what you are telling me now is that Vegeta almost went Legendary Super Saiyan because his hair turned green for a second?[/quote] ....No. Grow up. while I and others have already given proof or good logic to it. YOU are the one tha...
by Kazuya Mishima
Sun Oct 29, 2023 3:28 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

That’s not Ultra Instinct, it’s just a side effect of the auras animation in the Super Saiyan transformations. For instance, Vegeta’s hair also was briefly green, but you don’t see people claiming he was using the berserker form, right? It was obviously Ultra Instinct. There was no "side effec...
by Kazuya Mishima
Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:49 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

he seems to have an anti-Gohan agenda. I think it might be best if we all ignore him. Grow up :lol: . No, it wasn’t Ultra Instinct. It was just Goku transitioning from Super Saiyan God to Super Saiyan Blue. The silver haired and silver eyed Goku shown briefly following its recent appearance in the ...
by Kazuya Mishima
Sat Oct 28, 2023 9:36 pm
Forum: Dragon Ball Super
Topic: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread
Replies: 39987
Views: 4001822

Re: Dragon Ball Super Strength Discussion Thread

Koitsukai wrote: Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:55 pmAm I on the radio... ??? you cannot be real, so please don't quote me ever again.
No. Answer the question, the silver haired Goku that was shown in Broly, was that Ultra Instinct or was it not?

It's a very simple question.